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Old 04-13-2018, 08:48 AM   #1
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Anyone know where I can get some? The dallisgrass has totally taken over my yard.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:20 AM   #2
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Solutions Pest & Lawn sells MSMA Target 6 Plus online.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:28 AM   #3
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Pretty much any feed store outside of the city.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:28 AM   #4
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Several years ago they changed the formula of MSMA. It doesn't work near as good as it used to.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:34 AM   #5
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How did they change it?

and I thought it was illegal in texas which is why I was asking where to get it. If anyone knows something to kill dallisgrass without killing my whole lawn I am open to suggestions!
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:37 AM   #6
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How did they change it?

and I thought it was illegal in texas which is why I was asking where to get it. If anyone knows something to kill dallisgrass without killing my whole lawn I am open to suggestions!
They changed a couple of the ingredients. The last that I got of the good stuff was in Tennessee where it was not outlawed. I've used it up though.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:45 AM   #7
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I ordered some online and it was shipped to my door last year. If you ever come by NW Fort Worth/Eagle Mountain Lake area ill give you some if you bring a container and funnel. You only need 2oz per gallon of water so the gallon jug I bought is a bit overkill.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:52 AM   #8
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MSMA is crap and will turn your lawn yellow without killing the targeted grass. Iíve been using Pastora on our turf fields and its amazing. Lawn stays pretty green also.
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Old 04-13-2018, 10:48 AM   #9
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There is an actual store in Plano called DIY Pest and Weed Control on Spring Creek. They have it and will sell it but it's in a large quantity.
I'd go in with you if interested in buying some....
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Old 04-13-2018, 10:52 AM   #10
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It is still available but doesn't work well till temps are higher. I think temps need to be in upper 80 during the day and over 75 at night.
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Old 04-13-2018, 01:08 PM   #11
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They sale it on amazon or just Google it and there are plenty of places that sale it online and will have it to you in two days. As mentioned though it will not work until consistently in the 80s.
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Old 04-13-2018, 01:11 PM   #12
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MSMA used to work great. I used a bunch of it over time until they quit selling it. My understanding is that it had arsenic in it which is obviously not good for the environment but it sure would kill the weeds without killing our bermuda grass. I guess the new formula doesn't have arsenic now. Maybe someone knows more than I do about it.
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Old 04-13-2018, 01:43 PM   #13
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I bought a 2.5 gallon jug several weeks ago. The label still indicates arsenic as an active ingredient, but I was told that the percentage is significantly lower than it was historically.

I sprayed a little test area in my yard on 4/3, I think, and it killed only dandelions... had zero effect on anything else. I'll spray it again in a couple weeks.
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:11 PM   #14
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"TRUE" MSMA was outlawed a few years ago.. The stuff they sell under MSMA today is not the original and is not nearly as effective..
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:42 PM   #15
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MSMA is crap and will turn your lawn yellow without killing the targeted grass. I’ve been using Pastora on our turf fields and its amazing. Lawn stays pretty green also.
I have Bermuda and some buffalo grass that I want to keep. I want to kill broadleafs and dallis grass/crab grass, etc.... Is Pastora good for that?

And do you need to use it with a surfactant?

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Old 04-13-2018, 03:11 PM   #16
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I have Bermuda and some buffalo grass that I want to keep. I want to kill broadleafs and dallis grass/crab grass, etc.... Is Pastora good for that?

And do you need to use it with a surfactant?
Not sure on the Buffalo grass but it will smoke Bahia. Dallis grass will probably need 2 applications to control, crabgrass doesnít stand a chance. I like to mix 24-D with it to kill any other weeds. 1.5 oz per acre with an non-ionic surfactant.

For the others who like to use MSMA, I would recommend to mix Sencor with it to heat it up. 1/4 lb per acre- 1 1/2 Quarts MSMA
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:17 PM   #17
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Not sure on the Buffalo grass but it will smoke Bahia. Dallis grass will probably need 2 applications to control, crabgrass doesnít stand a chance. I like to mix 24-D with it to kill any other weeds. 1.5 oz per acre with an non-ionic surfactant.

For the others who like to use MSMA, I would recommend to mix Sencor with it to heat it up. 1/4 lb per acre- 1 1/2 Quarts MSMA
Good info. Thanks!
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:27 PM   #18
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RMW, I appreciate your advice but Sencor is $440 for 5lbs and Pestora is $100 for 5 oz. I have some MSMA that a friend let me have because it is about to expire. I haven't tried it yet but after reading your post I am afraid too.

Are there any products on the market that I can get to kill everything in my yard except for my Bermuda at a reasonable price?
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:40 PM   #19
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I use MSMA on my place to kill weeds and unwanted grasses. Just mix it a little strong and it will do the job.
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Old 04-13-2018, 04:17 PM   #20
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Stopped by Tractor Supply on my way home.
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Old 04-13-2018, 04:17 PM   #21
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I think it's too windy to spray today though. Big Spring is in the air today.

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Old 04-13-2018, 04:25 PM   #22
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RMW, I appreciate your advice but Sencor is $440 for 5lbs and Pestora is $100 for 5 oz. I have some MSMA that a friend let me have because it is about to expire. I haven't tried it yet but after reading your post I am afraid too.

Are there any products on the market that I can get to kill everything in my yard except for my Bermuda at a reasonable price?
Sencor is expensive because itís labeled for turf. I used Metribuzin which cost 60$ for the exact same thing. Pastora at 1.5 oz per acre is relatively cheap. I would give you some if you were close. Your cheapest route is the MSMA at 1.5 quarts per acre every 10-14 days till itís cleaned up.
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Old 04-13-2018, 05:04 PM   #23
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Stopped by Tractor Supply on my way home.
Smart choice! Good luck

Take a before and 10 day after pic if possible.
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Old 04-14-2018, 06:48 PM   #24
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I worked at a plant that made a MSMA product back in the 90s and that stuff would kill everything and mix it to strong nothing would grow there for a while. The main part of the mix was arsenic trioxide among other bad things.
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:37 PM   #25
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Tribute Total works very well.


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Old 09-11-2018, 10:07 PM   #26
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On Dallisgrass???
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Old 09-12-2018, 06:16 AM   #27
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:03 AM   #28
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On Dallisgrass???


Yes Tribute Total is labeled for Dallis. You may see some regrowth on the larger plants. Three to six weeks after the first treatment just check and treat any new green you may see.



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Old 09-12-2018, 09:16 AM   #29
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Now that is a BLAST from the PAST!!! I used to spray that on lawns when I was in grad school working for ChemLawn back in 1991!
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Old 09-12-2018, 08:29 PM   #30
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Shane, how did the Pastora work. Thinking about getting some on my yard this week depending on rain
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:36 PM   #31
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Shane, how did the Pastora work. Thinking about getting some on my yard this week depending on rain
It worked great. Took a out 10 days to kill the dallis grass.
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:16 AM   #32
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Just FYI pastora isnt labeled for yard/turf, but as long as your hay meadow/pasture is also your yard, you're good to go.

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