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Old 01-22-2018, 02:23 PM   #1
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Default Gun safe opinions? Brands and models

Going to be in the market for a safe at the end of the month. Going to be for guns and important docs

Looking for experiences on different brands and models. Looking at anything from a 40ish -60ish gun safe. Going to be installed in the garage

I want a traditional rotary type lock, no electronic lock.

What do y'all have, neat features, lights, plugs, etc. customer service!!

Budget ranges from $1000-$2000

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Old 01-22-2018, 02:25 PM   #2
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Old 01-22-2018, 02:31 PM   #3
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You can get a nice Winchester (52 gun) safe in that price point.
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Old 01-22-2018, 03:20 PM   #4
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Old 01-22-2018, 03:24 PM   #5
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In for this.....I'm in the same boat as the OP. Really like the Liberty Fatboy but everywhere local is out of stock till February and want ~$2500-2700 for the safe and another $300-500 for delivery
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Old 01-22-2018, 03:33 PM   #6
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My dad has a fat boy and it seems like a nice one. I'll pay the additional for delivery!!
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Old 01-22-2018, 03:46 PM   #7
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Is there a big difference between the Liberty Fatboy and the Fatboy that Cabela's sells?
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Old 01-22-2018, 03:52 PM   #8
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In for this.....I'm in the same boat as the OP. Really like the Liberty Fatboy but everywhere local is out of stock till February and want ~$2500-2700 for the safe and another $300-500 for delivery
The Fatboy is UL rated as RSC. For $3400 you can get a professionally refurbished, six side UL-30 commercial jewelry store vault that weighs 3500 lbs empty, delivered and installed in your house. Price will be higher if you have doors that can allow a huge vault to fit through. You pick the color. The door has two locks, you pick the types, mix, match.

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Old 01-22-2018, 03:58 PM   #9
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I have a Dakota and love it.
http://dakotasafe.com/
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Old 01-22-2018, 04:45 PM   #10
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In for this.....I'm in the same boat as the OP. Really like the Liberty Fatboy but everywhere local is out of stock till February and want ~$2500-2700 for the safe and another $300-500 for delivery
I have this safe. Paid $2100 out the door from sharp shooters in Lubbock. Thereís several online places that cheap and if I recall some had free curbside shipping. Itís stupid heavy. Get lots of help and pvc to roll it on. I had mine delivered on a drop bed trailer and a hydraulic dolly. When I moved the movers did it. But me and my brother moved it to my new gun room from another bedroom and it was all we could do to get it done. Itíll pull carpet so take it real easy. And get 3/4Ē pvc. The 1/2Ē sunk in the carpet and pad and did no good lol
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:28 PM   #11
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I did a lot of looking

Ended up with a Superior
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:39 PM   #12
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Jmeg what sold you on Dakota? I've seen them before on the internet. Never in person

Same thing to you BT?
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:14 PM   #13
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Remember anything called a gun safe is a residential security container and not a real safe. That said, I'm very happy with my Champion. In your price range, look for a mid-range Champion or Liberty. My researched suggested they were much better than the other RSC brands.

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Old 01-22-2018, 09:52 PM   #14
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My only regret, was buying a safe that is only 60Ē tall. I wish I had bought one that was 72Ē.

I would like to have a little more storage space. Iím thinking of cutting the top and bottom off to weld in extension plate and then build a new interior.



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Old 01-23-2018, 05:22 AM   #15
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Pleased w American Security- amsec. I would find one whose warranty covers floods however - amsec's doesn't
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Old 01-23-2018, 05:56 AM   #16
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Jmeg what sold you on Dakota? I've seen them before on the internet. Never in person

Same thing to you BT?
Of all the safes (security containers ) in my budget Dakota was the strongest one. They are not very well known but they go the extra mile to keep the door from being pried open. Customer service was great too. The warehouse in OK shipped a safe that was a 2016 model and I ordered the 2017 model. There wasn't much difference in them at all. The owner of Dakota knocked a significant amount off the price because I agreed to take the older one. I've been very happy with it.

PS: There was a burglary in the town next to me. The owner had a Dakota safe and the bad guys never got into it. The safe was ruined and had to be replaced because of their efforts but the victim still had all his stuff.

Also watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LgKThatkjM

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Old 01-23-2018, 06:23 AM   #17
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We have a Diamondback safe. 10 gauge walls, eleven 1.5 inch bolts, and good fire and water protection. Good luck with your decision.
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:39 AM   #18
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Jmeg what sold you on Dakota? I've seen them before on the internet. Never in person

Same thing to you BT?
All things considered I felt the Superior was the best value for my needs.

Door was heavier, side material was as thick as any of the others, door is "stepped" which helps prevent prying, I could get a dial lock instead of keypad, interior layout and the quality of the craftsmanship.

I suggest you look at as many as you can and narrow your top picks down.

For example I had one that I could only get by freight, after a little digging I found out they were made in China

Found another brand I liked the looks of, after putting my eyes on one in person I decided it was not worth the money for something that looked good but a teenage kid could probably defeat

Mine is a security container , could not afford a true safe but figure this will discourage or at least slow a thief way down.
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:55 AM   #19
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I went with the Liberty Presidential 50 I think it was around $6,900.00 including installation. This thing is a beast
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:09 AM   #20
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I have a Liberty Fatboy Jr and have been happy with it. That being said, I will be having a room built with a safe door installed when I build my next house since I wont be leaving that house.
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:14 AM   #21
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Liberty Fatboy was the best balance of capacity, construction, cost, and fire protection for me. I had it installed in a closet where there isnít much room to get at it with a pry bar. Also have it bolted to the floor.

I think the Colonial is the same width but taller. I think it is basically the same safe but with less fire protection. If you plan to store more than just rifles you might like the extra height and shelf on the Colonial.

I have all my pistols in the door pockets of my Fatboy and my revolvers in a pistol rack on the top shelf. With the cutouts in the shelf for the shotguns it doesnít leave much additional room. Just think about how you will use it in determining which size to get.
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:23 AM   #22
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buy the biggest safe you can afford, it doesn't take many long guns before they're stacked on each other.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:25 AM   #23
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Gdawg if it floods where I am I need a ark. But good info tor others


Thanks for the responses guys. I've seen the fat boys. They're nice. Looked at the champions last night and need to look at the dakotas. I'm fine buying from a small company. I used to have some paperwork for one but have lost it. Think they were made in Houston. May be wrong on that
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:46 AM   #24
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Pleased w American Security- amsec. I would find one whose warranty covers floods however - amsec's doesn't
Seems like there was a thread about Cannon safes (i think) that mentioned them taking care of all the flood victims no questions. I could be wrong...again... but that's pretty cool. Dunno nada about the quality of the safe itself. Seem like pretty good ones tho.
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Probably already been said but however many guns they say it holds, divide that number in half for real world application.
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Old 01-28-2018, 08:15 AM   #26
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Went and looked at Kodak yesterday, big r had them, and a liberty patriot.

Not to impressed with the liberty fit and finish. The Kodak was nice and I've seen the companies other safes.

Gonna head to cabelas today, anyone have one of their safes
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Seems like there was a thread about Cannon safes (i think) that mentioned them taking care of all the flood victims no questions. I could be wrong...again... but that's pretty cool. Dunno nada about the quality of the safe itself. Seem like pretty good ones tho.
Cannon for their customer service. I lost mine because of Harvey. They sent me a new one for free. Canít beat that!
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I am a Cannon guy as well!
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Old 01-28-2018, 09:53 AM   #29
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Ok so cannon was on the bottom of my list for no real reason. Guess I will need to look into them.
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There was some threads on here about Cannons great customer service. Reaching out to customers after Harvey and sending them new safes even without the customer filing a claim. Thats awsome service when a company seeks you out to give you a warranty.

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Been looking into safes as well but I have some time since I'm in and out of apartments right now...i have time. But, that also has me thinking. What about having a few smaller safes? That way if they attempt to get in one...they have to get in multiple safes AND they're aleasier to move around? Flawed thought?
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Been looking into safes as well but I have some time since I'm in and out of apartments right now...i have time. But, that also has me thinking. What about having a few smaller safes? That way if they attempt to get in one...they have to get in multiple safes AND they're aleasier to move around? Flawed thought?
Thieves like the small ones for that very reason also.

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Thieves like the small ones for that very reason also.

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but bolted to the ground adds an issue for them that isnt an issue for me
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but bolted to the ground adds an issue for them that isnt an issue for me
Only about a 2 minute issue. Hit the safe high and hard to make a little room under it for a sawsall and it will be sitting in the back of a truck before you can say Boo.

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Mine is bolted. The anchors and bolts are to far in for a saw. The safe is also in a corner so no access. Granted if they have time any safe will be stolen!
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Mine is bolted. The anchors and bolts are to far in for a saw. The safe is also in a corner so no access. Granted if they have time any safe will be stolen!
exactly what Im thinking too. anything can be stolen if they truly wanted to...just need to make it require more effort
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Only about a 2 minute issue. Hit the safe high and hard to make a little room under it for a sawsall and it will be sitting in the back of a truck before you can say Boo.

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For that reason I am fabricating a steel "safe room" with a vault door. The safes inside it will be bolted to the floor and steel wall. They will be placed in a way where attacks will be limited to.

Not saying they cant be broken into but its going to be some work for someone.
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Garage is also the worst place to have one installed... If a thief can get a vehicle to it, it's just gone quicker, plus they can get serious tools to it easier too...
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Old 01-31-2018, 09:36 PM   #39
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I have a Fort Knox, and like it a lot. Safes are a get what you pay for item.
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Garage is also the worst place to have one installed... If a thief can get a vehicle to it, it's just gone quicker, plus they can get serious tools to it easier too...
I understand but that's where it has to go for my house. I'd prefer it inside but not gonna happen.

Just called dakota safe and yep they are made in china. Don't really like that. How many other companies import? I'd prefer a us steel made safe.

Yea I like ft Knox they are just outta my price range
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I want a traditional rotary type lock, no electronic lock.
I love my electronic lock on my Browning. Super quick access. We are in/out of it all the time. Might be something to consider.
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My dad has the electronic. Nah, not for me. Yes it's much quicker I agree.
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:34 PM   #43
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I have a American Security (amsec) and don't think i would buy anything else. Friends who have moved safes before helped me with mine and all were amazed at how heavy that little thing is. Lights that come on when the door is opened is an overlooked feature IMH. Mine has it and I love it.
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:49 PM   #44
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Only thing I can add, is go the biggest you can afford. I bought one filled up quick now needing another one.
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Old 02-01-2018, 03:06 PM   #45
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If you have a Costco membership this is a good deal. Also has to be ordered cannot get in store. You can get 2
https://www.costco.com/Cannon-43.8-C...100341405.html
Cannon 43.8 Cu Ft Executive Series Safe, 60 min Fire Protection
Shipping & Handling Included*
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Elegant Chrome Finish
Weight: 696 lbs
Model CS72
Your Price $899.99
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Old 02-01-2018, 03:22 PM   #46
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Any of y'all ever heard of Old Glory. Can't figure out if they are a manufacturer or just a distributor

https://www.oldglorygunsafes.com/gun-safes.html
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I understand but that's where it has to go for my house. I'd prefer it inside but not gonna happen because my wife won't let me.
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We've all had that same fight. High time we stand together and bring our guns inside out of the cold.

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Old 02-01-2018, 04:57 PM   #48
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I would second lighting. Mine doesnít have lights and I wish it did.


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Haha how true that statement is.
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You will get as many opinions on a safe as if you asked what is your favorite caliber?

My advice...DON'T PUT IT IN THE GARAGE!!
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