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Old 01-21-2013, 09:10 PM   #151
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I see you have had good luck with your radishes this year! Curious if you will plant the same fall food plot next year?? I tried brassicas this year and found out I will not be planting them next year. I had some of the best looking greens in Houston County but the deer didn't touch them... Even with several days in 20's. I am always looking for ways to improve my plots.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:28 PM   #152
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I see you have had good luck with your radishes this year! Curious if you will plant the same fall food plot next year?? I tried brassicas this year and found out I will not be planting them next year. I had some of the best looking greens in Houston County but the deer didn't touch them... Even with several days in 20's. I am always looking for ways to improve my plots.
Yes the ole dibble bar.....I thought about getting one before I started planting but decided to go with what I had. If I ever do something like that again I will definitely get one.

The radishes were an experiment this year and I've been pleasantly surprised with the results. Yes I will absolutely plant the same mix again...except for the Austrian Winter Peas...for the money I think it was a waste.

The clover/oats combo has never gotten above an inch in height...just kept mowed down by the deer. They ate the radish tops more as the season progressed and now they are absolutely loving them. I even had one radish tuber eaten today when I checked so maybe they will start eating it too.

I may even plant some radishes for an early spring crop....they keep the ground totally weed free because they grow so fast and are so prolific. My deer have never seen radishes before this year so I'm impressed with their drawing power. One thing that helped was that I planted oats/clover right next to them so the deer had a chance to nibble on the radishes while eating the oats. I guess they developed a taste for them.

I'm a believer that once they get used to coming in to a plot and its screened off from view and not disturbed...I think they will eat just about anything you plant. It may take them a few years though.

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Old 01-21-2013, 10:39 PM   #153
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Any game cam pics! Nice job
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:07 PM   #154
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Here are a few more trail cam pics at the feeders.

I don't have big deer....most of the older deer I see are just 8 points. I rarely see a 10 or better. I'm working to change that...


Nice young 8


Another 3 year old 8


I have WAY too many of these! My son loves them...shooting them that is.

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Old 01-21-2013, 11:12 PM   #155
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This is an "acorn" horn buck. I missed him last year...grazed his back at 25 yards.


Another typical 8 I see all the time.


Nice big body....not much for horns...lol.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:43 AM   #156
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Man you have a lot of action out there! That's a lot of piggies! They'll keep you busy this off season!
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:56 PM   #157
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Man you have a lot of action out there! That's a lot of piggies! They'll keep you busy this off season!
Yes too many pigs. We are going to be trapping this spring and summer.

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Old 01-31-2013, 03:32 PM   #158
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Checked out my place today....

Radishes have perked up with all the warm weather last week.
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They are still eating the tops not the bulbs...
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:40 PM   #159
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Here is an untouched mature radish plant for comparison.
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The clover and oats are still being "mowed" down pretty good....
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A little poop action...
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Something is eating the tops of my pine trees I planted. Anyone have any ideas what it could be? I'm thinking hogs.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:12 PM   #160
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sorry if i missed it but how big is your total plot?
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:42 PM   #161
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You may have to fence the pine trees.
I planted about 150 pines along Hwy 6, 10 miles south of College Station and we found out the hard way that deer love to eat the new growth on top and LOVE to rub horns on them...I think they like the sap.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:59 PM   #162
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I bet that is what it is then. Crazy what they will eat.....virtually anything is fair game for them I guess.

I have just under 2 acres planted in the plot. About 1.5 acres of radishes/oats and the other half acre of just clover/oats.

Some new TC pics. My 4 year old Bushnell Trophy cam just keeps on ticking while my new Primos Ultra 35 really sux.....constantly going thru batteries and have had lots of problems with it not taking pics.

This is the 8 point that walked under my son's treestand during the season....not legal. Glad he made it thru the season...next year he will be nice!


Lots of young bucks like this out there...


Feasting at night...
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:27 PM   #163
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again, sorry if i missed it, but what are your plans for spring? will you be leaving the clover? how has the switchgrass done? i have plans for some switchgrass in my sanctuary and about a 1.25-1.5 acre plot this spring. coopers has some mixes that are really close to what i was planning, like these:

20 lbs. - Iron & Clay Peas
10 lbs. - Tyrome Climbing Soybeans
10 lbs. - Lab Lab Bean
5 lbs. - Hybrid Sorghum -- Wildlife will not eat this sorghum until it full matures!

30% Iron & Clay Peas
30% Tyrone running soybeans
30% Buckwheat
10% Hybrid Sorghum--birds & deer will leave alone until fully matures--excellent for runners like Tyrone to climb up on.

was thinking of doing an acre in something like this and .25-.5 acre in alyce clover.

i agree with everyone else, this is my favorite thread on TBH buddy, awesome information for something i cant wait to get started on my 45 acres in a few weeks.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:32 PM   #164
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The switch grass has been a bust so far. I didn't prep my switch grass area correctly and planted too late in the spring. Switch Grass needs to cold stratify for it to germinate and we never got freezing temps after I planted. I'm hoping I will see some plants come up this year...although weeds and other grasses have taken over. It takes several years to get a good stand of switch grass.

That looks like a good mix for the spring/summer jshouse. I planted something similar to that last spring....the deer and drought wiped it out after about 6 weeks. I like throwing the sorghum in there to let the vining peas to grow up something. The hogs wiped my sorghum out last year but left the peas/beans alone.

I planted Durana (white clover), crimson, and a medium red clover. The Durana and red clover are the most drought tolerant but will still not survive all summer. Hopefully they will reseed...if the deer will let them get taller!!

This year I'm gonna try to get my hands on some Eagle Beans because they grow like crazy and have a better chance of making it on a small plot like and acre or two. The problem is they aren't available til May. I like planting beans/peas earlier than that because of drought and heat.

If I don't plant Eagle Beans I'll plant something similar to your mix......I/C peas, Tyrone or Laredo Soybeans, and Red Top Hybrid sorghum for them to climb up. I was gonna plant lab-lab last year but it was double the price of cowpeas!

I'll also use the red top hybrid sorghum to screen off my plot from the neighbors. It grows 6-8 feet tall.

I'm glad y'all like the thread. I'm learning as I go...something new every year.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:58 PM   #165
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thanks again. i dont have hogs or cows to worry about so i am hoping my first attempt at spring plots is fairly productive and i have access to a water tank/pump if the rainfall is slow.

so do u think it is too late to worry about switchgrass for this year? should i just wait until next winter? i could probably get out and broadcast some then drag it within the next two weeks or as soon as i could find a few pounds of it. we are probably done with the freezing temps for this year but you never know i guess...i was really looking forward to getting the bedding areas started but will wait if its smart.

keep us updated.
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thanks again. i dont have hogs or cows to worry about so i am hoping my first attempt at spring plots is fairly productive and i have access to a water tank/pump if the rainfall is slow.

so do u think it is too late to worry about switchgrass for this year? should i just wait until next winter? i could probably get out and broadcast some then drag it within the next two weeks or as soon as i could find a few pounds of it. we are probably done with the freezing temps for this year but you never know i guess...i was really looking forward to getting the bedding areas started but will wait if its smart.

keep us updated.
You know now is a great time to frost seed switch grass especially if your place is in North Tx. I bet there will be several more mornings of freezes and frosts. You need a good firm seedbed clear of weeds...just broadcasting on the surface is the way to do it. The freezing and thawing action of those frosty mornings is what helps stratify the seed and it will work itself into the soil for good soil contact.

This place usually has it in stock and will sell by the pound of PLS (pure live seed) so you get more for your money. I used Alamo Switch Grass which is a Texas variety.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:50 PM   #167
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ok i will get on it tomorrow, thanks, i sent a pm as well
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:17 AM   #168
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Like others have said this thread is just great! I am planning do plant some small plots on my lease in some lanes that were doze by an O&G company doing seismic testing. those lanes took out some big mesquites and a lot of weeds. Leaving a nice lane of fairly clean soil. The lease is out west some towards Abilene so it will have to be drought tolerate stuff hat I plant.

Again, this is my new favorite thread. Thanks or sharing unclefish.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:27 AM   #169
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Like others have said this thread is just great! I am planning do plant some small plots on my lease in some lanes that were doze by an O&G company doing seismic testing. those lanes took out some big mesquites and a lot of weeds. Leaving a nice lane of fairly clean soil. The lease is out west some towards Abilene so it will have to be drought tolerate stuff hat I plant.

Again, this is my new favorite thread. Thanks or sharing unclefish.
Cool...since mesquites are legumes they fix Nitrogen into the soil so you shouldn't need to add much N to your plots for a while!
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:45 AM   #170
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Nice!
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:01 PM   #171
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My next project arrived today....

25 bare root Chinkapin Oaks from the Texas Forest Service.



The tree trunks are anywhere from 2 to 3 foot long.


The bare roots overall are fair to average size....nothing like the pines I got from the NC forest which were outstanding.


I'm gonna try to plant them this weekend.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:08 PM   #172
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Cool trees
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:48 PM   #173
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Do you use any watersorb when planting those?
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:34 PM   #174
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I haven't ever used it but have heard it it. I'll see if I can pick some up.

Edit: I can get the Miracle Gro Water Storing Crystals local. So I'll try it.

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Old 02-18-2013, 04:41 PM   #175
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I had today off so my son Kyle and I snuck off to the farm.

We planted 8 Chinkapin oaks and tree tubed them. I put some water storing crystals in the dirt with the Chinkapins because their root systems are really pathetic (from the Texas state nursery).

We also watered the the Virginia pines....which has turned out to be a pretty good failure. Something has eaten to tops and about 40% of them are completely pulled out of the ground. The rest are doing fair....we will see how they do this spring.

Food plot update - the radishes have bolted so it won't be long before the deer completely abandon them.


Still got some good TC pics even though they are flowering.









I moved the TC's to the oats/clover combo because they are still destroying it.

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Old 02-18-2013, 10:08 PM   #176
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Great thread! We are just getting started with our very first food plots. We have disked several areas that we want to plant in. The soil is pretty sandy.
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:05 PM   #177
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I had to mow the radishes down.....they were getting tall and flowering.



Doing work....


Trail of radish destruction...


Close up of the carnage.....lots of good organic matter for the soil.


The radishes helped protect the clover and oats I planted with them. They will take off now!
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Wide view of the mowed radishes.


The trail cams caught this jackass on a tractor.


Does eating clover/oats combo...




Small buck...


Nice young buck....I've never seen him before on camera.
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He likes the clover.


This doe looks preggo to me....
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U gonna till the oats?
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:53 PM   #181
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U gonna till the oats?
I'll let them go a while longer and then spray them. The deer are still on them good.

I'll probably till them right before I plant soybeans. I try to till as little as possible to preserve moisture and not disturb the native seed bank.
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Your clover and oats are looking good!
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Looks good.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:49 PM   #184
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We fished at L. Somerville today and swung by my place to pick up a trailer.

We got an inch of rain last night and like everyone else.....we really needed it. Things are greening up and I seem to be getting less TC pics of them on the plots. The clover looks great.



The oats are still being hit.....but they are tillering pretty good and will soon become tough and not attractive for the deer.


The deer are still hitting the plot...but the activity has dropped off alot.




I'm about to buy seed and start planting spring/summer plots...I checked soil temps today and they are almost 65 degrees already.
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looks good, i am waiting on the spring seeds to show up as well, and then pray for rain!
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Outstanding thread! Thanks for sharing. Gave me a bunch of ideas.
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Old 03-22-2013, 03:52 PM   #187
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I fixed fence today because I had some stray cattle from the neighbors rummaging through my plot. They won't be getting in anytime soon! I freaking hate cattle with a passion.

I decided not to plant today. There's not enough moisture in the ground and no rain forecast for least a week. Plus I want to let my oats grow a little taller before I nuke them (more organic matter).

I did put down 1000 pounds of lime today. When I started this plot a pH was 4.9. After lots of hard work with a push spreader for several years... the pH is in the low 6 range now.
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I can't get a big lime truck back to this spot. So it's all gotta be done by hand.

The Durana clover is blooming out and kicking the other clover's butt!
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I still haven't found any shed antlers yet. There was mostly cattle on my trail cam pictures so I won't bore you with pictures of my sworn enemy.

There was a dead mama cow with a dead new born calf hanging out of her. Its the neighbors cattle and they don't take care of them. Sad deal.

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Uncle fish, I'm obsessed lately with planting an orchard on my place in east texas of apples, pears and persimmons. It'll take 3-5 years to drop fruit but once it starts dropping fruit, it'll continue to drop it for up to 50 years with each tree yielding 250 lbs of fruit per year. You can mix early fruit dropping trees (Aug/Sept) with later dropping trees (Nov/Dec) and have your orchard drop fruit all during bow and rifle season. It's high energy food and helps the deer digest its food better.

My question is, have you thought about an orchard? I'm going to copy your plot and concentrate my efforts on what was successful for you and then plant the orchard, I just need to pick the location for both.
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Uncle fish, I'm obsessed lately with planting an orchard on my place in east texas of apples, pears and persimmons. It'll take 3-5 years to drop fruit but once it starts dropping fruit, it'll continue to drop it for up to 50 years with each tree yielding 250 lbs of fruit per year. You can mix early fruit dropping trees (Aug/Sept) with later dropping trees (Nov/Dec) and have your orchard drop fruit all during bow and rifle season. It's high energy food and helps the deer digest its food better.

My question is, have you thought about an orchard? I'm going to copy your plot and concentrate my efforts on what was successful for you and then plant the orchard, I just need to pick the location for both.
Long term absolutely I would love to have an orchard full of pears and persimmons. I decided to go with nuts (chestnuts, sawtooths, chinkapins) instead of fruits this year. I like starting trees myself and I only have so much space here at home that my wife is willing to let me take up.

Nursery trees either have bad root systems or they are too expensive (usually both). I tried last year to plant some sawtooths and several different hybrid oaks in the spring. Total failure. The summer ate their lunch. I planted some more several weeks ago but in the future all my trees will be plant in the fall. Much better chance of making it!
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u looking to sell any of those chestnuts this fall?
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Old 03-23-2013, 01:38 PM   #191
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Everything looks great. I'd love to actually own some land that I could improve
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:02 PM   #192
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Yep I might have some extras jshouse.....remind me again in Sept.

Thanks Outback. My place is small but it sure keeps me busy and the hunting is good. I hope you get your wish and can buy a place someday.
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:08 PM   #193
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Yep I might have some extras jshouse.....remind me again in Sept.

Thanks Outback. My place is small but it sure keeps me busy and the hunting is good. I hope you get your wish and can buy a place someday.
will do sir, thanks
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:38 PM   #194
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wow, what a good foodplot thread. do you plow the plot under and let the organic matter help with ph and nutrients?
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wow, what a good foodplot thread. do you plow the plot under and let the organic matter help with ph and nutrients?
No I'm not gonna till at all. I'm gonna let the oats get a little taller and then broadcast seeds into it. Then nuke it with round up and then roll it with my cultipacker.

You need to use more seed than when drilling but germination is not quite as good but its a heck of a lot easier.

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Old 04-02-2013, 03:33 PM   #196
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The experiment has begun. I planted today with no tilling at all. I broadcast the seeds.....

I/C peas
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Inoculated soybeans
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I also planted some sorghum and corn to give the peas something to climb up.

Then I cultipacked, mowed, and sprayed
Its raining right now. I hope the Gly doesn't wash off with this rain.

We had 6/10ths on Sunday and the creek is finally running again.
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:45 PM   #197
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looks great uncle
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I hope it grows for you!
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:36 AM   #199
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Some of the soybeans and peas are up. Decent germination...not great...but I expected that going in with the no plow method.

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I didn't get a great kill with the Gly but most of it is oats.... which won't make it past May anyway.
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I fertilized and its raining as I type...got to love it.

The clover looks outstanding...
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Durana and crimson...
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:43 AM   #200
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I planted some chinqapin oaks and they are budding out in the tree tubes.
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About half of the Virginia Pines are doing good.
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The other half is either dead or pulled up by critters.


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