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Old 09-22-2020, 07:09 PM   #1
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Looking at my next purchase, and stuck between a 7mm or 300 win mag.

I know the 7mm has about 25% less recoil, and shots flatter at longer distances.

I also know the 300, you can get heavier weight bullets For larger game, ie Moose.

What’s y’all’s thoughts. I have a 30-30 and looking to get a custom 257 Weatherby mag. (And my dads keepsake 30-06).

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Old 09-22-2020, 07:09 PM   #2
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.300 WSM. Nothing a 180gr bullet can't kill in North America

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Old 09-22-2020, 07:41 PM   #3
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300mag for sure. I've owned and shot both. To me the 7 had more felt recoil than the 300. Sweetest 300 I've ever shot was a 300 H&H
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:43 PM   #4
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I like 7mag because you can load down or up depending on target species. But on the other hand im a .300wm fanboy so theres always that
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:49 PM   #5
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I had a 7mm, it was accurate and flat shooting but lacked knockdown energy. I sent that rifle to APR and it's a 300 WM now.
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Old 09-22-2020, 08:04 PM   #6
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I have both, and I’ll say that a 180g at 3000 FPS out of a Win Mag is a hammer. They both have advantages, especially in the BCs. For example the Barnes 145 LRX out of a 7mag at 3000-3100 FPS is super flat with moderate recoil. Either one will kill crap dead as long as you do your part. My opinion is that the 7mag has a better recoil than the 300. I have both and neither of them have brakes, but my 300 Win is probably getting one just cause it can hammer on both ends.


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I had a 7mm, it was accurate and flat shooting but lacked knockdown energy. I sent that rifle to APR and it's a 300 WM now.

What did you shoot with the 7mag that it lacked “knockdown power” for?


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Old 09-22-2020, 09:50 PM   #8
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I shot Axis, WT, and pigs mostly and had no problem killing with the 7mm, but most were found at the end of a blood trail rather than where they were when I pulled the trigger. I've had more animals DRT from a 300wm, 35 whelen, 338 Fed, and 308 on a normal 10 ring hit.
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Old 09-22-2020, 10:00 PM   #9
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I shot Axis, WT, and pigs mostly and had no problem killing with the 7mm, but most were found at the end of a blood trail rather than where they were when I pulled the trigger. I've had more animals DRT from a 300wm, 35 whelen, 338 Fed, and 308 on a normal 10 ring hit.
Weird. I hunt with a 243 or 7mm-08 and drop just about everything in their tracks.
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Weird. I hunt with a 243 or 7mm-08 and drop just about everything in their tracks.

Lol...same here!
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Old 09-22-2020, 10:05 PM   #11
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Weird. I hunt with a 243 or 7mm-08 and drop just about everything in their tracks.
Maybe one day I'll get there.

The OP asked for an opinion on 7mm vs 300wm and of the two I feel that the 300 packs more punch. I don't know about you but I'm not looking for a magnum caliber to shoot things in the neck or high shoulder, which is where I'd be aiming with the calibers you mentioned. My best guess is that you're not aiming for the lungs with a 243 if you don't want to take a walk to find the animal. I shoot a 7mm-08 more often than not and have no problem putting a bullet wherever I need to, but when I need a magnum rifle the 300wm gets it done for me.

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Old 09-22-2020, 10:31 PM   #12
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Lol, I’ve been shooting a 7mm mag since 1997, I don’t think I’ve ever had to track an animal. However, nothing at all wrong with the 300, I would probably go there if I were buying a new one.
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Old 09-23-2020, 04:54 AM   #13
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If moose is in your future of the two 300wm is the the better choice
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Can’t go wrong either way. Both are over kill for 99% of game IMO
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Old 09-23-2020, 08:16 AM   #15
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I had a 7mm, it was accurate and flat shooting but lacked knockdown energy. I sent that rifle to APR and it's a 300 WM now.
Wait, what? 7mm Mag not enough knockdown power?? You hunting elephants?
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Old 09-23-2020, 08:35 AM   #16
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Wait, what? 7mm Mag not enough knockdown power?? You hunting elephants?

Between the 7mm and the 300wm the OP asked about, the 7mm doesn’t hold a candle to a 300 in knockdown energy.


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Old 09-23-2020, 08:35 AM   #17
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Between the 7mm and the 300wm the OP asked about, the 7mm doesn’t hold a candle to a 300 in knockdown energy.


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Depending on projectile.
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Old 09-23-2020, 08:43 AM   #18
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Id go further in shot placement.

I'd vote 7mm, easy to get components right now.

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Depending on projectile.
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Old 09-23-2020, 08:46 AM   #19
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Id go further in shot placement.

I'd vote 7mm, easy to get components right now.

7mm is just a down right good caliber but at the end of the day shoot what you like.

Most guys shooting big magnums are also shooting watered down loads like corelokt or federal blue box. With a light bullet.

There isn’t anything in America beside maybe a grizzly that can’t be killed with a short case cartridge. Shot placement, bullet selection, distance if you have all 3 of these the animal is dead.


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Old 09-23-2020, 08:51 AM   #20
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If you have a 30-06 you don't 'need' either
But I like flat shooting guns - 7mag
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Old 09-23-2020, 09:04 AM   #21
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300 win mag has my vote, you can hunt all of North America no problem
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Depending on projectile.
This. Are you looking for maximum energy dumps which result in DRT shots but rarely pass through or a dependable pass through with good weight retention and solid blood trails. Both can be accomplished with the two calibers you mentioned. As far as flatter shooting, the 7mm mag is definitely flatter but me personally prefer a 300 with a 180 grain Berger.

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Old 09-23-2020, 09:33 AM   #23
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My .300 win mag was converted into a 7mm rem mag. Will kill anything in north america. If I am chasing moose or big bears then will load it up with 175 gr barnes tsx or nosler partition. For elk, caribou, or black bear load up 160 gr of your chosen flavor partition, accubond, really any bonded bullet. For deer or smaller the 140-160 gr bullets in a nosler ballistic tip or sst etc flavor get the nod. And won't beat the hell out of you when your shooting it like a .300 win mag. Chosen elk load this year is a 162 gr sst and will also be my deer and pig load.
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Old 09-23-2020, 10:32 AM   #24
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Any thoughts about a 7SAUM? I'm getting 2950 fps with a Berger 180 grain out of a Proof 24" barrel. Much less recoil than the 7mag or 300win, but I'm old and wimpy.
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Old 09-23-2020, 10:54 AM   #25
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7MM STW in a Rem Sendero...
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Old 09-23-2020, 11:21 AM   #27
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Weird. I hunt with a 243 or 7mm-08 and drop just about everything in their tracks.
My wife’s 7mm-08 drops them straight down, and the .243 I sold a while back had a few short tracks of 20-30 yards in thick yaupon infested oak flats, but certainly nothing that made me ever worry about losing an animal with it. And I’ve never aimed for a neck shot in my life. Maybe I’m missing something

And while I haven’t shot the 7 mag that I bought on a whim a while back and now is just sitting in the safe, I don’t know that I would ever need to worry about a long track with it. Not sure if I’ll ever shoot it, but had hopes of hunting Colorado this year that didn’t come to fruition...wife’s folks are selling their place there. Certainly no need to here at the house, I’ll keep using the 7mm-08 for that
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Old 09-24-2020, 09:34 AM   #29
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Both are great calibers and at the end of the day the IP needs to shoot what he is comfortable with and can shoot accurately.

I had to chuckle a little at the comparison between the two on Axis, pigs and Whitetail. Only because both of the calibers in question could be considered overkill on those smaller species.

That being said, I think the 7mm Magnum is a more versatile caliber in being able to shoot lighter weight bullets. As an example, you can load a 110 gr Barnes TTSX at 3500 fps if you want a fast, flat shooting bullet for smaller big game like Antelope, Deer etc.. Or, you can load it up with a 175 gr Barnes TSX and take it on your Moose hunt.

I personally shoot a 7mm RUM and my “go to” load is the Barnes 145 gr LRX. In Africa I loaded it with Barnes 160 gr TSX bullets and it hammered the largest of plains game animals with no issues. Oh, and as far as DRT? That has as much to do with bullet placement as it does the bullet, if not more.

I just believe the 7mm is more versatile between the two calibers being discussed.


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I’ve shot a LOT of rounds through both and have had both for years. Toss up really. I do lean towards my 300 for bigger animals but only due to the load it shoots. 180 accubond in my 300 and a 180 Berger in the 7. The 7 outruns the 300.
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Old 09-24-2020, 11:47 AM   #31
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Wait, you can't do that with a 300??

I'd go with the 300.
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Personally, im a 300 fan.
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They're both great and if you don't reload among the best due to the hugh amount of factory ammo.

If you reload, I'd throw the 30 nosler or 300 prc in there as well to really step out with the heavies.

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to me the 300 mag is a better "big" game cartridge,,, and I'm not nocking the 7 mag,,, I like bigger heavy bullets most of the time,,,
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Both are great calibers and at the end of the day the IP needs to shoot what he is comfortable with and can shoot accurately.

I had to chuckle a little at the comparison between the two on Axis, pigs and Whitetail. Only because both of the calibers in question could be considered overkill on those smaller species.

That being said, I think the 7mm Magnum is a more versatile caliber in being able to shoot lighter weight bullets. As an example, you can load a 110 gr Barnes TTSX at 3500 fps if you want a fast, flat shooting bullet for smaller big game like Antelope, Deer etc.. Or, you can load it up with a 175 gr Barnes TSX and take it on your Moose hunt.

I personally shoot a 7mm RUM and my “go to” load is the Barnes 145 gr LRX. In Africa I loaded it with Barnes 160 gr TSX bullets and it hammered the largest of plains game animals with no issues. Oh, and as far as DRT? That has as much to do with bullet placement as it does the bullet, if not more.

I just believe the 7mm is more versatile between the two calibers being discussed.


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Old 09-25-2020, 06:59 PM   #37
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7mm are great. I’ve had outstanding success with 7mm-08 and 7-30 waters. But if I’m going with a 7mag or 300 mag I’m going big and going 300.
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Wait, you can't do that with a 300??



I'd go with the 300.


Of course not. Bullets from 110 grain to 240 grains is not a large enough range.


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Which ever gun you like the best, it is really a toss up between the two. I have a 300 WM that sits in the safe while my 7mm Rigby gets all of the action. Myself for 1 gun I would go 7mm with a cast twist and shoot the heaviest bullet I could get.
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I may be wrong, but I believe that is bc some guys buy "a big gun" and end up scared of it and flinch or whatever and make bad shots.
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Old 10-05-2020, 06:23 AM   #43
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.300 Win Mag, has been my go-to since 1977. Killed a truckload of deer with it and never felt I was overgunned.
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Old 10-05-2020, 01:27 PM   #45
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Old 10-05-2020, 08:08 PM   #46
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I thought is was the 7-08 that he referred to.....mostly having to do with the SST bullet and that it’s the most readily available factory load around. In other words the SST keeps him busy.

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I’d go with the .300 based on wanting a .257 Weatherby also, there’s just not a ton of difference between the 3 of them, with the 7mm being right in the middle.
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I shot Axis, WT, and pigs mostly and had no problem killing with the 7mm, but most were found at the end of a blood trail rather than where they were when I pulled the trigger. I've had more animals DRT from a 300wm, 35 whelen, 338 Fed, and 308 on a normal 10 ring hit.


Poor bullet selection
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Can’t go wrong either way. Both are over kill for 99% of game IMO


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Not because of the 7mag but because of the knuckleheads that think it will kill no matter where you hit
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