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Old 02-25-2018, 12:01 PM   #1
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Can any newer F150 owners comment on this tech?

Itís standard on all 2018 F150s, correct? Does it save a noticeable amount of fuel? Can it be disabled?

My inlaws have one of the first start/stop offerings from Chevy: a 2009 Malibu hybrid. They have enjoyed the car and never minded the start/stop feature. No major issues yet at 120k miles. The only thing I dislike is the A/C compressor doesnít run while the motor is stopped. Fan still blows, but no A/C. Are the new F150s the same?
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Old 02-25-2018, 12:02 PM   #2
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I did not like it it can be disabled
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Old 02-25-2018, 12:27 PM   #3
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If you want to disable it all you have to do is plug in a trailer adapter and it will think you have a trailer on. This will disable it.
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Old 02-25-2018, 12:29 PM   #4
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All the 2018 f150s have it. It works the same as you described. I was told by a salesman that if the AC senses that it needs to be running (IE, hot day on full blast) then the truck isn't supposed to shut off, but I didn't buy one so I don't know if that's true. There's a button on the dash you can hit each time you start the truck or other ways to disable it if you want to.
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Old 02-25-2018, 12:30 PM   #5
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If you want to disable it all you have to do is plug in a trailer adapter and it will think you have a trailer on. This will disable it.
Good to know " I have when the wife's CTS does the SS thing "
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:28 PM   #6
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Had that "feature" on a couple of Avis rental cars.

Hated it. In Houston, stop-and-go driving, took me a while to figure out how to disable it.
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:44 PM   #7
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My brother just bought one, he hates the shut off feature. I rode with him one day last week and it did it in Houston traffic. Scared us both multiple times. We have spent too much time driving old vehicles to not get a jolt of adrenalin when it turns off. Tough being poor most of your life. ( obviously he still isnt )
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:20 PM   #8
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he still isnt

Huh?
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:32 PM   #9
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Huh?
Should have been "he isnt still" . Meaning he isnt still poor, considering the fact that he has a brand new truck.
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:46 PM   #10
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Lol I knew what you meant
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Old 02-25-2018, 04:43 PM   #11
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Hate it! I just hit the button to turn it off everytime I start my truck. I think I'm going to put a tuner on it so I can permanently disable it.
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Old 02-25-2018, 04:48 PM   #12
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That would be an annoying feature.
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:39 PM   #13
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This feature is everywhere in Europe. Most all cabs have it and the wife's (German made) car now has it. I don't like it either...but at least you can disable it.
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:43 PM   #14
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I have a 2016 2.7L EcoBoost 4x4 F150. I don't mind it except in stop and go traffic, so I usually turn it off when I think about it when I'm commuting. It bothers passengers more than it bothers me around town. I agree on the AC thing, it's mildly annoying but I can push the button to disable it whenever.
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:21 PM   #15
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It's an Obama button
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:49 PM   #16
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Itíd be convenient if you had to hit the button to enable the feature rather than disable it.


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Old 02-25-2018, 07:53 PM   #17
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If you want to disable it all you have to do is plug in a trailer adapter and it will think you have a trailer on. This will disable it.


This is the easiest solution.


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Old 02-25-2018, 08:10 PM   #18
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I imagine you can make it work like this with a tuner. On my Mustang, the traction control drove me crazy because it defaulted on. A tuner made it default to off and come on when I pushed the button.

Iím looking at them also and donít like this ďfeatureĒ. I will probably plug in a trailer adapter so I donít have to tune a brand new truck.
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Old 02-25-2018, 08:14 PM   #19
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Reminds me of the new low flow toilets that were supposed to save water but everyone has to flush twice so they end up using MORE water than the old ones.
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Old 02-25-2018, 08:48 PM   #20
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If you have the trailer plug connected the info panel says "Trailer detected " and asks you to push the "ok" button. If you have to push a button anyway why not just push the disable button? What am I missing?
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Old 02-25-2018, 09:03 PM   #21
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Sport Mode will also disable the feature. I just try and remember to hit the button. The following YouTube link shows a one time fix solution. Just not ready to partially dissemble dash. Been reading about an app called Forscan that requires a obd connection.

http://www.forscan.org/home.html

https://youtu.be/Qf0dQEUg9VQ


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Old 02-25-2018, 09:06 PM   #22
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I have it on my 2015 f150 and it doesn't bother me. I noticed minimal fuel mileage increase with it on but I do drive mainly highway miles so the feature is not used often. I turn it off when it stop and go traffic mainly because I just don't want the start having to work that much. I would imagine with more city driving it would be more beneficial.
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Old 02-25-2018, 09:27 PM   #23
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have it on my 18 highlander,, i hate it,, stupid idea and no it does not save much gas and when it does stop the ac/ or fan is running on the battery,,,, i usually remember to turn it off after the first time it dies at a light
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Old 02-25-2018, 09:31 PM   #24
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I have a 2017 150. The truck has a setting that will tell motor running hrs and idle hours. The first 10000 miles I kept the SS disabled. I had more than 10 per cent idle hours. I don't use drive-ins. In that time I also made several trips to the lease 4 hrs each way. Your engine idles far more than you think.
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Old 02-25-2018, 09:35 PM   #25
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If you have the trailer plug connected the info panel says "Trailer detected " and asks you to push the "ok" button. If you have to push a button anyway why not just push the disable button? What am I missing?
Well thats not cool. Didnt realize that. I hate all the buttons and sensors. Do I really need the truck to tell me it senses a trailer? Trust me, I know whether I hooked a trailer up or not.....even if I somehow forgot, as soon as I took off I would feel it.
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Old 02-25-2018, 09:38 PM   #26
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I hate it, if you YouTube it, there’s several ways to disable it. Easiest is the trailer plug as mentioned.
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:00 PM   #27
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I have it '17 F150. I hated it at 1st, but it doesn't bother me anymore. The shut-off can be controlled by how hard you push in the brake pedal. If you don't push it in hard, it won't shut off and doesn't shut off if the A/C, Heat, or defrost is cranking high. I have a couple long red lights that I go through daily and it doesn't bother me when it shuts off. I am concerned about the battery & starter life, but I'm getting 19-20 mpg with a 375hp truck, so I'll deal with it. You can delete it with forscan or a toggle switch.
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Old 02-26-2018, 07:21 AM   #28
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Is this only on the 6-cyl? If thatís the case, just buy a truck with a full sized engine in it...problem solved.


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Old 02-26-2018, 08:23 AM   #29
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I have it and I turn it off every time i get in the truck now. It actually caused a failure in my aux. transmission pump, which thankfully was under warranty at the time. This happens when its turning on and off a lot in traffic and the pump fails to release pressure in the transmission when the engine stops. Its an expensive fix and if you google it, you can see it happens a decent amount.
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Old 02-26-2018, 08:58 AM   #30
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Is this only on the 6-cyl? If thatís the case, just buy a truck with a full sized engine in it...problem solved.


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Not limited to the 6cyl eco. All 2018ís. I have the 5.0


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Old 02-26-2018, 09:17 AM   #31
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It doesnít bother me. Itís real easy to press the disable button
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Old 02-26-2018, 09:40 AM   #32
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Well thats not cool. Didnt realize that. I hate all the buttons and sensors. Do I really need the truck to tell me it senses a trailer? Trust me, I know whether I hooked a trailer up or not.....even if I somehow forgot, as soon as I took off I would feel it.
That sensor will also tell which trailer light is not working and if you have a wiring problem while your driving. Recently I was towing a trailer and the screen told me the the trailer was disconnected. That light went off but came back on several times during the trip. Apparently I have a bad ground or connection. I would not have know it otherwise, unless I cot stopped.
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Old 02-26-2018, 10:29 AM   #33
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My wife's Mercedes has the feature. It's a nice feature to have for long red lights, etc. It's not that great in "commuting" stop and go traffic. However, there's a button on the dash to disable/enable it anytime you want to.

The vehicle won't always shut-off when stopped. The computer determines based on multiple variables if it's better to be off or on at idle.

Honestly, it doesn't bother me. Actually, some of you guys crack me up. On one hand, you want better gas mileage (there's actually an active thread right now on gas mileage), but on the other, you thumb your nose up at a feature designed to try and help it. As someone else stated, check your total idle engine hours; you would be surprised how long you really do sit at idle.

This tech isn't new either. It's been in some vehicles for well over a decade.

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