Can Trump win in blue states?

[Bayouboy]

So in your mind it is a win if you elect someone with an (R) after his/her name who will support and vote for everything that democrats support and vote for instead of having a democrat in office who will vote the same way.

The rest of us actually understand that a surrender is no different than a loss. You might lose if you stand and fight, but you will NEVER win by surrendering.

How do you know he would do that? He has not held the office yet? Do you have some crystal ball that proves he will. Assuming he will is not proof. I am willing to give Trump a shot if that is what it takes to keep a Clinton out of office. Did you vote for the Bush's? He certainly could not put us in a bigger hole than they did.

[txjustin]

Trump will pull Bernie votes towards the republican side. And, win more blue states than people realize. Especially if he puts the right VP running mate in place.

You must have fallen and hit your head. Bernie voters may not vote for Hillary, but they won't be voting for Trump. (Sure, there are outliers, but I'm talking the majority)

[Shane]

How do you know he would do that? He has not held the office yet? Do you have some crystal ball that proves he will. Assuming he will is not proof. I am willing to give Trump a shot if that is what it takes to keep a Clinton out of office. Did you vote for the Bush's? He certainly could not put us in a bigger hole than they did.

I'm not talking about Trump. I'm talking about your repeated suggestions that conservatives vote for candidates who support liberal ideology in order to get a Republican "win" in an election. Voting for a candidate that supports things you are opposed to isn't a win though. Most people are interested in a lot more than simply the chance to claim they voted for the guy that won. We'll continue to vote for candidates who support the same things that we support. We'll win some, and we'll lose some. But we're not going to vote for liberals just so we can say we "won".

[longhorn_cop]

So democrats/hillary hate trump.
The establishment republicans and cruz hate trump.
Good.
Well you know who doesnt hate trump? Real voters. Look at the results.
Spin it anyway you want. Trumps gotten more votes this cycle than romney got last republican pres. race. Everyone said he wouldnt last. He has. Cruz keeps saying for other candidates to quit and hed beat trump. Its just not happening.
Republicans voter are making a loud statement. But im sure the GOP establishment will not listen and elect who they want anyway. Same ol candidate. Same ol result


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[Bayouboy]

I understand more of what you are saying now. I can't really say that many if any republicans truly have strong conservative intensions. Of course most say they do. But, that is because they have to so that so they can get elected. Once in office they dance to a totally different tune. No one party nor candidate will fulfill my beliefs. Just isn't possible. But, if someone can at least start the process of keeping jobs in America, stop Obama care, protect our constitution, and strengthening our military I will give them a shot. I have absolutely zero faith Cruz can work well with others nor create and keep jobs. He knows politics better than Trump. But, Trump knows what it takes to create jobs. Without more jobs in this country people will continue to struggle, the tax base will shrink, and our economy will remain on life support. Sure, Trump says some outlandish things at times. But, no president does anything on their own. It is all about the team they surround themselves with. I have a feeling he will do his best to surround himself with highly skilled and knowledgeable people.

[txjustin]

So democrats/hillary hate trump.
The establishment republicans and cruz hate trump.
Good.
Well you know who doesnt hate trump? Real voters. Look at the results.
Spin it anyway you want. Trumps gotten more votes this cycle than romney got last republican pres. race. Everyone said he wouldnt last. He has. Cruz keeps saying for other candidates to quit and hed beat trump. Its just not happening.
Republicans voter are making a loud statement. But im sure the GOP establishment will not listen and elect who they want anyway. Same ol candidate. Same ol result


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What are "real voters"? I'm neither Democrat nor an establishment GOP. I lean Libertarian (very fiscally conservative and socially state's rights). I'm not voting for Trump. IN summation, you are painting with a broad brush...

[txjustin]

I understand more of what you are saying now. I can't really say that many if any republicans truly have strong conservative intensions. Of course most say they do. But, that is because they have to so that so they can get elected. Once in office they dance to a totally different tune. No one party nor candidate will fulfill my beliefs. Just isn't possible. But, if someone can at least start the process of keeping jobs in America, stop Obama care, protect our constitution, and strengthening our military I will give them a shot. I have absolutely zero faith Cruz can work well with others nor create and keep jobs. He knows politics better than Trump. But, Trump knows what it takes to create jobs. Without more jobs in this country people will continue to struggle, the tax base will shrink, and our economy will remain on life support. Sure, Trump says some outlandish things at times. But, no president does anything on their own. It is all about the team they surround themselves with. I have a feeling he will do his best to surround himself with highly skilled and knowledgeable people.

The government doesn't create jobs, it either gets out of the way or gets in the way.

[Shane]

The government doesn't create jobs, it either gets out of the way or gets in the way.

I was about to make the same statement. Trump has never created a single job through government. He hired people in his businesses. No president ever creates jobs. Government (mostly Congress, actually - not the president) can create an environment where business can thrive, and then the private sector can create jobs. But government doesn't create jobs. The more money the government soaks up from the economy through taxes and waste, the less the economy can grow.

[txjustin]

I was about to make the same statement. Trump has never created a single job through government. He hired people in his businesses. No president ever creates jobs. Government (mostly Congress, actually - not the president) can create an environment where business can thrive, and then the private sector can create jobs. But government doesn't create jobs. The more money the government soaks up from the economy through taxes and waste, the less the economy can grow.

Spot on

[jerp]

When Anderson Cooper recently asked Trump what the main functions of government are he said security, healthcare and education - he then threw in something about housing. Well I guess you could say that one out of four isn't bad, but education, housing and healthcare? The only people I have heard rank those in the top three are socialists and well-intentioned but ignorant 8th graders. He has zero idea what the constitution is all about, and worse he doesn't care.

[Shane]

Yep. It's as plain as the nose on your face, but somehow he has loads of people convinced otherwise. I've never seen anything like it. It would be amazingly interesting if it weren't so dadgum sad and disappointing.

[Ironman]

Yep. It's as plain as the nose on your face, but somehow he has loads of people convinced otherwise. I've never seen anything like it. It would be amazingly interesting if it weren't so dadgum sad and disappointing.

I have. In 2008 and 2012.

[Bayouboy]

The government doesn't create jobs, it either gets out of the way or gets in the way.

Wanna bet?

[JGreen31]

The government doesn't create jobs, it either gets out of the way or gets in the way.

That is a very incorrect statement.

[txfireguy2003]

Now, a bunch of people are going to take this wrong, so I'll start by making this disclaimer:

I am not comparing any of the current candidates, nor the current POTUS to this man. I am merely making an observation.

The last several elections, sadly all of the ones I can remember actually, have been won with charisma instead of platforms and positions. The general election has transitioned from a contest of intelligence, policy, and meaningful experience, to a pure popularity contest. You cannot win without charisma.

But charisma is likely the worst indicator of good leadership. If one needs an example of that, he only needs to look at history, to WWII Germany. Adolph Hitler was an extremely charismatic figure. He was able to get people to support and cheer for him who didn't even speak or understand German!

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