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Old 06-01-2017, 08:15 PM   #1
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This is a conversation on the Nextdoor app for our neighborhood yesterday. Names were changed to protect the innocent (and the apparent Yankee)

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Nervous Nellie 1d ago
We are new to Texas, but we are already in awe of the weather here in Abilene and its terrible potential. I'm curious to know, if enough other people here in the neighborhood thinks a community storm shelter would be a good idea? Or maybe one in each corner of the community? We are considering spending over $5000 to install one in our backyard, but we wouldn't want to be the only neighbors to survive should the unthinkable happen. Since we are a military family and will likely only live here for three years before moving on, we would be willing to donate that amount to a community shelter, if enough other people feel the same?

KK 1d ago
Us natives are used to it and take the weather with a grain of salt . This year has been calm in comparison


DO 1d ago
I moved here from Illinois in 2011 and KK is right - you will adjust, no need to overspend - just know a few common safety things, like ice days no travel - and I have experienced first hand the worst - my house had a lightning strike last year. Fortunately most homes have smoke alarms and damage was minimal.


Nervous Nellie 1d ago
During this tornado season, every time a large storm has moved through here, at least one tornado has touch downed within a one hour vicinity of Abilene. Looking into Abilene's tornado history, three F-3 tornados with death tolls have ripped through town. Two F-4 tornados struck, one struck where Dyess AFB stands today. Besides Moore OK, which cities anywhere in the mid-west has a history of an F-5 touchdown until the day one actually does hit them? Abilene's tornado risk is listed everywhere as high, with an average of three tornados per year, usually F-1 or F-2. Does one really get used to crouching in closets when warnings are issued? Or are we just lucky so far? It's not gambling just once, it's gambling every time a storm system passes through Abilene. I'm sure Abilene's longest residents will recall Abilene's deadly tornados in the 1970's and 1980's.

http://www.homefacts.com/tornadoes/Texas...


HW 1d ago
I hear your concern. We moved here 4 years ago from California and the thought of a tornado was terrifying. I looked at the website you referenced and can only find a mention of 5 deaths (during one tornado) in Clyde/Baird in 1950 and one death in 1985 in a city far away that I've never heard of. I see where one went through town in 1965 and that's pretty scary. It looks like most go around and that seems to fit with what we've been told- that it has something to do with our topography. If you want to build a storm shelter it would probably just be a nice benefit for when you go to sell, it's always nice for peace of mind. I believe the biggest threats here are wind and hail.

Honestly, the most concerning piece to me on that website was a side bar that said we have 49.5% more registered offenders than the average city.


Nervous Nellie 1d ago
The ranchers that lived where Dyess is today when the F-4 struck in 1909 barely escaped with their lives because they had a tornado shelter. When they emerged their house, barn, fences and lots of cattle were stripped from their land. If that tornado hit Dyess today, it would not strip cattle from the land, it would strip the vast population of the base. The same can be said for Abilene, since Abilene's population is much higher today than it was 50 years ago.

http://keanradio.com/the-worst-weather-d...


Nervous Nellie 1d ago
To be more precise, "A total of 78 historical tornado events that had recorded magnitude of 2 or above found in or near Abilene, TX." And that's just since they started recording in 1950. So that averages to over one category F-2 or higher tornado per year "in or near Abilene" since 1950. That's 78 tornados in 67 years.
http://www.usa.com/abilene-tx-natural-di...


HW 1d ago
Wow, I didn't know about those. Whatever you decide just remember to follow HOA regulations.


Nervous Nellie 11h ago
My offer stands for those who are interested in a storm shelter. Please feel free to private message me.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:22 PM   #2
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Wait until she finds out about the rattlesnakes that are out there and has something else to focus her worries on.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:25 PM   #3
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Wait until she finds out about the rattlesnakes that are out there and has something else to focus her worries on.
Yep. We kill one in our yard every now and then. I'm looking forward to her educating us poor, dumb locals about the real and present dangers of rattlesnakes soon.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:26 PM   #4
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wow! Tell her the COG can get one for her at a reduced rate!
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:32 PM   #5
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She needs a big dose of shutthehellup.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:35 PM   #6
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She needs a big dose of shutthehellup.
Nah. I'm pretty sure most of the neighbors are looking forward to spending a few hours with her in the new community storm shelter every time a potentially DEADLY!! cloud pops up. She sounds like she's the life of the party.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:36 PM   #7
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:46 PM   #8
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She is probably going to wind up the Community Safety Rep. Sounds like y'all yokels haven't got it down after all these years
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:49 PM   #9
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:51 PM   #10
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just be thankful for all of the interesting facts she is throwing around! I miss out on that wonderful education by living out of town.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:56 PM   #11
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I guess you can be blase about a tornado.......right up until one destroys your home. You won't ever feel quite the same about a storm after that. That's why there's a storm room in my shop !

I want all you guys that poo-poo about storms to stop carrying guns, 'cause after all, ain't nothin' bad gonna happen.......

As you might glean from this post, I think Nervous Nellie is spot on !
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:57 PM   #12
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All ready bought her helmet and bullhorn off Amazon. You are doomed.............
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:00 PM   #13
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I guess you can be blase about a tornado.......right up until one destroys your home. You won't ever feel quite the same about a storm after that. That's why there's a storm room in my shop !

I want all you guys that poo-poo about storms to stop carrying guns, 'cause after all, ain't nothin' bad gonna happen.......

As you might glean from this post, I think Nervous Nellie is spot on !
Maybe she should be named Paula Prepper..
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:02 PM   #14
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Need pics! Just blur the face out....howdy Shane !!
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:05 PM   #15
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I guess you can be blase about a tornado.......right up until one destroys your home. You won't ever feel quite the same about a storm after that. That's why there's a storm room in my shop !

I want all you guys that poo-poo about storms to stop carrying guns, 'cause after all, ain't nothin' bad gonna happen.......

As you might glean from this post, I think Nervous Nellie is spot on !
I think it's a good idea to have a shelter, and I don't dismiss the dangers of tornadoes. But she's a little unrealistic in her expectations of immanent doom.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:07 PM   #16
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I don't know man. I've been through a forest fire and the smell of smoke puts me on high alert every time.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:12 PM   #17
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My question is who makes the decision on when to open the doors to the shelter. And when to close -em.

The fish are biting, and there's hogs to be kilt. Gotta go!
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:15 PM   #18
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Yep. We kill one in our yard every now and then. I'm looking forward to her educating us poor, dumb locals about the real and present dangers of rattlesnakes soon.
Lol we have lots of city people in our division outside of town and they're going nuts about all the snakes seen and killed this year. They don't understand it will happen 5 miles out of town and can't grasp why they see more than us even though they have brushpiles and animal feed for their horses, goats, dogs, and whatever else. I've tried explaining mice come to the feed and snakes to the mice and that brushpiles need to go. Their solution is get a snake hunter in the winter to find THE den they all come from hahaha
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:16 PM   #19
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I don't want to have to run 2 or 3 blocks to have to get to a "community" shelter to find out I'm locked out.
I'll take my chances with my own shelter that is only steps away.

The fish are biting, and there's hogs to be kilt. Gotta go!
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:19 PM   #20
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When you are new to tornado country it takes a while to understand when you need to be concerned and when you can go about your business while keeping an eye out. I had a fraternity brother from upstate New York. (This was at OSU) His first Spring in Stillwater he would dive in the bathtub every time a nasty thunderstorm rolled through. By his third year he figured he wouldn't panic until the Oklahoma farm boys did. If they take cover you better get yourself hid!
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:20 PM   #21
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I'd be willing to bet good money that she is in upper management somewhere for her nack for looking at numbers and statistics and totally ignoring everyone's opinions.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:24 PM   #22
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I'd be willing to bet good money that she is in upper management somewhere for her nack for looking at numbers and statistics and totally ignoring everyone's opinions.
Lol...lol.

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Old 06-01-2017, 09:27 PM   #23
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Better knock on wood Shane. lol

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Old 06-01-2017, 09:29 PM   #24
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Better knock on wood Shane. lol

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I know. I figure my house will get struck by lightning and then hit by a tornado after posting this thread.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:30 PM   #25
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Y'all need a yankee shelter


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Old 06-01-2017, 09:47 PM   #26
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Let her experience a few 112 degree days and she'll forget all about tornadoes.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:56 PM   #27
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Making fun of a Military family. SMH. I thank her and her family for their service to this country.


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The response from the Illinois native is what surprises me. I thought there were a lot more serious tonados in Illinois than there are as far west as Ablilene.
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Yeah, right. That's what he was doing.
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She's got her facts together
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:22 PM   #32
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A military family? Now I know I dont like her.


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Old 06-01-2017, 10:25 PM   #33
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What military family has $5k extra to spend?!!
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The Commanding General.


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Exactly! Doubt they would only be here for 3 years if that were the case! LOL


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Old 06-01-2017, 10:55 PM   #36
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Wait until she finds out about the rattlesnakes that are out there and has something else to focus her worries on.
And scorpions and little tiny armored pigs (armadillos) that carry leprosy--
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Old 06-01-2017, 11:14 PM   #37
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My mom and dad's old house on Pioneer Drive there in Abilene had a under ground bomb shelter that had 4 bunk beds in it. You could probably get 15-20 people in it for a short period of time.
Every time a storm came up there were 4 neighbors that would be in it. They didn't have to ask. I lived there for 20 years my folks lived there for 30 years and none of us never got in it.
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Old 06-01-2017, 11:52 PM   #38
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:13 AM   #39
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Thank them for their service? Hell you can do better than that from that high horse! After you stop shakin' your head, offer to pay for her shelter. Put all us heathens to shame......
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Old 06-02-2017, 06:20 AM   #40
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Willing to bet nervous Nellie is from up north.....
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Old 06-02-2017, 06:47 AM   #41
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Old 06-02-2017, 07:22 AM   #42
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I like how everyone says from up north... Looking at that map we get more tornados "up north" then Texas gets that being said I see no problem with being prepared. We have basements up here but if that's not an option a shelter would be nice on occasion. Nothing like riding out an ef3 in a nice solid concrete basement. The month of clean up after was the worst part...

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Old 06-02-2017, 07:36 AM   #43
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My dad was born in 1927 in Big Springs and lived there until he joined the Navy during WWII.

They had a storm shelter and he said he was more afraid of what might be in the storm shelter (rattle snakes) than he was of the impending doom from a storm.
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Old 06-02-2017, 07:43 AM   #44
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It don't take long for a thread to go south these days, but I am sure 41 minutes is not a record.

When are y'all breaking ground for the shelter?
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Old 06-02-2017, 07:50 AM   #45
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Funny thing about rattlesnakes and storm cellars out there west of the Brazos.
We have 2 old concrete cellars on the lease in Sterling Co.
Both cellars are where we go look if we need some rattlers to skin and to put on the grille. Summer or winter they just like them big dark holes in the ground.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:25 AM   #46
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When I lived in Dripping Springs the property behind me sold and the guy who bought it was going to hand dig a storm shelter because he was worried about tornados. I don't think a tornado has even ever gone through Dripping Springs. I told him it was solid rock 6-10 inches under the dirt and he didn't believe me. He started digging with a shovel and removed 6" of dirt and hit solid rock. He removed all the dirt on top of the rock for the size of shelter he had to dig and then asked me how to dig through the rock. I handed him my rock bar and said with this. He spent 15 minutes trying to break up a rock and gave up. Decided he wanted a place with more dirt so he could have his shelter and sold out. I believe he was from the mid west by way of California.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:34 AM   #47
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I see a Texas based sci-fi movie spinning off from this...Snakenado, a spin off of the "great" sharknado movies.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:45 AM   #48
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I bet ya BoB's snowboard "She" is a Shelter salesman
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Old 06-02-2017, 09:03 AM   #49
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Just wait till she jumps in the storm shelter and gets bit by a rattle snake.
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Old 06-02-2017, 09:54 AM   #50
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WTH is a Nextdoor app????
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