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Old 04-20-2017, 06:08 PM   #751
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:52 AM   #752
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I actually use the copper sulfide Algecide for water troughs. I used bleach when I first started in angelo several yrs ago and my deer didn't use them much. I don't like black because of the water heating up more. I have also taken a large bundle of copper wire and dropped in the tank. Copper is a natural algecide and I have never had an algae problem. Just my experience.
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I actually use the copper sulfide Algecide for water troughs. I used bleach when I first started in angelo several yrs ago and my deer didn't use them much. I don't like black because of the water heating up more. I have also taken a large bundle of copper wire and dropped in the tank. Copper is a natural algecide and I have never had an algae problem. Just my experience.


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I actually use the copper sulfide Algecide for water troughs. I used bleach when I first started in angelo several yrs ago and my deer didn't use them much. I don't like black because of the water heating up more. I have also taken a large bundle of copper wire and dropped in the tank. Copper is a natural algecide and I have never had an algae problem. Just my experience.
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:59 AM   #755
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Weird Jack. You must have some weird finicky deer. Our deer, turkey, bobcats, foxes, buzzards, coons, birds and anything else that moves on the place suck down our water all year with the light bleach mixture I listed above. Humper throws a mini pool chlorine tablet float in his. Same results. I not only see them on camera but watch them suck it down in person. Heck my buck in my avatar went straight to the water and spent 2-3 minutes at the trough before he came into corn and gave me a shot. We went to 550 gallons per blind versus 275 due to the usage and for less frequent fills.

On your black trough heat issue, did you actually test the water temps and compare or did you just roll with the "black camp shower concern theory" mentioned on tbh a few times here? I too was concerned about the black camp shower bag theory some folks have tossed around but never tested. So I tested it. The trough temp of a trough connected to a black tank was no different than a trough sitting by itself unconnected in the summer sun. The temperature of the trough was not affected significantly by the tote supply itself. It was more affected by the temps around the trough directly instead of the occasional dribble allowed in by the tank float imo. And I can't see a regular tote in the sun with a dribble every now and then cooling it down significantly. Either way, I still hung boards on the top and sides to keep coons off and to see if it made a difference. The trough temp difference with boards was still nill.

Now I'm not suggesting one way or the other is better because obviously they are using them both . I typed all this battling insomnia to suggest what you said about bleach and black tanks goes against everything we have experienced at 8 pens and 12 tanks on our place alone.... I'd imagine there are TBHer's that have similar experiences. Well I know a group down in Bracketville, (Cull and Archery1st) that does it because Cull gave me his bleach ratio and direction when we put them all in during early Spring 2014.

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I'm not saying one is better. Just another option, the bleach thing may have been total coincidence and since I couldn't ask them why they weren't drinking the water who knows if it's the reason or maybe I just put too much. Since then the copper product has been what I used and they have been drinking it. I did not scientifically test the water temp either, just a theory. Black in hot direct sun usually heats up things.

Like I said not saying one is better just throwing out a differ option to the masses

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Do y'all not have adequate windmill/well water ?
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Do y'all not have adequate windmill/well water ?


Sure we do... it's a working cattle ranch. However, the place is 4100 acres of which 2400 we can hunt, so the deer have to go a long ways to get it from some blinds. Up on our north fence side and where my best blind is, they would water on the neighbors side. We like to think having water on our north fence line pens keep them on our side. Plus, we hope the less energy they have to use to get water the more they have for body weight and horns.... One stop shop for water and food..

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Sure we do... it's a working cattle ranch. However, the place is 4100 acres of which 2400 we can hunt, so the deer have to go a long ways to get it from some blinds. Up on our north fence side and where my best blind is, they would water on the neighbors side. We like to think having water on our north fence line pens keep them on our side. Plus, we hope the less energy they have to use to get water the more they have for body weight and horns.... One stop shop for water and food..
Ok it all sounds great but seems more like a "feel good" measure that requires a lot of time and effort for minimal payout.

I like seeing all the pics of the redneck water setups though! Lol
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Ok it all sounds great but seems more like a "feel good" measure that requires a lot of time and effort for minimal payout.

If you say so........I killed my biggest archery buck last year with water dripping off his mouth. That's a pretty **** good payout in my book. It may not be a payout in inches like protein can be, but a payout as an attractant or keeping a deer at your feedpen is worth more to me than 5 more inches of bone.

Its a strategic move to try to keep the deer from going across the fence more than they need to. Some blinds are 1,000 yards from water so it is what it is. I understand that's not huge in a deer's grand scheme of thing but every little bit helps.

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Old 04-21-2017, 11:18 AM   #761
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And as far as time and effort.....

This dude dumps 275 gallons into my blind tote(s) in just over 2 minutes. Takes more effort to fill protein or corn..

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And for proof of my buck claim, here is the video. The left turn he makes is directly to my trough...and is where he is coming from when it cuts back to the video. Pretty good payout..


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Old 04-21-2017, 11:54 AM   #762
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I'm with Jason on this one. Unless you have water in every 100-200 acre section then I think these are great attractors. Give them everything in a one stop shop espcially during the hottest times of the yr. Less chance a buck has to travel more to get what he needs. Also on most of the places I have hunted the livestock tends to hang around the water troughs and in early season I like hunting near water as much as feed if the space allows for it.
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:13 PM   #764
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141 7/8 was the initial......but a re-score at home on my desk and not on a tailgate put him just a shade over 142 at 142 2/8. He easily netted Pope but I haven't registered any..
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141 7/8 was the initial......but a re-score at home on my desk and not on a tailgate put him just a shade over 142 at 142 2/8. He easily netted Pope but I haven't registered any..
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Also on most of the places I have hunted the livestock tends to hang around the water troughs and in early season I like hunting near water as much as feed if the space allows for it.

Another great point I forgot to mention..
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I don't doubt they use it if it's there.
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:55 PM   #769
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Textbook shot Jason. Love how you let him put that front leg forward! I live for that shot right there!
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Nice video editing Smart.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:02 PM   #771
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[quote=Smart;12372941]And as far as time and effort.....

This dude dumps 275 gallons into my blind tote(s) in just over 2 minutes.

I cant agree more on that. When I first got on this new lease i thought filling them up would take forever.. Hell no. Our pump is super fast. Worst part is holding the hose down because of how powerful it is! LOL
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I cant agree more on that. When I first got on this new lease i thought filling them up would take forever.. Hell no. Our pump is super fast. Worst part is holding the hose down because of how powerful it is! LOL
That ain't no lie. If it pops outta the tote it can get a little western......
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Or when they thought it was funny to punk the new guy (me) , and let the suction end get stuck to the bottom of the tank to build all that pressure and then lift it up and almost knock me off the trough! I got them back though no worries...
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That ain't no lie. If it pops outta the tote it can get a little western......
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No sir... Panasonic HD on a wall mount..
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Fellas in camp sent this to me.. killed about 15 foot from our firepit

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Crap.. just got this from Humper

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Most of my feeders are within 200-300yrs of a water trough but out of 4 best deer taken on our place only one was within 1/2 mile of water. Need some extra money to try out a setup or two in some of those farther from water to see if it helps numbers any
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Looks like a dry couple weeks ahead.
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Looks like a dry couple weeks ahead.


Yup. That's a kick in the nuts right there. Hope that changes soon.

Glad the place is green.... for this important time of the year
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Yup. That's a kick in the nuts right there. Hope that changes soon.

Glad the place is green.... for this important time of the year
Yep and 90s +
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Old 04-23-2017, 11:21 PM   #783
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Got out to the lease in Water Valley this weekend with the kids. Put out another 3,000 lbs of protein and got another feeder set up in an area that I think is going to be primo. Everything is greened up, fingers crossed it stays that way. Saw a ton of deer and turkey. Couldn't ask for better weather to get a little work done.











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Goin out to the lease this weekend to fill protein and do some work. Anyone checked their cameras lately and seen any antler growth??
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:52 PM   #786
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Headed out this weekend as well, hopefully get to squeeze in some turkey hunting. I thought about putting a camera up just for the heck of it, but I will probably just wait until my normal June, July to put them up. It sure is tempting though.
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Headed out this weekend as well, hopefully get to squeeze in some turkey hunting. I thought about putting a camera up just for the heck of it, but I will probably just wait until my normal June, July to put them up. It sure is tempting though.

I checked mine a few weeks ago and had several bucks showing nubs and 2 of them had about 2-3" bases. Gonna check this weekend and see what they look like now!
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Goin out to the lease this weekend to fill protein and do some work. Anyone checked their cameras lately and seen any antler growth??
They start replacing/growing as soon as they shed but there is nothing on my wireless cameras worth talking about yet....nubs to a couple inches.. Come on rain and July

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I just got back 4 days ago, nothing but nubs. Did stick a turk though. Yeah Im braggin.
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Went down last weekend as well green pasture and Turks everywhere. Got to here a group of 20 jakes gobbling their butts off which was pretty neat. Stuck a few hogs and put some buckshot in others. Buddy got two long beards.
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Nice!!

I haven't seen more than about 2" growth so far. It does appear that feeder activity has picked up this week. I'm sure a lot of the green growth isn't quite as tender and new as it was but pasture sure looks good still.
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Nice!!

I haven't seen more than about 2" growth so far. It does appear that feeder activity has picked up this week. I'm sure a lot of the green growth isn't quite as tender and new as it was but pasture sure looks good still.

Who are you and please give jack back his phone?!!..
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Hope I'm rich one of these days
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Nice looking feeder does the bottom control unit come with the eliminator plate or is it closed off when not feeding only bad thing about my stand and fill feeders is having to get in the ground to have to work on them but sure beats climbing a ladder
Yes and timer is inside of lid on top not under the bottom.
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