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Old 08-09-2018, 08:10 PM   #1
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Default Why do "older" cell phones not get good service?

At first I thought it was just the location but after a couple of years there is zero doubt that new cell phones (iphones mainly) get a lot better reception.

Does Apple make older phones somehow get weak service? My wife, daughter, and now nephew all got new iphones and now all have 3 bars LTE. All the older phones barely get anything

Seems to be the same with my brothers Samsung. He had great reception for the first year but it's gone downhill and now sucks.

Any clue what the deal is?
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:15 PM   #2
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Built in "hook" to get you to buy newer phones...
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:19 PM   #3
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess it may have something to to with advancements in technology?

Check into it. I think it should be pretty obvious.

As far as your brothers phone maybe he got a dud?
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:23 PM   #4
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Thatís then slowly phasing you out so you have to buy a new one.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:24 PM   #5
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Built in obsolescence and intentional slowing of phones through updates.

There’s a civil suit against Apple right now for that exact thing
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:26 PM   #6
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I have an old samsung s5 that still get good signal.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:40 PM   #7
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Built in obsolescence and intentional slowing of phones through updates.

Thereís a civil suit against Apple right now for that exact thing
Yep, I think they all do it.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:42 PM   #8
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Yup, my note 5 isn't near what it once was but I'm not planning to upgrade until it poops out.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:50 PM   #9
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I agree with the planned obsolescense. I have an IPhone 6S and the last 6 months or so the battery won't stay charged for barely 1 day, it use to last almost a week when I first got it 3 years ago.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:54 PM   #10
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My next phone will be a flip phone if I can still find one. I'm tired of these confounded things. I'm going to simplify.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:00 PM   #11
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Dealing with his now. My iPhone 7 is rediculously slow now.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:03 PM   #12
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I haven't paid too much attention to it. But as best I can tell the lawsuit against apple is concerning a firmware update they pushed to older hardware, that decreased the output capacity of the battery. This was a "feature" touted to increase battery life in older devices without a replaceable battery.

However, as a result you ended up with devices that didn't perform as well as they did before. I don't know the actual battery specs on an iphone but the difference between 4.5 Amps and 4.1 Amps could mean a LOT in reference to hardware ability. Not only will you have weaker cell and wifi connections the processor and ram can slow down as well.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:24 PM   #13
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Mostly because customers demand more data than voice services, modulation techniques and broadband utilization have to be changed. Older phones simply do not have the processing power to handle it all, and with the processor eating up all the available power from the battery, the receiver cannot pick up the signals nearly as well.

It's a whole big deal.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:29 PM   #14
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Part of the same coincidence that my phone slows down and drains battery when there's a new update i dont want and avoid downloading. When it finally does it on its own everything works fine. Yeah, they're totally wrecking stuff to force new stuff on you

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Old 08-09-2018, 09:36 PM   #15
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I was a smart phone holdout. Had broken numerous flip phones due to the nature of ranch work. Operating all kinds of heavy equipment as well as tractors. Being around herds of cattle daily and sometimes getting stepped on or knocked down. A smart phone can be damaged too easily. Well, people needing to get ahold of me were sending texts and I wasnít getting them. Finally had to get a smart phone when the girlfriend was sending texts and thought I was lying when I told her they stopped coming through. Never thought Iíd give in to buying one, but a gorgeous blonde gal can have amazing powers of influence on a guy.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:54 PM   #16
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I was a smart phone holdout. Had broken numerous flip phones due to the nature of ranch work. Operating all kinds of heavy equipment as well as tractors. Being around herds of cattle daily and sometimes getting stepped on or knocked down. A smart phone can be damaged too easily. Well, people needing to get ahold of me were sending texts and I wasnít getting them. Finally had to get a smart phone when the girlfriend was sending texts and thought I was lying when I told her they stopped coming through. Never thought Iíd give in to buying one, but a gorgeous blonde gal can have amazing powers of influence on a guy.
There's always these

https://www.catphones.com/en_us
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:18 PM   #17
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I was a smart phone holdout. Had broken numerous flip phones due to the nature of ranch work. Operating all kinds of heavy equipment as well as tractors. Being around herds of cattle daily and sometimes getting stepped on or knocked down. A smart phone can be damaged too easily. Well, people needing to get ahold of me were sending texts and I wasnít getting them. Finally had to get a smart phone when the girlfriend was sending texts and thought I was lying when I told her they stopped coming through. Never thought Iíd give in to buying one, but a gorgeous blonde gal can have amazing powers of influence on a guy.


Especially if there is pictures involved... lol


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Old 08-09-2018, 10:32 PM   #18
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Finally had to get a smart phone when the girlfriend was sending texts and thought I was lying when I told her they stopped coming through. Never thought Iíd give in to buying one, but a gorgeous blonde gal can have amazing powers of influence on a guy.
This is the only reason for getting a smart phone.

I hate phones with a passion but somehow I am carrying both a smart and a flip phone everywhere.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:00 PM   #19
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apple has admitted to doing this. they remove phone capacity [or whatever tech term is proper]. yes apple literally does this to their customers to drive new product sales.
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:59 AM   #20
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Built in obsolescence and intentional slowing of phones through updates.
Thereís a civil suit against Apple right now for that exact thing
I saw this suit but don't see how it affects reception.

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Mostly because customers demand more data than voice services, modulation techniques and broadband utilization have to be changed. Older phones simply do not have the processing power to handle it all, and with the processor eating up all the available power from the battery, the receiver cannot pick up the signals nearly as well.

It's a whole big deal.
This may make sense as to why it reduces reception.

So should I be able to delete most programs and aps off my phone to reduce strain on processor?

Or does Apple make the software run loops that just jams everything up?
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:15 AM   #21
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My LG slide phone gets better reception here in the machine shop than all the smart phones do. I've never had a problem with it.
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:59 AM   #22
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I have an old samsung s5 that still get good signal.
Mine is(5 active) and it works great...signal no problem
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:12 AM   #23
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Built in obsolescence and intentional slowing of phones through updates.

Thereís a civil suit against Apple right now for that exact thing
Itís my understanding part of the settlement was to replace the batteries at an Apple location on the iPhones for $29.95.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:18 AM   #24
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Mostly because customers demand more data than voice services, modulation techniques and broadband utilization have to be changed. Older phones simply do not have the processing power to handle it all, and with the processor eating up all the available power from the battery, the receiver cannot pick up the signals nearly as well.

It's a whole big deal.
Best answer so far.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:21 AM   #25
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I saw this suit but don't see how it affects reception.



This may make sense as to why it reduces reception.

So should I be able to delete most programs and aps off my phone to reduce strain on processor?

Or does Apple make the software run loops that just jams everything up?
I doubt it is your on board apps more likely attributed to the operating system architecture changing for the new network technology.
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:12 AM   #26
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Wanna know the difference in a fast Tesla and a Ultra-fast Tesla?
a checkbox.

technology is easy to manipulate into obsoletion.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:53 AM   #27
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I wish mine didn't work so good!!!
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