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Old 10-17-2017, 07:45 AM   #51
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Glad everyone has posted here, and OP thanks for the quesiotn. I have a Browning .223 that I took a few deer with as a kid, and my wife has been talking about shooting it this season. We have seen a couple good bucks, and I am considering letting her carry the .223
I bow hunt almost exclusively all season now. Can Someone explain the high shoulder shot that has been mentioned a few times? Only shots I ever did was neck up close to the head, or armpit for heart.


Aim for the shoulder it'll break the shoulder little higher and in front of arm pit and hit the heart every single time. It ruins a lot of meat though so don't be surprised


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Old 10-17-2017, 08:03 AM   #52
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looks like buffalo bore makes some hot and heavy rounds too

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...duct_list&c=41

I wouldn't shoot anything except varmints with those hollow points. They'll probably just explode and leave you with a wounded deer.

I kill axis deer all the time with a .223 using Winchester 64 gr. Power Points. Depending on where I hit them, they haven't run more than 30 yards. Killed a couple of sheep and pigs at the lease as well. Longest shot was 182 yards. DRT
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:15 AM   #53
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You will be disappointed after using your 3006. As stated no exit wound s mean no blood trail and not near the knock down of the 3006. Depends on where you shoot them. Folks I hunt with in south Texas have gone up in caliber...3006,2506,270,300 to gain pass thru and blood trails,not eliminate them.
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:30 AM   #54
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62gr Fusion, 62gr Speer Gold Dot, 60gr Nosler Partition, 64 gr Win Power Point, 64gr Nosler Bonded....all work well. One thing to consider is some some folks end up shooting them out of short barreled AR's and they don't have the velocity as a bolt gun with a longer barrel. I used to load the Nosler Partition for the kids when they were younger but the Fusion does just as well and they are so cheap I can't justify the time and they have all moved up in caliber now.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:23 AM   #55
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I have shot half a dozen using either the CEB 45 Raptor or the old discontinued Nosler 60 grain solid base. My daughter has shot several more using that old Nosler 60 as well. We are out of those now though, so for this season I have swapped her over to the 64 Nosler Bonded. There are quite a few good bullets out there though. 62 Fusion, 60 Partition, 64 Winchester are all loaded in factory ammo. The Sierra #1365, 55 SBT is a good bullet as well for a slower twist. Plus add in the Barnes too. And several others.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:31 AM   #56
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64 gr Winchester Power Points work well for me. I usually shoot a doe or 2 every year with one. Full pass throughs every time at around 100 yards. They usually run, but not far.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:57 AM   #57
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223 with Hornady TAP

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Old 10-17-2017, 11:04 AM   #58
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]It will do the trick. Problem is the shot placement is a must.[/B] Smaller bullet less blood/vitals damage. If you have hogs its a great gun for them!!
This but when the shot isn't good it makes for a tough recovery. I experienced this when my bro gut shot one with a .223. Luckily we recovered the animal and it was edible.
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:15 AM   #59
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The problems I have seen with a 223 is usually the shooter. As has been stated many times above, with good placement it is effective.
I help with a youth hunt every year and we have banned anything under a 243. Most of these kids are not experienced and we got tired of chasing deer and in many instances losing deer.

All were shot with a 223 and shot placement was not good. A bigger caliber can make up for a poor shot. Unless I know for a fact that the shooter can put the bullet where intended, I will not allow the use of a 223 on deer.
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:17 AM   #60
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I have shot a few with a 223. I use the heavies bullet I can find that is accurate in my rifle.
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:25 AM   #61
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dropped a doe in her tracks with 64Gr SP
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Old 10-17-2017, 01:19 PM   #62
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My daughters shot this doe behind the shoulder and she dropped in her tracks.

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Old 10-17-2017, 02:13 PM   #63
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I used to kill at least 30 a year with a .223 when doing management work. Shot placement is everything and the upper neck was my target.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:10 PM   #64
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Was it just one box? I've shot two boxes at hogs and other varmints over the summer, testing them for my daughter to shoot a deer with and never had a problem. Most bullets exited even large boar.
Well yeah, I'm no dummy, I'm not spending more money on a bullet that doesent bang.

There is an entire thread on it, wasn't just me or my 1 box

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...ican+whitetail
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:14 PM   #65
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All my kids have killed with a .223

I've shot lots of hogs with my AR-15 in .223
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:27 PM   #66
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If you can get some 60gr NP loaded up pretty hot you've got some good deer medicine there. And you'll get an exit hole I promise.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:42 PM   #67
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I have taken a couple of does and some hogs with a Rem 700 223 with a 16.5in barrel. Reloaded using 25.7 varget with 55 VMax.

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Old 10-17-2017, 05:42 PM   #68
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Yep. My daughter has killed plenty along with a bunch of pigs.

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Whatíre you shooting out of that thing bullet wise? Just bought my brothers AR for my girlfriend to reach out on some hogs with and I want to swipe a few doe with it.



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Old 10-17-2017, 05:45 PM   #69
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Well yeah, I'm no dummy, I'm not spending more money on a bullet that doesent bang.

There is an entire thread on it, wasn't just me or my 1 box

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...ican+whitetail
Easy player, ain't calling no one a dummy. I was thinking if you stocked up on heavier hunting .223 bullets during certain "times", maybe you might have had a certain amount of those boxes and tried another box to see if you got a bad batch. I try to buy ammo with batch #'s listed for the very trouble you're having. Unfortunately, the hornady whitetail doesn't have a batch # that I've found.
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Old 10-17-2017, 05:48 PM   #70
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Shot 14 Doe and a 6 yr old full buck this past weekend with one. Recovered all of them.
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:40 PM   #71
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Whatíre you shooting out of that thing bullet wise? Just bought my brothers AR for my girlfriend to reach out on some hogs with and I want to swipe a few doe with it.



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Some bullets I got at a gun show back in the early 90ís. They might be Viet Nam era. Who knows.


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Old 10-17-2017, 06:51 PM   #72
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The ???'s and debates will go on and on and on....me and the boys have taken critters, including whitetails and hogs, with 223, 222, 22-250, 5.56 and just DRT.
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:30 AM   #73
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64 grain Winchester Power Points work well.
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Old 11-19-2017, 09:58 AM   #74
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Heart shot w 63 grain soft point. Broke a rib, shattered the heart and lodged behind skin of offside shoulder
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:42 PM   #75
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Neck shot this axis, last weekend, with a hornady black .223 75gr. bthp. One shot and DRT. The bullet lodged just under the skin at the point of the off shoulder.
The neck shot always puts them down for me, but I'm always ready to put another shot into the vitals while they are down or if they recover and get up...always be ready for that follow-up shot/s if needed.

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Old 11-19-2017, 06:44 PM   #76
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:00 PM   #77
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A hunting bullet with that mushrooms and stays together (not a Varmit style Bullet that breaks up on impact).And of course hit them in Boiler Room
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:18 PM   #78
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In tha face!!!!!! Always works.
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:21 PM   #79
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I killed this doe last weekend on doe patrol.
Used 223 and Federal Fusion 62 grain.

Shot her at 45 yards and the bullet hit top of the heart, destroyed the lungs and broke opposite leg.
Found the bullet as it almost exited the skin. Looked like a bomb went off when I hit her. She jumped straight up in the air.





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Old 11-19-2017, 07:31 PM   #80
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It will do the trick. Problem is the shot placement is a must. Smaller bullet less blood/vitals damage. If you have hogs its a great gun for them!!
I hear this often and find it a bit odd...You seem cautious about using it on a deer but it's a great round for hog...wth, hogs are thicker skinned, heavier boned and often greatly outweigh our average deer.

To the op, yes it will do the job with a good bullet, modest range and good shot placement.

I shot one two weeks ago with a little hotter round, an 80 grain from a 22-250AI. I always go for a high shoulder shot and dropped this one at 210 yards with the bullet shattering the shoulder blade on the outbound side.
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Old 11-19-2017, 09:11 PM   #81
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You will be disappointed after using your 3006. As stated no exit wound s mean no blood trail and not near the knock down of the 3006. Depends on where you shoot them. Folks I hunt with in south Texas have gone up in caliber...3006,2506,270,300 to gain pass thru and blood trails,not eliminate them.
This. I've shot does with .204 rugers and .223, the latter loaded with 60grn Partitions. Recovered all of them, but blood trails sucked, and the .204 didn't exit. Use a good bullet and put it where it needs to go and you'll be fine; but I wouldn't expect the same results as a 30-30.
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Old 08-27-2018, 07:10 AM   #82
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Bump this back up. I'm actually looking for a heavier SP to use in the 223. Also has anyone shot a deer with the red box 22 hornet ammo. Hornady has them for29.99 for 50.
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Old 08-27-2018, 07:30 AM   #83
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If it will put down a pig, it will put down a deer. Of course, shot placement is crucial.

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Old 08-27-2018, 07:38 AM   #84
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i am going to a 17 hornet this year 223 is just too powerful
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Old 08-27-2018, 09:20 AM   #85
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Bump this back up. I'm actually looking for a heavier SP to use in the 223. Also has anyone shot a deer with the red box 22 hornet ammo. Hornady has them for29.99 for 50.

Are you talking about .223 ammunition or .22 Hornet ammunition? I've killed plenty of stuff with a .223. I've used the 50 gr. Nosler BT handload out of my CZ to kill a mouflon at 100 yds. DRT. I've found the Hornady Steel Case 55 gr hollow point is very accurate in this gun as well. Looking forward to using it on critters.

I've killed a butt load of axis and several pigs with my AR and the 64 gr. Winchester Ranger Power Point. I've had very good terminal performance with that bullet.

I have since moved to the 75 gr. Speer Gold Dot ammunition, but have not been able to use it on any critters just yet.
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Old 08-27-2018, 10:08 AM   #86
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Old 08-27-2018, 11:18 AM   #87
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It will do the job.
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Old 08-27-2018, 11:32 AM   #88
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That’s all I use on our ranch is .223 and have killed more deer with it then all my other rifles combined. 55gr sierra SP boat tails puts them down no problem, but placement is key.
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Old 08-27-2018, 11:48 AM   #89
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I neck shoot but no issues with a 223

If the rifle twist is 1-8 or 1-7 shoot the heavier stuff, 65+ grain.

I really like Hornady black 75 grainers... Have killed big pigs with it deer got nothing on a pig
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Old 08-27-2018, 12:18 PM   #90
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I have taken several deer with my Mini 14 using Remington Core-Lokt 55 gr PSP ammo. Killed hogs and turkeys too. One of my favorite guns to shoot.
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Old 08-27-2018, 12:25 PM   #91
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my son killed two deer last season in north texas with my ruger .223 He was shooting 55 grain barnes and we had 0 issues. one was 35 yards facing us and he shot him between the front legs. that deer ran 20 yards and piled up. he also shot a doe at 150 yards through the shoulder and she didn't even take a step, just fell over dead. the gun is a great deer gun and perfect caliber i think. Doesn't ruin much meat either.
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Old 08-27-2018, 12:52 PM   #92
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If someone were to ask me about purchasing a deer rifle, I would not recommend a .223 or 5.6 mil. I would recommend a .270 or better. Yes I know many have been shot with a .223 same for a .22. Yeah I know a .22 is illegal for deer but it is still lethal. Average hunter at average range in heat of moment is better off with a .270 rather than .223.
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Old 08-27-2018, 05:03 PM   #93
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Old 08-27-2018, 05:08 PM   #94
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I hunted with a .243 for awhile and noticed that even with good shot placement, they always ran. While I know a .223 is more than capable of killing deer, do you you really want to waste time searching for them and risking not recovering one? I switched to a .308 to avoid this problem
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Old 08-27-2018, 06:02 PM   #95
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Just like any other caliber, shot placement is what counts! Good luck!
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Old 08-27-2018, 06:27 PM   #96
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My kids have killed a few with mine with no problems
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:17 AM   #97
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I neck shoot but no issues with a 223

If the rifle twist is 1-8 or 1-7 shoot the heavier stuff, 65+ grain.

I really like Hornady black 75 grainers... Have killed big pigs with it deer got nothing on a pig
These are what I was looking at
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Old 08-28-2018, 06:00 PM   #98
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Old 08-28-2018, 07:58 PM   #99
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:07 PM   #100
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Yep. My daughter shot a nice doe last year. Hit her in the heart she ran 40 yards and piled up.

Sheís killed several pigs with her 223 as well.

Shot placement is key as usual.


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