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Old 04-23-2014, 06:56 AM   #51
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Just get a 5.0 and put twin turbos on it.

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I have a 2011 ecoboost and wish I would have got the v8
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:10 AM   #53
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After seeing the dash display I'm wondering if the mileage being reported is from what the truck display says or actual gallons used divided into miles driven? There usually is quite a difference. Usually the truck reading is more favorable than the pen to paper method.
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:32 AM   #54
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After seeing the dash display I'm wondering if the mileage being reported is from what the truck display says or actual gallons used divided into miles driven? There usually is quite a difference. Usually the truck reading is more favorable than the pen to paper method.
The display on the last two vehicles I have had are about 1 1/2 mpg higher than actual gallons to miles calculation when filling up...even when you get off the dealer lot, they are still lying to you... :-(
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Had my 2014 Fx4 ecoboost for about 3 weeks now and I love the low end torque. Getting 17 mpg's so far (1200 miles) also have the max tow package which it comes with the 3.73 rear end. I have been babying some so I think it will be a solid 16 mpg truck. Running 87 octane with no issues.

I did a ton of research on this eco vs 5.0 and this is what YOU need to decide.
1) do I want or need the low end torque for pulling. If so go to the ecoboost, 5.0 can't touch the Eco in usable torque, Eco hit 420 ft pound of torque at 2500 rpm's and maintains this pretty well thouout the power band
2) do I want good mpg's? They are a push, the Eco with the high geared rear end seem to do very well, 3.55 and lower the mpg's really start to go down. Go with the 5.0

I was one of those guys who just could not buy a v6 in a full size truck till I saw first hand what it can do. It will beat most and hold its own with any stock V8 made, just got to get past it don't have the V8 growl and it is a v6.

There is a video on you tube "Ike gauntlet" watch some of those, the only othe half ton truck that keep up was the Tundra
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If you pull anything heavier than a johnboat, get the eco. I have a 2012 eco 4x4 screw long bed with the 3.55 gears. Pulls my 6K camper like nothing. Avg about 10.5-11 doing that. Usually run about 18+ on the highway at 75.
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If you pull anything heavier than a johnboat, get the eco. I have a 2012 eco 4x4 screw long bed with the 3.55 gears. Pulls my 6K camper like nothing. Avg about 10.5-11 doing that. Usually run about 18+ on the highway at 75.
Dang must be nice! I get 5.5mpg pulling a 6500 camper.... I got 373's
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I like the sounds of that!
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5.0 No doubt!
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Old 04-23-2014, 09:57 AM   #61
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I have a 2013 4x4 ecoboost. Love the truck. It is very quiet. I get 18.1 miles/gallon (22,000 miles on the truck) and that is a mix of city driving (stop and go) and highway driving.
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:33 AM   #62
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I have a 13 XLT 4x4 with Ecoboost and to be honest, being an ole die-hard V8 guy from childbirth, it was a lot to get me to go for this twin turbo 3.5L little V6. Having owned a ton of v8 4x4 trucks and suvs, both Chevy and Ford, I can tell you one thing. Nothing I have ever owned pulls like this right out of the box. I do hear a lot of Eco owners complain about mileage, but the main source of the problem lies within a little known fact. Ford has to have installed a newfangled 'foot magnet' under the gas pedal, cause as soon as you get on it a little, hear those turbos spool up and feel your backside pull into the seat, you just want to bury it. Some of the most fun I have had. Another plus side is max torque is found at 2500rpm, 20 less than the 6.2L factory output mind you, whereas the 5.0 is making max torque at 4500rpm. The turbos are the same technology they have been using forever and three days on the diesels, so it is tried and true. I have been averaging 15.5 to 16mpg in town, all stop and go, best highway was 20+. Pulled a few rv's, car trailer loaded with various vehicles, and each time, set the cruise and forget it is back there. Just my pennies worth, but I can not rave enough about this little v6. Way impressed. :-)
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:49 AM   #63
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I sell Ford's in Georgetown. I sold about 50 trucks last year and it was half Eco half 5.0. I only had one truck come back with issues, the 5.0. It really comes down to what you want. 2013 was the last year they put the 6.2L in the half tons. They are shaving 700lbs of with a all aluminum Alloy body, which is more dent resistent.

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Old 04-23-2014, 10:50 AM   #64
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I have a 13 XLT 4x4 with Ecoboost and to be honest, being an ole die-hard V8 guy from childbirth, it was a lot to get me to go for this twin turbo 3.5L little V6. Having owned a ton of v8 4x4 trucks and suvs, both Chevy and Ford, I can tell you one thing. Nothing I have ever owned pulls like this right out of the box. I do hear a lot of Eco owners complain about mileage, but the main source of the problem lies within a little known fact. Ford has to have installed a newfangled 'foot magnet' under the gas pedal, cause as soon as you get on it a little, hear those turbos spool up and feel your backside pull into the seat, you just want to bury it. Some of the most fun I have had. Another plus side is max torque is found at 2500rpm, 20 less than the 6.2L factory output mind you, whereas the 5.0 is making max torque at 4500rpm. The turbos are the same technology they have been using forever and three days on the diesels, so it is tried and true. I have been averaging 15.5 to 16mpg in town, all stop and go, best highway was 20+. Pulled a few rv's, car trailer loaded with various vehicles, and each time, set the cruise and forget it is back there. Just my pennies worth, but I can not rave enough about this little v6. Way impressed. :-)
Good explanation, I still can't believe a little 3.5l v6 can do what it does. Also when you hook up to a trailer and going up hill the is not much shifting down with this little engine. It just keeps pulling, it doesn't hunt for gears.

As stated above, compare the torque curve between the Eco, 5.0 and 6.2 and look what kind of usable power between 1500 to 3000 rpm's. That lies the answer. So what if you only get 15 mpg's, show me an gas engine that has this much power and gets better mpg's
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:58 AM   #65
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I sell Ford's in Georgetown. I sold about 50 trucks last year and it was half Eco half 5.0. I only had one truck come back with issues, the 5.0. It really comes down to what you want. 2013 was the last year they put the 6.2L in the half tons. They are shaving 700lbs of with a all aluminum Alloy body, which is more dent resistent.

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We have hooked them up to a dino. @1800 rpm's the turbo's start up. @2500 rpm's you are at 80% of your max torque. The V8 is much higher, as is for all V8's. Granted the V8 does sound tuff.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:05 AM   #67
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Love my '12 eco. Didnt buy it for the mileage although when Im on the highway running 65-70 I love the mileage. Around town it gets about 14.1-14.2. I bought the truck because it was the happy medium between a v8 and diesel. I can park the truck in my garage at home and at my office.

Im getting ready to put a gooseneck on it so I can haul a 20-24' bar top cattle trailer.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:06 AM   #68
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I have a 2011 5.0 4x4 102K on it with no problems to date.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:12 AM   #69
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That would be one bad*** truck. I have 2013 with 33's and level not real happy with around town mpg but hwy is pretty good for what it is. Love the truck.
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I have a 13 XLT 4x4 with Ecoboost and to be honest, being an ole die-hard V8 guy from childbirth, it was a lot to get me to go for this twin turbo 3.5L little V6. Having owned a ton of v8 4x4 trucks and suvs, both Chevy and Ford, I can tell you one thing. Nothing I have ever owned pulls like this right out of the box. I do hear a lot of Eco owners complain about mileage, but the main source of the problem lies within a little known fact. Ford has to have installed a newfangled 'foot magnet' under the gas pedal, cause as soon as you get on it a little, hear those turbos spool up and feel your backside pull into the seat, you just want to bury it. Some of the most fun I have had. Another plus side is max torque is found at 2500rpm, 20 less than the 6.2L factory output mind you, whereas the 5.0 is making max torque at 4500rpm. The turbos are the same technology they have been using forever and three days on the diesels, so it is tried and true. I have been averaging 15.5 to 16mpg in town, all stop and go, best highway was 20+. Pulled a few rv's, car trailer loaded with various vehicles, and each time, set the cruise and forget it is back there. Just my pennies worth, but I can not rave enough about this little v6. Way impressed. :-)
Just hope its not the Turbos they put on the 6.0s because I have personally helped rebuild 3 with unison ring, vane and coking problems.
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I have the Eco Boost V6 in a 2012 King Ranch. I am about to hit the 60K mark on it and the computer reading shows 17.3 MPG. It has the power when I need it. I run a BaK Flip cover on the back as well.
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Is the warranty on the Eco the same as the v8?
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:30 AM   #73
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2012 ECO 4x4 with 64k on it. Mileage is around 17 depending. 3.73 rear end 11k towing capacity. It is a ton of fun to drive. Gets decent mileage and will tow quite a bit. I have driven 3/4 or 1 ton diesels since 1992. I am not disappointed with the ECO. With all of that said, it is a personal choice.

Oh yea and about the Nav system. I make money with mine and I have had no issues.
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I have a 2013 Platinum 4x4 with the Ecoboost, when it was stock for about 5000 miles I averaged 15.8 in mostly in town driving and averaged 19 on a trip to Amarillo and back to Houston. Since I lifted it and put 33" Nitto Trail Grapplers on it I average 14.8 with a 93 octane tune from 5 Star tuning for the last 30,000 miles. That tune is a must have for these trucks in my opinion, the thing is even more fun to drive now. I also tow 8-10K a couple times of month behind it without issue. The only thing I would've done differently is get the 3.73 gears instead of the 3.55's, I would think the 3.73 gears would get better mileage with a lift and heavier tires.

My last truck was a 2008 F150 with a supercharged 5.4 in it and this truck is more fun to drive and gets better gas mileage.
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I have a 2013 Platinum 4x4 with the Ecoboost, when it was stock for about 5000 miles I averaged 15.8 in mostly in town driving and averaged 19 on a trip to Amarillo and back to Houston. Since I lifted it and put 33" Nitto Trail Grapplers on it I average 14.8 with a 93 octane tune from 5 Star tuning for the last 30,000 miles. That tune is a must have for these trucks in my opinion, the thing is even more fun to drive now. I also tow 8-10K a couple times of month behind it without issue. The only thing I would've done differently is get the 3.73 gears instead of the 3.55's, I would think the 3.73 gears would get better mileage with a lift and heavier tires.

My last truck was a 2008 F150 with a supercharged 5.4 in it and this truck is more fun to drive and gets better gas mileage.
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I have a 2013 Echo Boost 2wd. LOVE IT. great milage. 19 avg mpg. Just pulled a 6k camper 550 miles. got 13.8 mpg. and plenty of power. I can get 22 MPG hwy going to SA.
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After seeing the dash display I'm wondering if the mileage being reported is from what the truck display says or actual gallons used divided into miles driven? There usually is quite a difference. Usually the truck reading is more favorable than the pen to paper method.
Yes there is a difference. Subtract about .5 mpg from that figure. It can vary. I've calculated any from -.2 to -.8 mpg difference on my truck.
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Link to the tuner
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A lot of people see "ecoboost" and think it's a mileage engine, which it is not. It's a hauling engine that happens to get decent mileage for what it can pull.
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A lot of people see "ecoboost" and think it's a mileage engine, which it is not. It's a hauling engine that happens to get decent mileage for what it can pull.
I think your description is accurate... BUT... Ford markets it for gas mileage as well and even emphasizes over other good qualities of the engine... If they'd just be honest about it in their advertising, there'd probably be less complaining about it...
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I think your description is accurate... BUT... Ford markets it for gas mileage as well and even emphasizes over other good qualities of the engine... If they'd just be honest about it in their advertising, there'd probably be less complaining about it...
I feel the exact same way.
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I have a 13 XLT, 4x4, 5.0, 3.73 rear end w/ a 6ft bed. I just did my first old change this past week and now Im averaging 18.3. I averaged 16.5 with the first & factory oil but never got #s like this when it was brand new. Highway & gravel roads mostly, some in town driving.

My only complaint is mine will not turn around for squat.
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Is the warranty on the Eco the same as the v8?
Yeah it is.
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Just think about the 2015 dropping 700lbs off it. That like taking 700lb load out of the bed of the truck. What's your guesses on the gas mileage then?
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My company ride is an ecoboost. More power then my previous V8s and my average gas milage is 18.2mpg. 76,000 miles on it already. Only weird thing is how quiet it is. I kinda miss the V8 growl.
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Just think about the 2015 dropping 700lbs off it. That like taking 700lb load out of the bed of the truck. What's your guesses on the gas mileage then?
It will have smaller displacement engines as well.
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It will have smaller displacement engines as well.
Same motor's available and a couple more
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5.0 for sure!!!
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My company ride is an ecoboost. More power then my previous V8s and my average gas milage is 18.2mpg. 76,000 miles on it already. Only weird thing is how quiet it is. I kinda miss the V8 growl.
That was one of the first things I noticed about mine too... how quiet it is... Sounds like a "rice-burner" from the outside though..
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2012 Ecoboost 4X4 Screw, running 32in BFGs with a 2in leveling kit. 48,000 miles.
I can get around 18-20 on the highway if im easy on the peddle. But that lasts about 10 minutes. so I average 15-16 on the hwy. plus I'm usually loaded to the hilt.
As for towing im usually in the 12-13 range. In the city im around 14-15 depending on how big of a hurry im in.
I have had 0 issues with the eco and would buy it again. It is quick, quiet, fun, fast, and has power all the way to 100 where the governor limits me.

The leveling kit and tires killed my gas mileage.
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My brother inlaw is works in ford service. He says there are 20 ecoboost for every 1 5.0 in for repairs. That was enough to make me choose the 5.0.
While I am sure that there are more mechanical issues and even enough to make me consider a 5.0, the fact that ford is selling WAY more ecoboost than 5.0 would be part of the reason that there are more in the shop.
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While I am sure that there are more mechanical issues and even enough to make me consider a 5.0, the fact that ford is selling WAY more ecoboost than 5.0 would be part of the reason that there are more in the shop.
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I have a 2012 FX4 Ecoboost with 3.73 gears. Runs like a top. I just rolled 50K miles and it is still by far my favorite motor. I have driven the 5.0 and it was a slug compared to the Ecoboost.
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I have a 2012 FX4 Ecoboost with 3.73 gears. Runs like a top. I just rolled 50K miles and it is still by far my favorite motor. I have driven the 5.0 and it was a slug compared to the Ecoboost.
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What bumper is that. I like it a lot.
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Thanks everyone for all the info, still not sure what I will get just yet but at least I have had good feed back on both
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:17 AM   #97
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I have a 2012 FX4 Ecoboost with 3.73 gears. Runs like a top. I just rolled 50K miles and it is still by far my favorite motor. I have driven the 5.0 and it was a slug compared to the Ecoboost.
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:46 AM   #98
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Is there a hole for the intercooler?
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Old 04-24-2014, 09:21 AM   #99
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I have a 2012 FX4 Ecoboost with 3.73 gears. Runs like a top. I just rolled 50K miles and it is still by far my favorite motor. I have driven the 5.0 and it was a slug compared to the Ecoboost.
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I don't see how that could be. They are the same in HP, the Eco has an advantage with torque, but not enough to make the 5.0 "feel like a slug".

Fwiw I have not driven either.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:13 AM   #100
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I don't see how that could be. They are the same in HP, the Eco has an advantage with torque, but not enough to make the 5.0 "feel like a slug".

Fwiw I have not driven either.
An extra 40 ft-lbs of torque at peak, but the ecoboost makes almost 400 ft-lbs from 2000rpm to redline, peak numbers being 420 at 2500 rpm. The 5.0 makes 380 at 4250 rpm. That's why it feels like a dog compared to the ecoboost. I drove all 3 motors and the ecoboost was the quickest of the 3. The 6.2 and ecoboost are pretty evenly matched, but the ecoboost gets significantly better gas mileage than the 6.2. There's a reason the 6.2 and ecoboost can tow 2000 pounds more than the 5.0.
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