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Old 02-13-2018, 11:40 AM   #51
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I had some old neighbors whose plan was to home school their three boys through elementary school then let them start regular school in the 6th grade. Very good kids. They all played sports and went to the home schooled kids camps and other normal activities.

Our kids all grew up together since birth, my oldest daughter is the same age as their oldest son. They would be starting 6th grade together.

It didn't go well at all. Neighbor had asked me to ask my oldest to keep an eye on him and see if she notices anything or ask her friends that have classes with him what they are seeing a couple weeks into the semester.

He had alot of issues. In group classwork assignments he couldn't grasp classmates disagreeing with his point of view, un-willing to go with others opinions, couldn't grasp having different teachers that don't all act like, would get frustrated when the teachers didn't call on him, cried alot when teachers disciplined him in front of the class. His grades started suffering because he basically started checking out from all the anxiety he felt. And of course he got picked on from all of this. He made it a semester. They ended up moving because he was terrified of going back there. They had to place most of the blame on themselves since this was their idea not thinking of the repercussions.

I saw them all at a party last year. He is doing much better now. They found a smaller school and still has some issues but its way more manageable now. Back to making all A's too.

I asked if the other younger brothers are still being home schooled. Said no. And they aren't the same kids anymore. Way more outgoing and had an easier transition since they were younger.

He said their marriage is the best it had ever been. Wifey took it really hard at first because she thought she had done everything the right way and wasn't prepared for the results when reality hit. When the kids all started school she decided to be very active volunteering, chaperoning, PTA and the likes. She made a ton of new friends since and has a life outside of the house that she didn't have for 12 years.

In the end home schooling just wasn't good for them.

Great to hear the success story's here though!!!

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Old 02-13-2018, 12:57 PM   #52
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We HS our two boys, well my wife does 99% of it(Iím a shift worker). We are very blessed because she works full time from home and is still able to HS them. This is our second year and it seems to be going pretty well. Our neighbor is a PS teacher and she is giving them a placement test, just for us to know where they are, very soon. Like stated above, there are pros and cons. But the pros are pretty outstanding.....History lesson by the pond
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Looks about like my experience being homeschooled.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:31 PM   #53
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If you have a child that is exceptional on either side of the curve the public school system will fail them. That said that doesn't make you qualified to help them succeed.

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This statement is wrong on many levels. My daughter is a national merit scholar and will be the valedictorian of her class next year. She goes to a public school and has since kindergarten. The only way any school will fail them is if the parents allow it. No matter the school environment, student success almost always correlates with parent involvement. Very few kids excel when there are low expectations.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:41 PM   #54
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This statement is wrong on many levels. My daughter is a national merit scholar and will be the valedictorian of her class next year. She goes to a public school and has since kindergarten. The only way any school will fail them is if the parents allow it. No matter the school environment, student success almost always correlates with parent involvement. Very few kids excel when there are low expectations.


Well said...and my kids are in private/home school combination.
I did not have a problem with the public school because my wife and i are very involved in our kids education. That said, i could not convince her that we would make up for any pub.school decencies.
I did let her know that my son was absolutely going to go to public school when he gets to 6-7 grade because he is going to play sports.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:42 PM   #55
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After 30 years married to a school teacher in a public school I can tell you you're wrong. You're child would have been further ahead in a private learning institution. Teachers spend so much time on the ones who aren't going to excel, who don't have parents making them do their home work, who don't value the education or cannot that the higher kids aren't given what they need either.

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Old 02-14-2018, 10:12 AM   #56
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After 30 years married to a school teacher in a public school I can tell you you're wrong. You're child would have been further ahead in a private learning institution. Teachers spend so much time on the ones who aren't going to excel, who don't have parents making them do their home work, who don't value the education or cannot that the higher kids aren't given what they need either.

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As a teacher in public schools for 25 years, I don't think I am wrong. We as teachers in the public school are hamstrung a little in that we have to deal kids of all levels and backgrounds. There may be times when the top level students are left to expand on some thing while teacher has to help lower level kids. But they will be doing that when they get to college if they choose to go that route. Private schools don't have to deal with that. They get to pick and choose who they want to attend. I have taught thousands of kids over the last 25 years. All of the best one's had parent's who had high expectations. I think a quality education is available to all who want it. At least that has been my observation. Now I have always worked at smaller secondary schools with the exception of one stretch at a 4A school. I have no experience with larger schools or the elementary level.
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:18 AM   #57
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Of course it does, the parent is the most denominator of a childs success, homeschool or not.
Exactly!!!!

Parent life at home has so much to do with it and their attitude and work ethic. Not a teacher
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:23 AM   #58
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Pro- move at kids pace and he can advance quicker- you know exactly where kid is at
Cons- socialization can be difficult and donít get put in negative situations that they have to solve. No school events - prom, clubs, sports. They do have leagues for activities but not the same

Weigh it- try it- you can always go back. I would say it is probably better for young kids but think pre teen years on it may have some drawbacks. I had two girls that were home schooled move in next to me in college. It was great- they had years of catching up to do and I lived next door
I know in Texas, if you are home schooled you may play sports at your zoned public school. Had a kid on our team in high school that was home schooled.
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:30 AM   #59
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I know in Texas, if you are home schooled you may play sports at your zoned public school. Had a kid on our team in high school that was home schooled.
Don't think so. This is from the UIL handbook. This is why there are home school teams now.

UIL Eligibility Standards
The sole purpose of eligibility rules and contest regulations is to keep competition equitable and to maintain activities in proper perspective. It is the responsibility of each school to see that students do not compete unless they comply with all eligibility rules. It is also the responsibility of the student to observe and obey these standards. According to UIL standards, students are eligible to represent their school in interscholastic activities if they:

have not graduated from high school,
are full-time, day students in the school, and have been in regular attendance at the school since the 6th class day of the present school year, or have been in regular attendance for 15 or more calendar days before the contest or competition,
are in compliance with state law and rules of the Commissioner of Education, (see TEA-UIL Side By Side)
are enrolled in a four year, normal program of high school courses, and initially enrolled in the 9th grade not more than 4 years ago nor in the 10th grade not more than 3 years ago,
were not recruited,
are not in violation of the awards rule, and
meet the specific eligibility requirements for academic, music and/or athletic competition.
Eligibility for Academic Contests
meet all the requirements above, and
have not changed schools for the purpose of participating in a UIL academic contest.
Eligibility for Music Contests
meet all the requirements above, and
have not changed schools for the purpose of participating in a UIL music contest.
Eligibility for Athletic Contests
meet all the requirements above,
are less than 19 years old on September 1 preceding the contest or have been granted eligibility based on a disability that delayed their education by at least one year,
live with their parents inside the school district attendance zone their first year of attendance (see your school administrator for exceptions),
have not moved or changed schools for athletic purposes,
have not violated the athletic amateur rule, and
were eligible according to the fifteen day rule and the residence rule prior to district certification.
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:35 AM   #60
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Don't think so. This is from the UIL handbook. This is why there are home school teams now.

UIL Eligibility Standards
The sole purpose of eligibility rules and contest regulations is to keep competition equitable and to maintain activities in proper perspective. It is the responsibility of each school to see that students do not compete unless they comply with all eligibility rules. It is also the responsibility of the student to observe and obey these standards. According to UIL standards, students are eligible to represent their school in interscholastic activities if they:

have not graduated from high school,
are full-time, day students in the school, and have been in regular attendance at the school since the 6th class day of the present school year, or have been in regular attendance for 15 or more calendar days before the contest or competition,
are in compliance with state law and rules of the Commissioner of Education, (see TEA-UIL Side By Side)
are enrolled in a four year, normal program of high school courses, and initially enrolled in the 9th grade not more than 4 years ago nor in the 10th grade not more than 3 years ago,
were not recruited,
are not in violation of the awards rule, and
meet the specific eligibility requirements for academic, music and/or athletic competition.
Eligibility for Academic Contests
meet all the requirements above, and
have not changed schools for the purpose of participating in a UIL academic contest.
Eligibility for Music Contests
meet all the requirements above, and
have not changed schools for the purpose of participating in a UIL music contest.
Eligibility for Athletic Contests
meet all the requirements above,
are less than 19 years old on September 1 preceding the contest or have been granted eligibility based on a disability that delayed their education by at least one year,
live with their parents inside the school district attendance zone their first year of attendance (see your school administrator for exceptions),
have not moved or changed schools for athletic purposes,
have not violated the athletic amateur rule, and
were eligible according to the fifteen day rule and the residence rule prior to district certification.
Just read that..well I guess my team was cheating We had a HS kid on our varsity baseball team back in 2004 (we still sucked). I also just read that Texas tried to pass the Tebow bill and it stalled out in the house.. go figure.
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:38 AM   #61
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there has been a push for this to occur, but it has never passed. Probably never will in Texas.
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Old 02-14-2018, 11:16 AM   #62
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This is our first year to home school and we are happy with it. The kids do a blended model where they go to a classroom 3 days a week and the wife teaches them at home for 2 days a week.

I was honestly not for it when my wife initially brought it up, but now I am a believer. I had the same reservations about socialization, group skills, learning how to work with others, ect. My parents, in laws and my brothers were even concerned. However, I quickly realized what a lot of others have said on here and that it really depends on the child. Between the two days a week in a classroom, their church youth group, and sports I don't think they are missing out on the social aspects a regular school would provide.

I use our time at the ranch to help reinforce what they learned in the week or to help teach them new lessons. I used the time I was dressing and skinning out a doe to reinforce their biology lesson for the week. Lucky for me my dad (a doctor) was there and as the kids had more focused questions, he was able to help answer them. He was extremely impressed and he even realizes now that home school is really a neat option.

I know my daughters love it because they are able to move as fast as they want through their favorite subjects and able to take their time on the subjects they have more difficulty with. I can honestly say that I think they enjoy learning more now with home school than they did at the private school they attended before we moved.

The real credit goes to my wife. It is a lot of work and she does one hell of a job keeping them on task and making sure they stay the course.

I realize home school might not be for every parent or child, but I do know after our experience that it should be considered as an option.
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