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Old 04-13-2018, 02:59 PM   #1
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Lately I have been noticing diesel trucks more than usual. One reason is I have seen some old enough to vote for brand new prices in the Classifieds.

Another is I see folks buying them that cant even hitch a trailer. Like my SIL that has a 2017 Cummins she can't even backup much less hitch a trailer. Also, threads like, "Can I pull my ten foot utility trailer with my daughter's stuffed animals with my top of the line late model half ton?" Look some people just want to drive them and that's cool. If online betting was legal I would bet a happy meal there are at least 5 posters to this thread that say some variation of, "I/THEY can do what I/we want it is personal choice".

Just a PSA for those unsure. Your late model half ton most likely has a max tow in excess of 10k and you don't need to respond to every 25 foot travel trailer thread, is it half ton towable?

No one stepped on my rubber tail. Overpaying for vehicles has been a pet peeve of mine since my reading "The Millionaire Next Door" and "Total Money Makeover".
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:00 PM   #2
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but but but...I'm a country boy?
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but but but...I'm a country boy?
Exactly. I actually get buying it for cultural reasons more than thinking you NEED it tow your single axle boat trailer.
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Exactly. I actually get buying it for cultural reasons more than thinking you NEED it tow your single axle boat trailer.
FWIW - i think out of every 100 of them sold, maybe 10 are actually needed.

Also - I drive a KIA Optima
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Some people actually need the towing capacity of a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel pickup. Other people just like to leave their diesel truck running so they can listen to it chug while they're extending their mirrors, hanging their truck nuts off the hitch in the back, and shining up their stacks.
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Some people actually need the towing capacity of a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel pickup. Other people just like to leave their diesel truck running so they can listen to it chug while they're extending their mirrors, hanging their truck nuts off the hitch in the back, and shining up their stacks.
Is there really any other reason to buy one though?
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Is there really any other reason to buy one though?
Maybe not.
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The new ones arenít as cool anyways because they donít sound like the old Cummins or Powerstrokes
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I'm guessing more than 50% of the trucks on the road have never had dirt or gravel in the bed and that 90% of the 4x4's have never been anywhere where it was needed. That said, they do look cool and I plan to buy a 4x4 F150 in the next year.
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:27 PM   #11
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This thread wreaks of jealousy.
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Not sure why in the hell you'd be worried about it.
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:31 PM   #13
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This thread wreaks of jealousy.
Tis post wreaks off pur gramar.

Also jealousy is fear of losing something you have, envy is wanting what others have.

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Old 04-13-2018, 03:32 PM   #14
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I do NOT ďneedĒ mine right now. I had a late model Ford F-150 4x4 with the 5.0 and it towed our boat and RV just fine. I know personally, we are preparing for retirement and that includes trading in our bumper pull for a 5er within the next year. The right deal presented itself to get our Ram 2500 and I didnít hesitate to jump on it. Maintenance costs are tremendously more and is offset by the 27mpg doing 80mph unloaded.

Most people donít need a diesel and due more harm than good in the way they drive them. I guess in that regard itís a win for the manufacturers and mechanics.

Again, for us, itís all about retirement and having stuff paid off before. That is why I jumped on a B&W sliding hitch locally online last night. I donít have a use for it right this minute but I will soon and for $450, I couldnít pass up saving $1k!





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Someone bought something you don't want and now you're losing your sanity? That time of the month?
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Someone bought something you don't want and now you're losing your sanity? That time of the month?
With who the OP is I'd say your spot on
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Tis post wreaks off pur gramar.

Also jealousy is fear of losing something you have, envy is wanting what others have.

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jeal∑ous∑ly
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in a way that shows an envious resentment of someone or their achievements, possessions, or perceived advantages.
"she stared jealously at his phone"

Thank your off there, maybe double check what you think you know before making a wise crack at somebody.

I have a 2017 f250 diesel, I do have a gooseneck trailer and haul a tractor, a ranger and or a Jeep a few times a month and also haul stuff out to junk yard. I had a F150 a few years back and it could tow everything but it was enough weight it was working the truck so I moved up to the diesel.

I donít care what people buy, I just canít ever figure out why they buy them to lift them and throw 40s underneath them. And take every practical use for a truck and throw it out the window. But each there own.


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With who the OP is I'd say your spot on
You said "spot" in regards to "time of the month".

I'm still trying to figure out what was grammatically incorrect about "This thread wreaks of jealousy."????

I drive a diesel. I need it to tow my ego around. Please read "Total Money Takeover", then you can tell me what to drive when you're paying for it!
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:47 PM   #21
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For that matter why buy a new bow when older bows will work? Why hunt with an expensive compound bow when a cheap bolt action rifle will work? Why hunt when there's grocery stores selling food cheaper than hunting equipment?

I get what you mean, and being in Houston where I know for a fact most of these trucks are just for show, but who cares. If they earned their money and have the ability to purchase one, who gives a rip.
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:49 PM   #22
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I don't care what someone wants to drive. If all you do is drive to work in the city in a lifted tuned diesel, great, it's your money, do what you want with it. What irks me are the guys that show up on every towing thread with the mindset that if you don't have a diesel that can pull your 30k trailer 100 mph then you are somehow inferior to them. Simple, if you need to tow heavy regularly or just plain want one, get a diesel. Beyond that no one is jealous or cares how cool you think you are.

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Old 04-13-2018, 03:55 PM   #23
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Holy crap you are really going to lose your mind when a big portion of 1/2 tons are diesels.

I got the 1/2 ton Diesel for fuel mileage, and it pulls everything I need. 20ft flatbed and my 34ft travel trailer the few times a year I pull them. Other than that, I use the hell out of my truck for the bed.
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:57 PM   #24
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I don't care what someone wants to drive. If all you do is drive to work in the city in a lifted tuned diesel, great, it's your money, do what you want with it. What irks me are the guys that show up on every towing thread with the mindset that if you don't have a diesel that can pull your 30k trailer 100 mph then you are somehow inferior to them. Simple, if you need to tow heavy regularly or just plain want one, get a diesel. Beyond that no one is jealous or cares how cool you think you are.
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Or they insinuate you can't tow more than a little red wagon.

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Old 04-13-2018, 04:03 PM   #25
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You said "spot" in regards to "time of the month".

I'm still trying to figure out what was grammatically incorrect about "This thread wreaks of jealousy."????

I drive a diesel. I need it to tow my ego around. Please read "Total Money Takeover", then you can tell me what to drive when you're paying for it!
Haha, extended cab or crew cab for the ego?
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The new ones arenít as cool anyways because they donít sound like the old Cummins or Powerstrokes


Ive owned them both and that ainít a bad thing.


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I do NOT ďneedĒ mine right now. I had a late model Ford F-150 4x4 with the 5.0 and it towed our boat and RV just fine. I know personally, we are preparing for retirement and that includes trading in our bumper pull for a 5er within the next year. The right deal presented itself to get our Ram 2500 and I didnít hesitate to jump on it. Maintenance costs are tremendously more and is offset by the 27mpg doing 80mph unloaded.

Most people donít need a diesel and due more harm than good in the way they drive them. I guess in that regard itís a win for the manufacturers and mechanics.

Again, for us, itís all about retirement and having stuff paid off before. That is why I jumped on a B&W sliding hitch locally online last night. I donít have a use for it right this minute but I will soon and for $450, I couldnít pass up saving $1k!





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Holy cow! You STOLE that hitch!

Iím jealous. I need a slider and currently have a Curt slider setup on my B&W turnover but itís very noisy.


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Old 04-13-2018, 04:10 PM   #28
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Also - I drive a KIA Optima
Did you buy it up the road at "Cowboy KIA" up in Conroe????

(that sign cracks me up EVERY time... never gets old! )
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Keeping up with the Jones.

There are probably more big, fancy diesels in most Dallas/Houston neighborhoods than there are in the county I live in that has over 16,000 people.

I don’t get it either, but it ain’t my money.
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Holy cow! You STOLE that hitch!

Iím jealous. I need a slider and currently have a Curt slider setup on my B&W turnover but itís very noisy.


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This is the exact hitch we wanted in part because of what you said, itís super quiet and flexes to eliminate it transferring to the truck. And the deal we got, smokin hot! We couldnít get over there fast enough. It had been listed for three days and we were the first to contact them. We are truly Blessed!


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Not a bad thing at all. My 5.9 was ďcoolĒ when I was 22 now theyíre just obnoxious
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Mike according to the OP you are envious of Brazos Hunters new belongings
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Lately I have been noticing diesel trucks more than usual. One reason is I have seen some old enough to vote for brand new prices in the Classifieds.

Another is I see folks buying them that cant even hitch a trailer. Like my SIL that has a 2017 Cummins she can't even backup much less hitch a trailer. Also, threads like, "Can I pull my ten foot utility trailer with my daughter's stuffed animals with my top of the line late model half ton?" Look some people just want to drive them and that's cool. If online betting was legal I would bet a happy meal there are at least 5 posters to this thread that say some variation of, "I/THEY can do what I/we want it is personal choice".

Just a PSA for those unsure. Your late model half ton most likely has a max tow in excess of 10k and you don't need to respond to every 25 foot travel trailer thread, is it half ton towable?

No one stepped on my rubber tail. Overpaying for vehicles has been a pet peeve of mine since my reading "The Millionaire Next Door" and "Total Money Makeover".
What do you drive?

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Old 04-13-2018, 05:36 PM   #34
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I learned pretty fast during Harvey that in a crisis you do NOT want a diesel. Diesel was sold out 2 days faster than gas was.. Almost within hours of the storm turning towards Houston.. A couple days after Harvey was gone I drove to New Mexico and about 1 out of 3 stations had gas and about 1 out of 20 had diesel..

They'll definitely last longer than most gas engines and get better gas mileage than most of them, but the maintenance costs are so much higher.. I'll take the poorer mpg any day.. Just had to make this exact choice between a V10 or 7.3 Excursion..

Towing (more than a couple weeks a year).. That's a different story.. But ya, 1 out of 10 diesel owners ever tow a thing.. They may as well not have hitches, but I guess that wouldn't look cool lol.. And, a V10 will tow just fine! Will just get 7mpg instead of 10mpg, but w/e
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For that matter why buy a new bow when older bows will work? Why hunt with an expensive compound bow when a cheap bolt action rifle will work? Why hunt when there's grocery stores selling food cheaper than hunting equipment?

I get what you mean, and being in Houston where I know for a fact most of these trucks are just for show, but who cares. If they earned their money and have the ability to purchase one, who gives a rip.
Thatís all hat and no cattle. But people should buy whatever they want
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I have a 2017 F-250 and Iíve never even towed anything in the 13 months Iíve owned it. I donít even have a hitch to be able to two something.

Itís actually my secondary vehicle that I drive to the gym or out to eat.


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LOL...this thread has some dumb scattered through it.

I sure wish I had enough free time to give a crap about what other people drive.

Carry on


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Old 04-13-2018, 06:55 PM   #39
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I’ve pulled trailers with anything from a kodiak 5500, f450, 2500hd gas and diesel, and a v6 ecoboost, my conclusion is that it all sucks, I will always have something to complain about. The favorite vehicle I’ve ever driven was a Volkswagen Jetta, 30-40 mpg no one asked me to haul things and it had just enough room to fit all my gear and enough clearance to get to deer camp.
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I love my diesel pickup.
No gooseneck hitch.
$120 oil changes don’t bother me.

How other people spend their money is no business of mine, and that goes both ways.
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Old 04-13-2018, 07:04 PM   #41
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No good reason to buy a diesel now that Dodge has plans to put the Hellcat engine in the Ram Rebel.
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Good grief...this thread is like teenage girl drama .

"I mean like Oh mah gawd Becky...did you see the size of heeer truck?" Can you believe she like, drives a diesel and she doesn't even need one all the time? Oh mah Gawd she must hang out with those rednecks! gag me with a spoon....my Prius can do all she needs and gets better gas mileage...and Oh mah Gawd its so loud.. It's like totally mid blowing.. They are so not cool like me because I think I know what is best for everybody..

2001 Ford F350 Crew cab 7.3L diesel 4x4. Bought it for longevity, the crew cab size/room with a normal sized bed and dragging a bass boat and a duck boat all over the state of Texas, southern OK and all the way up into Minnesota on the Canadian border 9 times. Ordered it, paid for it and drove it off the lot with 9 miles on it and still running strong. 290,800 miles on her and she still looks **** good IMO. So why those folks who have "the right truck for their needs" keep having to replace their 1/2 tons or Priuses over that 17 year period, I've done pretty well with my diesel decision monetarily and I've never had to ask..."can I tow that or can I put that much in my bed and drive at the lease or anywhere for that matter." Plus it has 10 years on the rockiest deer lease I have even been on and handled it like a champ suspension wise. So yall vehicle Nazis can shove that keeping up with the Jones and cowboy talk up your collective......well you know what.. I'll keep chugging along until she can't chug anymore.

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So what are we griping about here???

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Old 04-13-2018, 07:32 PM   #46
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I'm a poor man so diesel is out of the question. Truck cost too much and maintenance is too high. 1/2 ton is in my price range and will pull what I need.

If I had more $$$$ I'd buy a diesel. Just to **** others off...
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Good grief...this thread is like teenage girl drama .

"I mean like Oh mah gawd Becky...did you see the size of heeer truck?" Can you believe she like, drives a diesel and she doesn't even need one all the time? Oh mah Gawd she must hang out with those rednecks! gag me with a spoon....my Prius can do all she needs and gets better gas mileage...and Oh mah Gawd its so loud.. It's like totally mid blowing.. They are so not cool like me because I think I know what is best for everybody..

2001 Ford F350 Crew cab 7.3L diesel 4x4. Bought it for longevity, the crew cab size/room with a normal sized bed and dragging a bass boat and a duck boat all over the state of Texas, southern OK and all the way up into Minnesota on the Canadian border 9 times. Ordered it, paid for it and drove it off the lot with 9 miles on it and still running strong. 290,800 miles on her and she still looks **** good IMO. So why those folks who have "the right truck for their needs" keep having to replace their 1/2 tons or Priuses over that 17 year period, I've done pretty well with my diesel decision monetarily and I've never had to ask..."can I tow that or can I put that much in my bed and drive at the lease or anywhere for that matter." Plus it has 10 years on the rockiest deer lease I have even been on and handled it like a champ suspension wise. So yall vehicle Nazis can shove that keeping up with the Jones and cowboy talk up your collective......well you know what.. I'll keep chugging along until she can't chug anymore.

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Have to say 2001 must have been a good year for the 7.3 durability wise. My brother has one at over 200K that has been anything by babied. My dad had one that was at like 250K+ when he got rid of it.


Edit: Could care less what others drive. Gas, diesel, 40Ē tires that never see anything but pavement, itís all whatever. Personally, Iíve owned a couple of diesels. Probably wonít again because I donít tow enough, they are heavy, and maintenance cost more.

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Old 04-13-2018, 07:50 PM   #48
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I do NOT ďneedĒ mine right now. I had a late model Ford F-150 4x4 with the 5.0 and it towed our boat and RV just fine. I know personally, we are preparing for retirement and that includes trading in our bumper pull for a 5er within the next year. The right deal presented itself to get our Ram 2500 and I didnít hesitate to jump on it. Maintenance costs are tremendously more and is offset by the 27mpg doing 80mph unloaded.

Most people donít need a diesel and due more harm than good in the way they drive them. I guess in that regard itís a win for the manufacturers and mechanics.

Again, for us, itís all about retirement and having stuff paid off before. That is why I jumped on a B&W sliding hitch locally online last night. I donít have a use for it right this minute but I will soon and for $450, I couldnít





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27mpg@80 really?
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27mpg@80 really?


Donít look at the average, that was mostly in town. Before you ask, I was not driving down a hill nor coasting.




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Is it possible you may be slightly underestimating resale value of the diesel vs. gas?

I've seen mid-90s gas trucks offered up for less than lawnmowers while mid-90s diesels sell for 2/3 of what they went for 20+ years ago.
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