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Old 01-09-2018, 06:50 AM   #1
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Did a little bit of trade out and January 26th I will be heading south the chase a big blue bull! Gonna take my .308 on the trip. I know a lot of people say you need a magnum caliber but I would rather take a rifle that I am comfortable shooting and put a good shot on one in the vitals. Now I do have one question, I currently shoot 168 grain sierra game king rounds. My rifle will shoot groups at 300 yards that you can cover with a nickle, using this ammo. Is that an adequate bullet for a nilgai? I shot an elk with it at just over 300 yards over the Christmas holiday and he folded up like a cheap lawn chair but I know these nilgai are tough, tough animals.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:58 AM   #2
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I've always heard that you "should" use a bonded bullet (e.g., partition) or a mono bullet (e.g., Barnes). I'd also think a 180gr would be better.

And, congrats on booking the hunt.
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:13 AM   #3
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I think most places require a 300 win mag at the smallest to use. The also require bonded bullets as already said.
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:13 AM   #4
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My dad shot this cow on our lease last week with his 270 WSM shooting a 130 grain nosler partition. She weighed 210 dressed, puts the live weight around 240-250. She went maybe 100 yards with a blood trail that I could following looking backwards over my shoulder. Name:  IMG_5025.jpg
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If I were hunting a bull I wouldnít hesitate to use that 308, Iíd be aiming for a neck shot though, we have a good bull on camera right now, if he steps out on me the bullet is headed straight to his neck, no fun dragging those animals out of the brush. If it makes you feel better, a hunter I know shot a 300 pound bull with his 243, he said it spun him around in his tracks and dropped him.



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Old 01-09-2018, 07:27 AM   #5
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Not much help on the type of bullet but you deff should practice shooting off sticks while standing. Bracken range will let you do it. Before I hunted mine I practiced off a bench at 100 to establish my group of 4. Then stood up and shot 4 as fast & smooth as I could....obviously there was a big difference. But after some practice I had a manageable group off the sticks.

Obviously a 300+ yard shot off of sticks is way harder than prone or on a bench rest. I got lucky, mine came out at about 450+ yards and walked right towards us. When he got to 75 yards I shot him in the middle of the chest (he was facing us), then ran up and put another in his vitals as he was crashing down.

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Old 01-09-2018, 07:35 AM   #6
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IMO most people over think, nilgie and elk , a good .30cal will kill them DRT I have seen them killed with British 303 ,7x57 .270 .dont rush your shot and just punch a good hole in them
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I had a guy that was shooting 150 grain remington core lokt's out of a 30-06. his first shot was too far back and into the guts. after we chased it down, we found it with it's head in a water trough. It stood up and he shot it in the neck from about 65 yards away. I told him to keep shooting until it was dead. He had to hit it 3 times total in the neck from 65-80 yards away. not a single bullet passed through the neck. He was putting them in a good spot but those bullets just weren't penetrating for ****. so, shoot a good bullet.

I've seen them killed with .243 and 25-06, but that's not ideal. head on shots in the white throat patch is a good spot. I have a buddy that's killed a couple hundred of them, and his favorite shot was head on, dead center in the chest. If you can get a quartering away shot and tuck one up behind the shoulder bones, that works pretty good too. High shoulder shots that might hit back and be high in the lungs will usually lead to a long trailing. the hide on their lower neck and shoulders is very thick, so 300 yards with a .308 wouldn't be my first choice.
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:53 AM   #8
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I would look at something in the 175 to 180gr range i have been using a hornady 178 gr ELD-X very accurate and well constructed. I took a moflon ram at 480 yards just before thanksgiving (I know it's not a Nilgai) also took a large boar at 600 yards the 178 gr blew through both shoulders with my 308. Had to throw away both shoulders on the hog because it was too damaged.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:06 AM   #9
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Barring any restrictions from the place you are hunting, the 308 should be fine. Take your time and make the right shot and you will have your trophy. I would try to keep it inside 200 yards just for the extra energy dump over 300 yards.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:18 AM   #10
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My son shot this bull a few weeks back. 7mmSTW 150gr Barnes triple shock dropped in his tracks bullet ended up under the hide on opposite shoulder. I used partitions before but they loose a lot of weight when shot out of hot guns and nothing seems to beat the Barnes. The bull my son shot had hide over an inch thick.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:20 AM   #12
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My son shot this bull a few weeks back. 7mmSTW 150gr Barnes triple shock dropped in his tracks bullet ended up under the hide on opposite shoulder. I used partitions before but they loose a lot of weight when shot out of hot guns and nothing seems to beat the Barnes. The bull my son shot had hide over an inch thick.


That bull is beatiful, love the color, Iíve only seen one other one like that and he was on refuge land.


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Old 01-09-2018, 08:23 AM   #13
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It is weird, you can kill them w an arrow, but not w a 308?

I have always heard that you need 300 or bigger, the one I shot was with a 300, good shot and still went 100 yards, they are super tough animals
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:25 AM   #14
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Hit a bull in the shoulder with my 280ai and 145gr Barnes LRX at 200yds....
Never found the bull and only one drop of blood.
Stay away from the shoulder! If I could take the shot over again, it would have been in the neck. Keep shot within 200 yds and you’ll be fine.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:29 AM   #15
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I shot my nilgai cow with a 300gr SGK from my 375 Ruger. It killed the animal but the jacket separated...but no question did it kill it. If I hunt then again I will still take my 375 but will probably use a 270gr TSX or a NPT

They arenít bulletproof but they are tough. I personally would use a tougher bullet than the SGK.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:31 AM   #16
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a 308 with 165 GMK's should do the trick no problem if you make a good shot.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:36 AM   #17
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It would probably work but I would opt for a tougher bullet that a Sierra Gameking. There is a reason that most outfitters recommend or require a minimum of .300 Magnum.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:38 AM   #18
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Folded this one up with a .308/168gr winchester silvertip.....they never un-track if you shoot them a little high.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:41 AM   #19
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I have guided several hunters and killed several bulls myself. I used a 165 gr hornady 30-06 and would get a full bullet mushroom every time and about 60% of the time full pass through on behind the shoulder shots breaking ribs on both sides. Many times the bullets that did not pass all the way through we found just under the skin on opposite sides. I have also killed them with 270 140 gr partitions. Clients had luck with magnums and non-magnum loads. I think if you stick to a bonded type bullet at or above 150 gr and you have a good shot placement you will be fine. They are tough animals. Have fund and good luck.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:50 AM   #20
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Good luck. Should be fun!
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:54 AM   #21
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I had a guy that was shooting 150 grain remington core lokt's out of a 30-06. his first shot was too far back and into the guts. after we chased it down, we found it with it's head in a water trough. It stood up and he shot it in the neck from about 65 yards away. I told him to keep shooting until it was dead. He had to hit it 3 times total in the neck from 65-80 yards away. not a single bullet passed through the neck. He was putting them in a good spot but those bullets just weren't penetrating for ****. so, shoot a good bullet.

I've seen them killed with .243 and 25-06, but that's not ideal. head on shots in the white throat patch is a good spot. I have a buddy that's killed a couple hundred of them, and his favorite shot was head on, dead center in the chest. If you can get a quartering away shot and tuck one up behind the shoulder bones, that works pretty good too. High shoulder shots that might hit back and be high in the lungs will usually lead to a long trailing. the hide on their lower neck and shoulders is very thick, so 300 yards with a .308 wouldn't be my first choice.
That exact same thing happened to me same bullet and caliber.
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IMO most people over think, nilgie and elk , a good .30cal will kill them DRT I have seen them killed with British 303 ,7x57 .270 .dont rush your shot and just punch a good hole in them
It's not over thought at all..
Nilgai BULLS are extremely tuff animals with VERY thick skin.. The ranches that sell these hunts want you to do your best to drop them or at least get a complete pass through. These things can run forever even when they are hit good.. No pass through means no blood trail and without one finding one in the thick brush is next to impossible..

I've seen the ski. On big mature bulls up to 1.5 inch thick in the neck/shoulder area with most being at least 3/4"-1" thick..

That being said I know a guy who killed one with a .243.
Right below the era hole.
The big guns are a better choice IMO but it can be done with smaller calibers but your chances of loosing one do go way up..
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:08 AM   #23
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MySRT8U, when you kill the bull and cape it out, pick the cape up. with the head and cape they probably weigh about 80 pounds! good luck, they're a fun animal to hunt
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:12 AM   #24
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It's not over thought at all..
Nilgai BULLS are extremely tuff animals with VERY thick skin.. The ranches that sell these hunts want you to do your best to drop them or at least get a complete pass through. These things can run forever even when they are hit good.. No pass through means no blood trail and without one finding one in the thick brush is next to impossible..

I've seen the ski. On big mature bulls up to 1.5 inch thick in the neck/shoulder area with most being at least 3/4"-1" thick..

That being said I know a guy who killed one with a .243.
Right below the era hole.
The big guns are a better choice IMO but it can be done with smaller calibers but your chances of loosing one do go way up..

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These beasts are tough! I put 3 rounds of 7Mag in the first of my bulls. First round was center high and right into the rear lung. He continued running without a skip. Next hit was just behind that in the gut. He went down after the 3rd round hit him in the high neck.

I avoid the mid-base neck area. Nothing passes through there.
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:14 AM   #25
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Spend more time studying their vitals if you're a life long deer hunter. They're much more forward and upright than those on a deer and it's really easy to hit an area too far back that may eventually kill them, but not in time for you to collect them.

I'd say the stories on them are both founded in reality and exaggerated based on my experience. My buddy shot a pretty big bull with a .270 and it went like 20 yards and piled up. I shot a cow with my .308 and MIGHT have hit her an inch back of ideal and she ran for like 5 hours. Kept laying down, but always jumped before I could get a shot off.

Point being: Make your shot and you'll be fine.
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Here's one of mine that made the books.
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:23 AM   #27
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Thanks for the advice guys. It definitely gives me something to think about! I may have to break the 7mag out for this one. I am definitely very excited. This has been a bucket list hunt for me for a long, long time!


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Old 01-09-2018, 09:33 AM   #28
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I've witnessed a lot of success with 7Mag or any fast moving 30 cal
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Thanks for the advice guys. It definitely gives me something to think about! I may have to break the 7mag out for this one. I am definitely very excited. This has been a bucket list hunt for me for a long, long time!


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If you have a 7mm Mag by all means use it.. Without hesitation over the .308.
Shoot a heavy(160gr+)Barnes or Nosler Partion bullet.
The extra power will do you well..
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Here's one of mine that made the books.
Great bull.. Who do you hunt with? I have the Nilgai itch very bad again....
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:36 AM   #31
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:40 AM   #32
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I don't know much about nilgai but I have killed one mature bull. I used a 300 win mag with 180 grain barnes. Im glad I had the knock down power. I think some people over hype how tough they are, but they are a tough animal. If it were me I would take a larger caliber. From what people have told me is they don't bleed much, the skin is thick and elastic like. Good shot placement is very important.
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:42 AM   #33
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I built some 168 TTSX Barnes 30.06 loads for a friend. It folded up his nilgai with one shot. I don't know any significant details about shot placement.
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Old 01-09-2018, 10:58 AM   #34
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I don't know much about nilgai but I have killed one mature bull. I used a 300 win mag with 180 grain barnes. Im glad I had the knock down power. I think some people over hype how tough they are, but they are a tough animal. If it were me I would take a larger caliber. From what people have told me is they don't bleed much, the skin is thick and elastic like. Good shot placement is very important.
This is very true that they,don't bleed much , and do have strong adrenal systems,my last bull I shot on the Kennedy was hobbling around with a broken shoulder and I broke his neck with my 300 then put a 22mag final shot by the ear, he pumped blood out of the .22 hole for probably 2-3 minutes! They do get tougher after that first shot
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I'm dying to go after one of these. Good luck on the hunt!
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Old 01-09-2018, 11:58 AM   #36
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:06 PM   #37
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:37 PM   #38
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Old 01-09-2018, 01:15 PM   #39
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I've never hunted the blue bull so take my opinion for what it's worth...a cup of coffee

I feel a 308 will do the job but it's a minimum and as always great shot placement is key. That's really a stupid comment that we see repeated all to often. I don't care if you're shooting an 80 pound doe with a 300 anything mag, gut shoot her and it will be a long day.

As to the bullet choice, I think it's a good one and that bullet is say underrated for some reason. I saw a pile of them from a 7 and 300 mag recovered from an African hunt. Additionally, my dad shot a mature audad with a 7stw at 150 yards with a perfect shoulder pass through and a golf ball sized exit.

My point there is that 160 grain 7stw was going much faster at 150 yards then your 308 at the muzzle and still held together on a tough 300 ram.

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Old 01-09-2018, 01:32 PM   #40
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Don't believe everything you here. Nilgai are tough, but not that tough. Some people will have you believe that you need a 375 H&H magnum to down these antelope. And some outfitters require a certain caliber, usually something like a 35 caliber and up. The nilgai I have shot in the past were killed with a 3006. I used 165 grain speer grand slams. The farthest nilgai I shot went 50 yards and keeled over. This year I hunted LRGV East Lake down in the Valley. It was a shotgun only hunt, with slugs, for deer and nilgai. Me and my son took two deer. But one of the other hunters shot a good size nilgai bull with a 12 gauge slug, one shot to knock it down and one to finish it. The bull dropped in its tracks. I know cause I went to go help the hunter get it out. You can kill nilgai with a 3030 if you can hit them. So don't believe all these BS'rs about you gotta have a cannon to kill nilgai. You don't. Shot placement is the key to a successful hunt. Your 308 will drop one, and if that is what you are comfortable shooting, then use it. Sorry for the long post, good luck on your nilgai hunt.
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Old 01-09-2018, 01:43 PM   #41
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sure... 99% of the ranches and outfitters have established minimum calibers or bullet weights for no reason at all....

you can kill a nilgai with a 22 magnum if you hit it in the brain. For guided hunts with outfitters, shots are rarely under ideal conditions, and often at running animals. all this talk about critical, careful bullet placement is out the window when you start shooting at a bull on the run, or even a walk. you need to be prepared for the non ideal shot, not expect the perfect one.
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Old 01-09-2018, 01:55 PM   #42
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I shot my bull with a 150 gr accubond in my 308. We topped a hill and caught him bedded down. He stood up immediately and was about to take off, and I had a fairly easy freehand shot at about 40 yards. He was standing straight on to me and I hit him near the bottom of the beard. His feet came out underneath him. The bullet was came no where near passing through, but it was enough to break the spine.

My brother shot one with a 7mm rem mag 160 grain sierra bullet in the base of the neck area. It hit the dirt and was kicking. Then it got up, and they still haven't seen it. So, moral to the story, you have to hit em good and even if they hit the ground, be ready for a follow up. Good luck.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:05 PM   #43
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I have decided to take the 7 mag. I am very comfortable with it it is just a bit longer barrel and heavier all around rifle so shooting out of a truck may be a bit more difficult. I would rather be safe than sorry. I am very confident in my shooting ability but **** happens lol. All in all I am extremely excited!
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:27 PM   #44
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super jealous. let us know how it goes!! I've wanted to take one in south Texas for a long time and hope to do so really soon!
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:57 PM   #45
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[QUOTE=ttaxidermy;13087024]Great bull.. Who do you hunt with? I have the Nilgai itch very bad again....[/QUOT

Several over the last 11 years. All adjacent to the Kennedy and King properties.
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Old 01-10-2018, 06:27 PM   #46
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Shot this one with a 300 WM with Barnes ttsx 180 at 100 yards and it never touched the backside ribs. It went in behind the front side leg and hit 1 rib and stopped in the chest cavity. Took out both lungs and top of heart.

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Old 01-10-2018, 06:43 PM   #47
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Shot this one with a 300 WM with Barnes ttsx 180 at 100 yards and it never touched the backside ribs. It went in behind the front side leg and hit 1 rib and stopped in the chest cavity. Took out both lungs and top of heart.

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Why do people keep saying theee animals are tough? Pfffft. Just because they can stop one the highest weight retention bullets in about a foot?


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Old 01-10-2018, 06:59 PM   #48
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Shot this one with a 300 WM with Barnes ttsx 180 at 100 yards and it never touched the backside ribs. It went in behind the front side leg and hit 1 rib and stopped in the chest cavity. Took out both lungs and top of heart.

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Thatís a good bull for sure.
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:11 PM   #49
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Thatís a good bull for sure.


That's field dressed already. It was between 550 and 600 live weight.
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:41 PM   #50
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I hunted the Laguna atascosa NWR two weeks ago and was able to bag a really nice bull. Shot him quartering away at 350 win a 139g out of a 7mm. Went in behind last rib and we found slight fragmenting when skinning and cutting the brisket and neck meat off. Ran 70yards and piled up

My buddy shot his bull at about 200 with a 270 that was quartering away. Entry at the last rib. Never saw any sign or damage when we cleaned the animal. Dropped within 50 yards

Both bulls were in the 500-600 pound range
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