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Old 10-12-2017, 11:38 PM   #51
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Even if I had shot that buck 110% legal without any grey area at all, I wouldn't go around social media and posting it every where. Regardless of any circumstances.

It looks like the buck was gut shot, and was going to die eventually due to infection and not being able to process food properly. Now, smarter people than me will have to figure out the grey area of the law to determine if that was a follow up kill shot as allowed by law
I don't think he ever posted it. Now some "friends" who were asked to not share are the likely culprits with the pics
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:40 PM   #52
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Innocent or guilty, the man obviously doesn't want to incriminate himself.
Again go back to the speeding ticket example, saying "I wasn't speeding" won't hurt anything, whereas saying "I was doing 74 in a 70 but 4 mph over the limit." should be avoided. I'm 100% ok with anyone doing 74 in a 70, it's within the commonly used 10% rule.

Furthermore, nobody owes anything, but everyone needs to understand that the speculation will continue so long as nobody comes out with the story.



You quoted a post of me saying I don't blame them for not coming forth with their story, and then asked me if I think they owe us an explanation. lol
Don't blame them for not coming forth with the story, but yet wanting someone to come forth with the story. Is that about right?
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:41 PM   #53
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Or they are just honoring their friends request to say nothing...

So you think they owe us an explanation over honoring their friend’s request?
Exactly. I'd much rather my friends honor my requests than to satisfy the curiosity of folks on social media. But hey, "we got a right to know!" is the norm these days

And I'm dying to know...but unless the gentlemen decides to share his story, I'll be perfectly fine staying in the dark
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:45 PM   #54
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Bickering won't keep the thread alive.

We don't know what shape the deer was in when Travis finished it off. Unfortunately I don't know how you prove the deer was suffering or struggling.
I don't know how at least one lung wasn't hit.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:46 PM   #55
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Don't blame them for not coming forth with the story, but yet wanting someone to come forth with the story. Is that about right?
I guess. Also sorry I edited my post a bunch as I was trying not to make multiple posts, but this thread is moving too fast. Anyway, I don't expect we'll get any stories until a year or more and don't really care, but everyone is screaming to stop speculation so all I'm really saying is people are going to speculate until the story comes out, that's just the way it goes. So either stop complaining about the speculation or spill it. Pretty sure we can all already deduce what the most likely story scenario is so not really the need for multiple threads and hours going back and forth.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:48 PM   #56
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Innocent or guilty, the man obviously doesn't want to incriminate himself.
Again go back to the speeding ticket example, saying "I wasn't speeding" won't hurt anything, whereas saying "I was doing 74 in a 70 but 4 mph over the limit." should be avoided. I'm 100% ok with anyone doing 74 in a 70, it's within the commonly used 10% rule.

Furthermore, nobody owes anything, but everyone needs to understand that the speculation will continue so long as nobody comes out with the story.



You quoted a post of me saying I don't blame them for not coming forth with their story, and then asked me if I think they owe us an explanation. lol

...and yes I'm positive it's a gray area otherwise one of you 20 buddies of his would simply say "yeah he shot it the 2nd time at 4pm broad daylight" and all these stupid threads could end.
1) please post a link to this “10% rule” as I’ve never seen it in Texas Law.
2) There you go assuming again; this time 100% wrong - I have zero association with Travis nor any of his friends...
3) if you were online earlier today, you’d know I’ve was pushing those claiming to have the info/facts to post it...
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:50 PM   #57
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Hey it might not be in the penal code but dammit the 10% rule is standard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In this context I'm equating it to 3 mins after legal shooting time blah blah that was getting thrown out in the other thread. Obviously you can't post that info if you're under investigation that would be dumb. But I'm also saying I'm 100% ok with that so wouldn't fault the guy either way.

I think I meant "one of the 20 buddies" not "one of you 20 buddies" but either way doesn't really matter.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:51 PM   #58
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Bickering won't keep the thread alive.
Agreed.
I got one wacked earlier today, thus my apologies...
Spoke via PM with Cooldad1 like we should have done in the 1st place..
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:53 PM   #59
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Who's bickering, we're simply having a discussion. We don't need to keep a thread alive anyway, there's already a couple and probably 1 or 2 more popping up every day for a while LOL
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Did anyone say if he was in a treestand, tower blind, pit blind or ground blind on the first encounter?
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:55 PM   #61
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Who's bickering, we're simply having a discussion. We don't need to keep a thread alive anyway, there's already a couple and probably 1 or 2 more popping up every day for a while LOL
You new here?!!

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Old 10-13-2017, 12:00 AM   #62
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Hey it might not be in the penal code but dammit the 10% rule is standard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In this context I'm equating it to 3 mins after legal shooting time blah blah that was getting thrown out in the other thread. Obviously you can't post that info if you're under investigation that would be dumb. But I'm also saying I'm 100% ok with that so wouldn't fault the guy either way.

I think I meant "one of the 20 buddies" not "one of you 20 buddies" but either way doesn't really matter.
Let's play a game here.
You are in a bass tournament.
You are leading.
Competitor comes in 2 minutes late, and officials use your 10% rule.
Competitor wins boat and truck + cash.
Are you OK with this?
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:02 AM   #63
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Let's play a game here.
You are in a bass tournament.
You are leading.
Competitor comes in 2 minutes late, and officials use your 10% rule.
Competitor wins boat and truck + cash.
Are you OK with this?
Depends if I'm the one coming in 2 mins late or not.

So you saying hang this Travis guy because he shot a deer 3 minutes after shooting time? I thought yall were on his side!
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:10 AM   #64
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Post padding man!!! Post padding!!!
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Yeah. Don't want to lose these valuable posts....
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:11 AM   #65
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Depends if I'm the one coming in 2 mins late or not.

So you saying hang this Travis guy because he shot a deer 3 minutes after shooting time? I thought yall were on his side!
I'm on the legal, letter of the law side myself.
I don't think 3 minutes is the issue.
Legal shooting time is legal shooting time.
Weigh In time is weigh in time.
At what point do we determine "past legal", or "past weigh in" time.?
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:19 AM   #66
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I mean I can't argue with you on the letter of the law, and I paid my speeding ticket of 83 in an 80 without complaining. You have to draw the line somewhere. But 3 mins after wouldn't be anywhere near as egregious of an offence, in my mind, as camping out waiting for that deer at midnight or shooting it across a fence on someone else's property or whatever other options there are that we could speculate about.
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:21 AM   #67
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I mean I can't argue with you on the letter of the law, and I paid my speeding ticket of 83 in an 80 without complaining. You have to draw the line somewhere. But 3 mins after wouldn't be anywhere near as egregious of an offence, in my mind, as camping out waiting for that deer at midnight or shooting it across a fence on someone else's property or whatever other options there are that we could speculate about.
I like the man but the law is the law if there is evidence or admission of guilt.

Personally a warden wouldn't have got me to admit it if I shot that deer after legal light even if it was with a hawg lite at midnight but Travis is likely better man than myself
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:27 AM   #68
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I mean I can't argue with you on the letter of the law, and I paid my speeding ticket of 83 in an 80 without complaining. You have to draw the line somewhere. But 3 mins after wouldn't be anywhere near as egregious of an offence, in my mind, as camping out waiting for that deer at midnight or shooting it across a fence on someone else's property or whatever other options there are that we could speculate about.
I get it.
A small circumvention of the law is acceptable, to an extent.
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:39 AM   #69
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give the man his deer mr green jeans!
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:48 AM   #70
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Yeah I'm waiting to hear how the warden has any kind of proof that he shot the deer with a bow after legal hours...

Unless:
1) the warden was posted up and watching him hunt

2) someone else witnessed the shot and ratted on him

3) the game warden asked Travis and he openly admitted to it.

It's not like a rifle where they can hear it a mile away.

Not saying he should've lied or that it's ok. I'm just curious as to what kind of proof they have of any violation.

I also realize that I will never know the answer to this question...


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Old 10-13-2017, 12:49 AM   #71
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Not looking good for Travis. Still a lot of questions though. Why on Earth would he would he shoot after legal hours unless the buck was in such a state it could not move and if that was the case then why not wait until the next morning? No way the GW would let a violation slide on a buck of that caliber. Plus the restitution for that buck will be 10-20K.
ooI have sources that say 55k 🤓
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:04 AM   #72
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Yeah I'm waiting to hear how the warden has any kind of proof that he shot the deer with a bow after legal hours...

Unless:
1) the warden was posted up and watching him hunt

2) someone else witnessed the shot and ratted on him

3) the game warden asked Travis and he openly admitted to it.

It's not like a rifle where they can hear it a mile away.

Not saying he should've lied or that it's ok. I'm just curious as to what kind of proof they have of any violation.

I also realize that I will never know the answer to this question...
lol yeah to the bold, however we may read about it in the Game Warden Field Notes they publish in a year or two. They must have something at least circumstantial if they are building a case and preserving evidence. I hope that hide doesn't freezer burn while they're taking their sweet time. :/
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:04 AM   #73
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Yeah I'm waiting to hear how the warden has any kind of proof that he shot the deer with a bow after legal hours...

Unless:
1) the warden was posted up and watching him hunt

2) someone else witnessed the shot and ratted on him

3) the game warden asked Travis and he openly admitted to it.

It's not like a rifle where they can hear it a mile away.

Not saying he should've lied or that it's ok. I'm just curious as to what kind of proof they have of any violation.

I also realize that I will never know the answer to this question...


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#3 - confessed as he is a honest man.
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Old 10-13-2017, 02:34 AM   #74
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#3 - confessed as he is a honest man.
That's what I would go with. People can speculate, but I guarantee Travis told the truth.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:56 AM   #75
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no wonder cops always ask questions that will only incriminate honest men.

true lying outlaws have no problem.
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Old 10-13-2017, 04:06 AM   #76
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Man the guy hasn't even been to court yet and it's still being investigated. Put ur spoon up for now!


Slow your roll there bud.

I want it to be 100% legal for the sake of Travis and this once in a lifetime buck.


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Old 10-13-2017, 04:43 AM   #77
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I like the man but the law is the law if there is evidence or admission of guilt.

Personally a warden wouldn't have got me to admit it if I shot that deer after legal light even if it was with a hawg lite at midnight but Travis is likely better man than myself
Me too, shot it last min. of legal shooting hours!! But good for him for telling the truth. Don’t think I could have done it. Would probably have lost sleep over it till I see that monster hanging on the wall, then it’s all worth it lol
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:01 AM   #78
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I feel for the guy, but if this is the case he needs the full brunt of the law to come bearing down. I don't think we we are talking about someone that did not know the difference between right and wrong.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:20 AM   #79
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The irony is that if someone who knows the story other than Travis (legally needs to protect himself) would tell the story of how the hunt went down then all the speculation would subside and we could have a discussion about it.


Man, that is who I thought it was. He is a great guy. I am sure there is more to the story then what is being told.


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Old 10-13-2017, 05:26 AM   #80
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I am just going to wait to see how this unfolds on the first episode of "Lone Star Law" this coming season.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:29 AM   #81
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Curious how all this is going to shake out.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:31 AM   #82
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I have a general hunting question.

If I shoot a deer during legal shooting hours, but wait until after legal shooting hours to track him and them find him still alive, can I shoot or stab him to finish him off?
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:32 AM   #83
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I'm just saying the hunter doesn't owe us any comment, and would really be foolish to do so. His lack of comment is not an indication of guilt whatsoever.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:37 AM   #84
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That's what I would go with. People can speculate, but I guarantee Travis told the truth.
Well, you know them wardens will use the truth against you, if they can pin something on a hunter. Some of the things they do should be illegal.

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Old 10-13-2017, 05:42 AM   #85
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#3 - confessed as he is a honest man.


I would consider myself a quite honest person but that's nuts imho.


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I think a lot is missing the other point to the story of possible trespassing. That in its self is bad enough if proved in the wrong. Then add the mystery of when the second shot was taken..
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I'm just saying the hunter doesn't owe us any comment, and would really be foolish to do so. His lack of comment is not an indication of guilt whatsoever.


I agree, I would never ask Travis to comment publicly about it. Travis is a stand up guy in my books.


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Old 10-13-2017, 05:47 AM   #88
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I have a general hunting question.

If I shoot a deer during legal shooting hours, but wait until after legal shooting hours to track him and them find him still alive, can I shoot or stab him to finish him off?
I would say if the animal would survive, leave it be. If the animal is down and suffering, I would risk it to put the animal out of its misery.
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Because big bucks make people do stupid and crazy things, even good Christian men blah blah blah.
edit: I'm not casting stones, if I saw that buck I'd probably shoot him in the dark too, plant claymores, land mines, rifle in bow season, anything to put him on the ground.
Admitting you would poach any buck that’s big enough. Nice post
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Well, you know them wardens will use the truth against you, if they can pin something on a hunter. Some of the things they do should be illegal.
A Louisiana boy who does not like game wardens. Why am I not surprised
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If Travis goes to trial, hopefully the jury will be full of tree huggers and PETA supporters instead of some of the folks on this site. He'd have a better chance of winning.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:23 AM   #93
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Admitting you would poach any buck that’s big enough. Nice post
Think he was being facetious.
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How has this thread missed the MODS? They shot down the other 5 or 6. They must be reloading
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It's all over the book of faces now.
Doesn't do any of us that don't have FB any good. This thread, on a HUNTING FORUM, that is discussing the HUNTING and killing of a a state record deer keeps getting whacked. Doesn't make any sense to me.
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Doesn't do any of us that don't have FB any good. This thread, on a HUNTING FORUM, that is discussing the HUNTING and killing of a a state record deer keeps getting whacked. Doesn't make any sense to me.
Hi Pullersboy Thought you might of got in trouble yesterday for opening 2 threads.
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I like the man but the law is the law if there is evidence or admission of guilt.

Personally a warden wouldn't have got me to admit it if I shot that deer after legal light even if it was with a hawg lite at midnight but Travis is likely better man than myself

This right here.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:49 AM   #99
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I like the man but the law is the law if there is evidence or admission of guilt.

Personally a warden wouldn't have got me to admit it if I shot that deer after legal light even if it was with a hawg lite at midnight but Travis is likely better man than myself
No doubt Bobby. The term Loose lips, sink ships comes to mind.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:51 AM   #100
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I'm just saying the hunter doesn't owe us any comment, and would really be foolish to do so. His lack of comment is not an indication of guilt whatsoever.
Thank You Sir!!!!
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