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Old 02-15-2017, 07:16 PM   #1
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wmv video Video Equipment I Use for Self-Filmed Hunts - TBH Video Journal 27

One of the most frequent questions I get is about what equipment I use to film hunts. After I shot my buck at Killin Tree last month, I got footage of the equipment I use and how I typically set it up.

Most of this is new gear that I purchased since the previous season, and part of the reason I started creating the TBH Video Journal is to help more quickly familiarize myself with the cameras, setting and features. I'm obviously still learning!

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Old 02-15-2017, 07:39 PM   #3
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Just watched and left a comment, thanks for all your great videos!!


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That was cool Boss! Come a long way since the 1st DVD production, "It's All About The Video".

I really like that Osmo. A couple of those on the back side would be the bomb!
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Thanks for sharing.

I need to start the using my go Pro for a reverse angle shot at my feeder
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I gotta have me one of those Osmo's!! Love my go pro's but that thing is AWESOME! Very nice Michael!
One question...
Do you do anything special for scent control on the camera/tripods/mounts especially on those that are in your shooting lanes for reverse angle and such? I've had a terribly hard time with animals spooking from my go pros when they get close to 'em.
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I gotta have me one of those Osmo's!! Love my go pro's but that thing is AWESOME! Very nice Michael!
One question...
Do you do anything special for scent control on the camera/tripods/mounts especially on those that are in your shooting lanes for reverse angle and such? I've had a terribly hard time with animals spooking from my go pros when they get close to 'em.


They make gimbals for go pros.

I haven't looked at them in a while, maybe someone else or Michael can comment on a good one.

Not sure if you can remotely pan however.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:22 PM   #9
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Great video
I enjoyed the info you shared, looking forward to your next one.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:53 PM   #11
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Isn't there a video forum on TBH for this?
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Old 02-15-2017, 10:12 PM   #12
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Hey Michael that's really cool. I love filming the hunt. I just don't like talking. I sound goofy. Anyway good stuff. Keep um coming. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 02-15-2017, 10:59 PM   #13
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Just watched and left a comment, thanks for all your great videos!!
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I gotta have me one of those Osmo's!! Love my go pro's but that thing is AWESOME! Very nice Michael!
One question...
Do you do anything special for scent control on the camera/tripods/mounts especially on those that are in your shooting lanes for reverse angle and such? I've had a terribly hard time with animals spooking from my go pros when they get close to 'em.
I haven't had much of a problem with that in South Texas, , but I'm still in experimental stage with it.
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They make gimbals for go pros.

I haven't looked at them in a while, maybe someone else or Michael can comment on a good one.

Not sure if you can remotely pan however.
They do make some good gimbals for GoPro (and any other camera) but I don't believe any others can be operated remotely.

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Great video
I enjoyed the info you shared, looking forward to your next one.
Thanks for posting it
I'm already editing the next one! Hopefully I can have it up in a couple of days!
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Hey Michael that's really cool. I love filming the hunt. I just don't like talking. I sound goofy. Anyway good stuff. Keep um coming. Thanks for sharing!
Check out our buddy, Robby Ayala'a videos! He has a great style and tells a story with images and music. Ore than with words!
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Isn't there a video forum on TBH for this?
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Any sneak peeks on the topic of the next video your working on?

I'll second Robby Ayala's videos, I watched him on YouTube and that's what brought me to this sight. Great content on his page.


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They make gimbals for go pros.

I haven't looked at them in a while, maybe someone else or Michael can comment on a good one.

Not sure if you can remotely pan however.
Panning and zooming is what I am most interested in... remotely. I can control my go pros with my cell or with the go pro remote, but go pro's don't zoom...
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Very cool stuff. How many backpacks do you have to carry out in the morning for all the camera equipment? And how early do you have to get out there to set it all up?
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:08 AM   #17
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Very cool stuff. How many backpacks do you have to carry out in the morning for all the camera equipment? And how early do you have to get out there to set it all up?

LOL! It normally sets up pretty quickly (other than the camera tree arm, which can take a few minutes, but I leave it up the whole weekend once set.)

My backpack can get pretty heavy!
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Any sneak peeks on the topic of the next video your working on?

I'll second Robby Ayala's videos, I watched him on YouTube and that's what brought me to this sight. Great content on his page.


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The next one is a return to the Hunting Camp series from CDLC during MLD season. I'll also have some duck hunts and sausage making videos. I have an early season Mule Deer hunt project that I need to finish, as well.
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You just keep raising the bar. The ability to pan a remote camera is really cool. Thanks for taking the time to make that video. Very educational.
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I did a bunch of "research" last night... Did you mention that you use an Osmo Pro (with the interchangeable lenses)? I'd love to go that route, but likely will get the "+" first and give that a whirl...

Like you, my backpack get's pretty heavy and it takes me a good 30 minutes to get set up ready to shoot (my bow)... I have literally hundreds of shots on video, slo-mo's, and such, but just cannot bring myself to put it out there on the u-tube web... Me n Chew have had some great hunts together where he did the shootin' and I did the filmin'... That Osmo will bring a whole new dimension to self filmed hunts! REALLY appreciate you taking the time to post up this video (but my wife ain't too happy about it
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I did a bunch of "research" last night... Did you mention that you use an Osmo Pro (with the interchangeable lenses)? I'd love to go that route, but likely will get the "+" first and give that a whirl...

Like you, my backpack get's pretty heavy and it takes me a good 30 minutes to get set up ready to shoot (my bow)... I have literally hundreds of shots on video, slo-mo's, and such, but just cannot bring myself to put it out there on the u-tube web... Me n Chew have had some great hunts together where he did the shootin' and I did the filmin'... That Osmo will bring a whole new dimension to self filmed hunts! REALLY appreciate you taking the time to post up this video (but my wife ain't too happy about it


You should post that stuff to YouTube, i'd really like to watch some of them. This weekend I'll be doing a "road to deer season" video trying to get used to my equipment in preparation for next year. I may even try and take a hog.


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I did a bunch of "research" last night... Did you mention that you use an Osmo Pro (with the interchangeable lenses)? I'd love to go that route, but likely will get the "+" first and give that a whirl...

Like you, my backpack get's pretty heavy and it takes me a good 30 minutes to get set up ready to shoot (my bow)... I have literally hundreds of shots on video, slo-mo's, and such, but just cannot bring myself to put it out there on the u-tube web... Me n Chew have had some great hunts together where he did the shootin' and I did the filmin'... That Osmo will bring a whole new dimension to self filmed hunts! REALLY appreciate you taking the time to post up this video (but my wife ain't too happy about it
No, I just use the standard Zemuse X3 (the Pro is X5, I believe) camera that came with my Inspire 1. I can't (yet) justify the Pro version for the Osmo or the Inspire 1! It's pricey!

The X3 only allows 2x (digital) zoom. I believe there is a Z3 that has 7x zoom (3.5x optical plus 2x digital) that would probably be better suited for hunting, but I have other "needs" in that price range ($900 for camera alone) that I'd acquire before I upgrade the Osmo/Inspire.

I have a TON of video footage that has never made it to the web, for one reason or another...mostly because it can be time consuming and tedious to edit! I could probably create a "Throwback" series with some of my old footage that I'm now capturing off my Hi-8, D8 and MiniDV tapes from as far back as 1994! I have to get through the new stuff first, though!
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I cannot get the video to work on FB, here or youboob. Wth??

I'll keep trying and yes I have wifi.
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I'll keep trying and yes I have wifi.
Your work have me blocked?! Maybe a bunch of anti-hunters on staff
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Great job and info. What editing software do you use?
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Well, I'm in McAllen. Maybe the wifi took off today?
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Adobe Premiere CC
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Dang you Michael!!!!! You are gonna cost me a lot of money and make my wife mad.

Great video and thanks for all the info.
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Dang you Michael!!!!! You are gonna cost me a lot of money and make my wife mad.

Great video and thanks for all the info.

Just tell her it's all so you can get good pics and video of family events and stuff! Surely she'll buy that!
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Just tell her it's all so you can get good pics and video of family events and stuff! Surely she'll buy that!
Hey mine "sort of" did... Reminded her that summer is coming up and the grandkids will be big enough this year to ride their 4-wheelers and play in the pool without "floaties"... suggested I get the Osmo+ (that's the Z3+2D) so I could have it for the "Easter festivities"... She didn't bite...
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I actually have every shot I've taken on an animal on our plase we had out West since 1995... and there's some WHOPPER misses too. I originally started doing it mainly so I could review the shots prior to tracking an animal, then got into slo-mo's and such. Got several rifle shots from others that I videoed when the lighting conditions were just right and actually captured the bullet in flight and impact... Guess when I get too old (or too broke) to hunt, I'll start reviewing, editing and producing them...
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I will let you know how that goes. lol

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Great information Michael, the osmo's are awesome, have you tried the app called vertical studio? This app "tracks" whatever you frame within the osmo with a pinch on the screen and will follow it, it sure makes following the animals smooth and easy.
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That's pretty nice of you to give away all of your secrets!

Thanks for sharing!
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Finally got it to work. Can someone loan me 10 grand please.

Great stuff.
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I was gonna ask you for a loan.
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Great video and thanks for all the info.
This ^

My birthday wishlist just grew exponentially! Momma gonna have to pick up a 2nd job!


Great video Michael. Thanks for taking the time to share with us. Planning to do some more videoing with my boys this spring chasing pigs and turkeys. Given me some ideas wanna go out n try now.
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I actually have every shot I've taken on an animal on our plase we had out West since 1995... and there's some WHOPPER misses too. I originally started doing it mainly so I could review the shots prior to tracking an animal, then got into slo-mo's and such. Got several rifle shots from others that I videoed when the lighting conditions were just right and actually captured the bullet in flight and impact... Guess when I get too old (or too broke) to hunt, I'll start reviewing, editing and producing them...
Piecing together just the shots into one video would make a good one!
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Great information Michael, the osmo's are awesome, have you tried the app called vertical studio? This app "tracks" whatever you frame within the osmo with a pinch on the screen and will follow it, it sure makes following the animals smooth and easy.
I'll look that up. Thanks for the info!
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That's pretty nice of you to give away all of your secrets!

Thanks for sharing!
That just forces me to develop more secrets!
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Great stuff.
Don't forget the batteries!
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My birthday wishlist just grew exponentially! Momma gonna have to pick up a 2nd job!


Great video Michael. Thanks for taking the time to share with us. Planning to do some more videoing with my boys this spring chasing pigs and turkeys. Given me some ideas wanna go out n try now.
I'm hoping we can chase some turkeys in the spring, too! Hogs always offer good rehearsal for the equipment!
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Great information Michael, the osmo's are awesome, have you tried the app called vertical studio? This app "tracks" whatever you frame within the osmo with a pinch on the screen and will follow it, it sure makes following the animals smooth and easy.


That sounds pretty cool, I can't afford another toy right now
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I think all the camera angles are pretty dang cool. When I was heavy into self filming my hunts, I just used one high end consumer video camera. I had to be sure to get all my b-roll and other pre and post shot footage and then do some editing magic....I had a a lot of people asking me how many cameras I used to film my hunts. Lol.

Keep up the good work. It's nice to see your pretty face so often these days.
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Lol. Make that $12k please
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I think all the camera angles are pretty dang cool. When I was heavy into self filming my hunts, I just used one high end consumer video camera. I had to be sure to get all my b-roll and other pre and post shot footage and then do some editing magic....I had a a lot of people asking me how many cameras I used to film my hunts. Lol.

Keep up the good work. It's nice to see your pretty face so often these days.
Yep, I did the one camera b-roll thing, too. It still requires plenty of post-shot re-creation of some things! Much of my "Drill One at 33" from last year was filmed in a popup blind in my driveway here in Hallettsville.

You should get back into it, Skinny! You'll appreciate the effort when your girls (and you) get older!
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Yep, I did the one camera b-roll thing, too. It still requires plenty of post-shot re-creation of some things! Much of my "Drill One at 33" from last year was filmed in a popup blind in my driveway here in Hallettsville.



You should get back into it, Skinny! You'll appreciate the effort when your girls (and you) get older!


I can't say I ever filmed anything in my driveway, but hey you gotta get the footage you need! Lol

My biggest mistake was upgrading to a higher end camera...it was not very compatible with the computer I was using to edit my footage....which was just a Toshiba Satellite and Pinnacle Studio software. Back when Hogdude was still around, he could hunt, film, kill, and edit all in one night and have a fresh YT vid posted for his subscribers ready to view in the morning. It was easy easy.

The new camera had HD footage and it would take me forever to render files, edit, create my movie, etc. My computer would crash halfway through an upload to YT almost every time. That painful editing experience kinda took the wind out of my sails as I'd had it so easy in the past.

I gave my old camera to my Dad and it was stolen...so going back to it wasn't an option.

Anyway, that was kinda the demise of ole Hogdude1234. Haha

I've got a GoPro now, and am filming kill shots, so I guess the fire is starting to rekindle a bit, but I don't see myself going full bore filming everything anytime soon.

Maybe a computer upgrade in the future will have me back in the swing of things.

Keep up the good work!
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Old 02-16-2017, 09:30 PM   #45
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One of the most frequent questions I get is about what equipment I use to film hunts. After I shot my buck at Killin Tree last month, I got footage of the equipment I use and how I typically set it up.

Most of this is new gear that I purchased since the previous season, and part of the reason I started creating the TBH Video Journal is to help more quickly familiarize myself with the cameras, setting and features. I'm obviously still learning!

Video Equipment I Use for Self-Filmed Hunts (Sony A7Sii and DJI Osmo) TBHVJ 27 - YouTube
4K? How do you see what your shot of yourself on the A7 cause the reverse shots look out of focus?
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I can't say I ever filmed anything in my driveway, but hey you gotta get the footage you need! Lol

My biggest mistake was upgrading to a higher end camera...it was not very compatible with the computer I was using to edit my footage....which was just a Toshiba Satellite and Pinnacle Studio software. Back when Hogdude was still around, he could hunt, film, kill, and edit all in one night and have a fresh YT vid posted for his subscribers ready to view in the morning. It was easy easy.

The new camera had HD footage and it would take me forever to render files, edit, create my movie, etc. My computer would crash halfway through an upload to YT almost every time. That painful editing experience kinda took the wind out of my sails as I'd had it so easy in the past.

I gave my old camera to my Dad and it was stolen...so going back to it wasn't an option.

Anyway, that was kinda the demise of ole Hogdude1234. Haha

I've got a GoPro now, and am filming kill shots, so I guess the fire is starting to rekindle a bit, but I don't see myself going full bore filming everything anytime soon.

Maybe a computer upgrade in the future will have me back in the swing of things.

Keep up the good work!


My computer is the main reason why I never used my cameras to do any film making, it's a Lenovo and it is not the best for video editing. I will use it this season until I can get a MacBook or something like that.


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4K? How do you see what your shot of yourself on the A7 cause the reverse shots look out of focus?


If I'm not mistaken his reverse shot footage is a lower quality that was saved to his phone because something happened with the osmo.


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Thanks for the video. I actually just started looking into using DSLR cameras for video. I'm interested in what you have found you like about using yours VS. like a standard video camera? Also what lens size have you found that seems to work good for 20-30 yards shots? What do you think is a good entry level camera?
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I can't say I ever filmed anything in my driveway, but hey you gotta get the footage you need! Lol

My biggest mistake was upgrading to a higher end camera...it was not very compatible with the computer I was using to edit my footage....which was just a Toshiba Satellite and Pinnacle Studio software. Back when Hogdude was still around, he could hunt, film, kill, and edit all in one night and have a fresh YT vid posted for his subscribers ready to view in the morning. It was easy easy.

The new camera had HD footage and it would take me forever to render files, edit, create my movie, etc. My computer would crash halfway through an upload to YT almost every time. That painful editing experience kinda took the wind out of my sails as I'd had it so easy in the past.

I gave my old camera to my Dad and it was stolen...so going back to it wasn't an option.

Anyway, that was kinda the demise of ole Hogdude1234. Haha

I've got a GoPro now, and am filming kill shots, so I guess the fire is starting to rekindle a bit, but I don't see myself going full bore filming everything anytime soon.

Maybe a computer upgrade in the future will have me back in the swing of things.

Keep up the good work!
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My computer is the main reason why I never used my cameras to do any film making, it's a Lenovo and it is not the best for video editing. I will use it this season until I can get a MacBook or something like that.


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I ran out of steam for a long time after finishing up the DVD we did in 2006. I lost the desire to edit for a few years, although I still pretty much filmed kill shots with very little b-roll.

Shane's story is why I normally advise against going with 4k. For most, it will require a costly computer upgrade to edit the files, is a processor and storage hog, and most people will never get full use of it for home or YouTube videos. The manufacturers push it as a great feature, but for most it can actually be a detriment.
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4K? How do you see what your shot of yourself on the A7 cause the reverse shots look out of focus?
As I've mentioned several times, I'm still learning to use the equipment. The Video Journal was pretty much born of me wanting to get familiar and experiment with new equipment.

One of my biggest struggles is filming "selfies" (or first person or "vlog" style) with this A7sii and lens combo. With no articulating LCD (which I mentioned in the vid) the only ways I can see what I'm filming is with an external monitor (not practical for this type of field work) or with the phone ap. I'm trying to utilize that more frequently because of the focus issues you mentioned.

The 24-70 lens is also a contributing factor, IMO, even 24mm is too "long" for handheld "vlog" videos at arm's length, and that probably hampers the auto-focus.

As I mentioned in the video, I want to do a full review of the pros and cons of using the A7sii for self-filmed hunting video. Lack of fully articulating screen is a definite negative.

I started using the Osmo again for much of the first person shots, but it struggles in low light which is when much of the "hunting camp" action occurs.

I do shoot some footage in 4k when I think I may want to reframe in post, but mostly I shoot 1080. I love the high frame rate for slow mo of the shot, which is only available at 1080.
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If I'm not mistaken his reverse shot footage is a lower quality that was saved to his phone because something happened with the osmo.


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I believe he's actually referring to the "selfie" footage from the Sony rather than the reverse angle from the Osmo.

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Thanks for the video. I actually just started looking into using DSLR cameras for video. I'm interested in what you have found you like about using yours VS. like a standard video camera? Also what lens size have you found that seems to work good for 20-30 yards shots? What do you think is a good entry level camera?
DSLR (and mirrorless) poses many challenges, especially for self-filmed hunts. I'm going to do a separate video on choosing the most important features for self filming hunts. DSLR vs camcorder and importance (or lack thereof) of 4K vs 1080 are definite talking points.

As for lenses, I think 70-200 is good for bowhunting ranges (20-30 yards). Inside of 20, you can get away with a little shorter (especially on cropped sensors) but outside of about 50 yards even the 200mm starts feeling a little short.

Thanks for all the comments and questions! Keep them coming...They give me additional ideas for content!
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DSLR (and mirrorless) poses many challenges, especially for self-filmed hunts. I'm going to do a separate video on choosing the most important features for self filming hunts. DSLR vs camcorder and importance (or lack thereof) of 4K vs 1080 are definite talking points.

As for lenses, I think 70-200 is good for bowhunting ranges (20-30 yards). Inside of 20, you can get away with a little shorter (especially on cropped sensors) but outside of about 50 yards even the 200mm starts feeling a little short.

Thanks for all the comments and questions! Keep them coming...They give me additional ideas for content! [/quote]


Thanks. I will be looking forward to that video



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