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Old 07-30-2018, 11:54 AM   #1
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Default Help Picking an Elk Arrow ASAP!!!!

Ok guys, I need some help deciding on an arrow and Iím running short on time. Iím headed to NM for my elk hunt September 1st so timing has become critical. I have it narrowed down to the following set ups. Bow is a Hoyt Carbon Defiant, 29Ē draw, and pulling 71lbs. I will most likely end up shooting Magnus Stingers.

Carnivore 250 Spine shooting 262 FPS, 520 grains, and approximately 15% FOC. This is with a 100 grain tip.

Spartan 300 Spine shooting 278 FPS, approximately 450 grains and 10% FOC. This is with a 125 grain tip.

At 20 yards my groups are about 3/4Ē smaller with the Spartan, but I really wanted a heavier arrow and more FOC. I understand that there is 30 and 75 grain weight that can be added to the Spartan, but Iím not sure how much that will change my accuracy of that set up. I have a 175 grain field point I could test with, but havenít done that yet. Iím figuring if I go with a 30 grain weight I will lose about 10FPS.

Like I said, I need to make a decision quickly so i can get my arrows built and get dialed in. Also note that I have not tuned to bow to either arrow, but will have that done when I make a decision.

Please help!
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:02 PM   #2
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move back to 60-70 yards and see which flies better and which one youre more comfortable with shooting. doesnt matter the arrow, a sharp broadhead put in the right place will do the trick.
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:28 PM   #3
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with the stinger head being such a great penetrator the extra weight might not even be needed,,, like was already stated back up a good distance and shoot them both with the stinger see which one flies the best
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:29 PM   #4
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I like the looks of the 520 gr. Are both arrows the same od. If not then that could be your grouping problem. I don’t know the od with out looking. But if the od of the Spartan is smaller then the 250 spine is pointing up. Even just a few thousands can make enough to change grouping.
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:57 PM   #5
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Ok I looked up the carnivores and the Spartans. There is an over all difference of .021 on od. So unless you are retuning for the shafts. The. Yes you will see a grouping difference between the two.
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Old 07-30-2018, 02:55 PM   #6
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Ok I looked up the carnivores and the Spartans. There is an over all difference of .021 on od. So unless you are retuning for the shafts. The. Yes you will see a grouping difference between the two.
Yeah I am sure this is part of the problem. I am considering taking the Carnivore and having my bow tuned to it and see what happens.
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Old 07-30-2018, 04:09 PM   #7
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PM Muddyfuzzy he'll hook you up
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Old 07-30-2018, 10:37 PM   #8
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PM Muddyfuzzy he'll hook you up
He has already been helping. Great guy!

I stretched out to 40 yards today and the groups werenít as drastically different between the two. Iím gonna shoot some more and try to get to 50 and see what happens. Might try to get some adjustments made to my bow to account for the larger diameter arrow.
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Old 07-31-2018, 08:24 AM   #9
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He has already been helping. Great guy!

I stretched out to 40 yards today and the groups werenít as drastically different between the two. Iím gonna shoot some more and try to get to 50 and see what happens. Might try to get some adjustments made to my bow to account for the larger diameter arrow.
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Old 07-31-2018, 12:05 PM   #10
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I shoot the Spartans 300/.001 with a 30gr brass insert. Flies great and has great penetration. Hoyt CS34 68# 29"
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