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Old 10-12-2016, 08:31 AM   #1
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I got drawn for this archery hunt Nov 18-22 and as I understand it, this is the first year for this to be administered via TPWD.
I am reading thru the old posts, but also wonder how much different this hunt will be from prior years archery hunts.

I have never been to LAWR and wanted to see who else got drawn and is planning to go.
It also looks like you can't take non hunting guests on this hunt, so
I am interested in joining up with some other TBH'ers for this hunt

who is going?

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Old 10-12-2016, 08:32 AM   #2
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I was also drawn, and I know absolutely nothing about Laguna Atascosa. Maybe we can team up. My son will be coming as well. I have experience hunting nilgai, just not at Laguna.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:40 AM   #3
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I got drawn as well. Good to see others on here were drawn too. I have never been there and never hunted nilgai. Should be alot of fun! Adam 325-518-4577
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:48 AM   #4
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I am pending second draw for this hunt. I am curious of those who got drawn, what is the time frame you have to accept and pay for the permit before it goes to second draw? I am curious mainly because these refuge hunts have so many more spots available I can see where there might be a chance for a second draw.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:49 AM   #5
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the note says i have until 10/27 to purchase the permit
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:51 AM   #6
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the note says i have until 10/27 to purchase the permit
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the note says i have until 10/27 to purchase the permit
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:20 PM   #8
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I got drawn for 11/25-11/29
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Old 10-12-2016, 02:09 PM   #9
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I got drawn for the 18-22 as well. I know two others from around here that were also.
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Old 10-12-2016, 03:13 PM   #10
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The nilgai at LA were culled pretty heavily this year and last year by helicopter. They shot about 80 this year and I think 200 last year. It might be some pretty tough hunting this season.
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Old 10-12-2016, 03:28 PM   #11
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The nilgai at LA were culled pretty heavily this year and last year by helicopter. They shot about 80 this year and I think 200 last year. It might be some pretty tough hunting this season.
I knew they did this, but I never read any total numbers. Thanks.

I'll either be at LRGV Nov 17-20 or Laguna Nov 25-29. Got drawn for both, but will only choose 1. Still undecided.
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Old 10-12-2016, 03:54 PM   #12
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I got drawn for Laguna 18th-22nd not sure my dad can make it so i will most likely be solo. Iv never hunted Laguna or nilgai. If anybody would like to Team up 8302990248
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:25 PM   #13
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Me my brother and a Friend got drawn too , 9 hr drive there .... Think it will be worth it ? I didn't know about the culling they did
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:36 PM   #14
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I got drawn the same date. Kinda sucks they would do a culling before they opened it for hunters that would've taken care of the problem. Also got drawn for LRGV in January, not sure what to do
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:40 PM   #15
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I also got drawn with my brother and a friend. Should be a good time.
So I guess it will be alot of walking.
Looks like a great place.
Name is Justin Norton
If anyone has any info on the area I would love to know.
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I got drawn the same date. Kinda sucks they would do a culling before they opened it for hunters that would've taken care of the problem. Also got drawn for LRGV in January, not sure what to do
Hunters don't kill near enough to help.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:20 PM   #17
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Hunters don't kill near enough to help.
Yup. Laguna has been hunted for the past who knows how many years. That's why they brought in helicopters.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:26 PM   #18
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Helicopter culling before a hunt...and sounds like they drew a ton of people....good luck if yall decide to go....you will need it!
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:37 PM   #19
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Helicopter culling before a hunt...and sounds like they drew a ton of people....good luck if yall decide to go....you will need it!
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Old 10-13-2016, 08:29 AM   #20
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I was also drawn for this hunt and will be alone. Never been there but I may have a local contact, trying to locate him 817.368.3337

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Old 10-13-2016, 04:12 PM   #21
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my dad and I will be there.
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Old 10-14-2016, 07:39 AM   #22
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We got drawn, anyone know how the population is after the cull? Probably gonna call and talk to a park ranger this afternoon, 9 hr drive ahead of us if we make it down there.
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Old 10-14-2016, 08:54 PM   #23
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We got drawn, anyone know how the population is after the cull? Probably gonna call and talk to a park ranger this afternoon, 9 hr drive ahead of us if we make it down there.
What did they say ?
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Old 10-16-2016, 06:09 PM   #24
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What did they say ?
Never got around to calling them. Remind me Monday Jo.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:17 PM   #25
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Just found out I got drawn for the 11/18-22nd. All I know about Nilgai is that they're tough!
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:07 PM   #26
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My brother (nannyslammer) and I have been hunting the refuge for the past 5 years and killed 8 nilgai during that time with rifle and bow. The nilgai population has since decreased drastically. The first year we hunted for 4 days and saw anywhere from 20-30 nilgai a day. Last year which was our last due to the eradication of nilgai by helicopters. We had 4 guys in our group and only saw 1 calf nilgai in 4 days of hunting. It's a very tough and challenging hunt but can be very rewarding if in the right spot. Good luck to all who are going and watch out for rattlesnakes. There is no shortage of them.


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Old 10-19-2016, 07:35 PM   #27
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My brother (nannyslammer) and I have been hunting the refuge for the past 5 years and killed 8 nilgai during that time with rifle and bow. The nilgai population has since decreased drastically. The first year we hunted for 4 days and saw anywhere from 20-30 nilgai a day. Last year which was our last due to the eradication of nilgai by helicopters. We had 4 guys in our group and only saw 1 calf nilgai in 4 days of hunting. It's a very tough and challenging hunt but can be very rewarding if in the right spot. Good luck to all who are going and watch out for rattlesnakes. There is no shortage of them.


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Agreed. I've been hunting there for at least 10 years. Been seeing more deer and a lot less nilgai the last two. This tick eradication quarantine is all bogus. Good friend of mine has cattle within the quarantine zone and has his cattle checked often. None of those squirly ticks found in over a year.
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:57 PM   #28
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Agreed. I've been hunting there for at least 10 years. Been seeing more deer and a lot less nilgai the last two. This tick eradication quarantine is all bogus. Good friend of mine has cattle within the quarantine zone and has his cattle checked often. None of those squirly ticks found in over a year.


Yeah in all honesty it has been within the last two years that the nilgai population has been very minimal out there. And I agree I haven't seen more deer until last year and seen some really really nice bucks.


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Old 10-20-2016, 07:28 PM   #29
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My brother (nannyslammer) and I have been hunting the refuge for the past 5 years and killed 8 nilgai during that time with rifle and bow. The nilgai population has since decreased drastically. The first year we hunted for 4 days and saw anywhere from 20-30 nilgai a day. Last year which was our last due to the eradication of nilgai by helicopters. We had 4 guys in our group and only saw 1 calf nilgai in 4 days of hunting. It's a very tough and challenging hunt but can be very rewarding if in the right spot. Good luck to all who are going and watch out for rattlesnakes. There is no shortage of them.


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wish you and the crew well with whatever is next. same story here 2 yr's ago saw one on stand, last yr none. feels like it has been done, like we rode a good horse into the ground. never looked forward so much to a place that handed out regular whoppings

when one door closes another opens, finally reached a point (retired) where i can do a two week trip spring turkey and another in fall for deer doing DIY public in Nebraska.

thinking there is going to be a large turnover of people in future, good luck to all the old faces and the new also.

final tally 2nilgai bow, 2 with gun, & whitetail buck the last day i hunted gonna miss the old girl.
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Old 10-20-2016, 08:31 PM   #30
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Agreed. I've been hunting there for at least 10 years. Been seeing more deer and a lot less nilgai the last two. This tick eradication quarantine is all bogus. Good friend of mine has cattle within the quarantine zone and has his cattle checked often. None of those squirly ticks found in over a year.
The point of the quarantine is to keep it that way.
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wish you and the crew well with whatever is next. same story here 2 yr's ago saw one on stand, last yr none. feels like it has been done, like we rode a good horse into the ground. never looked forward so much to a place that handed out regular whoppings



when one door closes another opens, finally reached a point (retired) where i can do a two week trip spring turkey and another in fall for deer doing DIY public in Nebraska.



thinking there is going to be a large turnover of people in future, good luck to all the old faces and the new also.



final tally 2nilgai bow, 2 with gun, & whitetail buck the last day i hunted gonna miss the old girl.


Yeah we found a better alternative for nilgai. Changed phones and I don't have your number anymore. Shoot me a text and we'll talk.


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Old 10-21-2016, 08:52 PM   #32
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Man, I hate to lose my 10 points for exotics, but it sure doesn't seem very promising. Guess I should've done some research before I put in for it!
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Man, I hate to lose my 10 points for exotics, but it sure doesn't seem very promising. Guess I should've done some research before I put in for it!
You won't loose 10 exotic points. The NWR hunts are there own category's and this is the first year. The tpwd exotic is a different category.
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Old 10-24-2016, 10:22 AM   #34
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I got drawn for the 18-22 as well. I know two others from around here that were also.
I was also drawn for the hunt
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:15 PM   #35
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Hope to meet some of you TBH brothers there. I will be camping at the county park.


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Old 10-28-2016, 11:28 AM   #36
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Just found out that I got drawn today.. Is it worth going all the way down if the Nilgai are that scarce? I appreciate any input. I will also be probably going solo if someone wants to team up. Also curious how far should one go in?
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Old 10-28-2016, 12:19 PM   #37
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I just got drawn on second draw for archery exotic. I too am debating even going. I did hear the cull was only in areas closed to hunting. So maybe it isn't too bad.
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Old 10-28-2016, 03:41 PM   #38
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I just got drawn on second draw for archery exotic. I too am debating even going. I did hear the cull was only in areas closed to hunting. So maybe it isn't too bad.


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Old 10-28-2016, 05:06 PM   #39
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Honestly I want to say it was on here. Perhaps one of the other threads for the deer or rifle hunts. I believe someone called the management down there and was told that the nilgai are plentiful in the hunt compartments and culled from areas closed to hunting. To be clear i have never been there or talked to anyone down there so I have no proof of that.


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Old 10-28-2016, 05:27 PM   #40
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Only reason I'm asking is because the management is probably going to tell people that just so they don't discourage people from coming and them losing money by not having as many hunters. I don't honestly see why they would just cull from certain units when the fever tick can be carried by those in the allowed hunt units. It's obvious that hunters in the past haven't shot enough to make a dent in the population so therefore they hired the helicopters. But why would they limit them on how many nilgai can be shot and what areas?


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Old 10-28-2016, 09:38 PM   #41
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been there but in my experience helicopter surveys/ culls are kind of overstated. I hunt a few times a year on a place near dilley. They do a survey/ hog hunt via helicopter every year and rarely do they see a fraction of the bucks and population count is always vastly smaller than camera surveys. So unless they really spent the money on multiple days flying and culling, I doubt that had a too detrimental affect. Just my opinion.


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Old 10-28-2016, 10:19 PM   #42
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My brother in law and I were also drawn, for the dec. 2-6 hunt, and have been doing as much research as we can. My brother in law spoke to a park worker and was told the cull was done on the property north of the channel.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:37 PM   #43
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I me and a buddy we're also drawn for nov 18-22.

Nobody has mentioned hogs. Is this place have a good hog population?


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Old 10-29-2016, 07:19 AM   #44
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Yep. Good amount of bacon there.
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Only reason I'm asking is because the management is probably going to tell people that just so they don't discourage people from coming and them losing money by not having as many hunters. I don't honestly see why they would just cull from certain units when the fever tick can be carried by those in the allowed hunt units. It's obvious that hunters in the past haven't shot enough to make a dent in the population so therefore they hired the helicopters. But why would they limit them on how many nilgai can be shot and what areas?


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They only culled in unit 4, which is closed to hunting. They are allowing hunters to attempt to clean up the populations in other units before deciding if they need to cull hunting units after season. That info came from the visitor center staff.


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Old 10-29-2016, 08:46 AM   #46
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They only culled in unit 4, which is closed to hunting. They are allowing hunters to attempt to clean up the populations in other units before deciding if they need to cull hunting units after season. That info came from the visitor center staff.


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I don't buy that info one bit. Hunters have never been able to make a dent in the population so why would they decide to leave some for hunters during an actual quarantine?
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Old 10-29-2016, 02:10 PM   #47
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Just posting what I was told and what I read.

http://m.brownsvilleherald.com/news/....html?mode=jqm

I guess we will see what we see when the dates arrive. I am not gonna let it dampen my hunt though.



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Old 10-29-2016, 05:31 PM   #48
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I got drawn for the Nov 18-22. I paid for the permit but now I have to work those days. Is it allowed to let someone else have the permit?
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Old 10-29-2016, 10:01 PM   #49
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I got drawn for the Nov 18-22. I paid for the permit but now I have to work those days. Is it allowed to let someone else have the permit?
Nope. Only the person drawn can use it.
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Old 10-30-2016, 01:04 PM   #50
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