Age these two bucks

[12thman]

Eight and Ten point. Mason County.
I'm thinking 4.5 because of a little sag in the belly.
Thoughts?

[TJShockler]

both are 3.5

[HunterU]

I'm saying 4

[sbushee]

3

[BuckBass79]

4

[JJtomball]

both are 3.5

Agree.
Have any head up pics. The stance those are in make the belly look bigger.

[deerwatcher51]

In the first pic they look 4.5 but in the other pics, they look younger.

[Curtis32]

I would say 3. I don't see more indication on the front to be a 4and not enough indication all around on the bucks to be a 4.