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Old 07-17-2017, 03:53 PM   #1
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Default How to get rid of stickers (north Texas)

How in the heck do I get rid of these dang things? I live outside of north west Fort Worth. If I pick them It will probally take a while cause I have at least a solid half acre of them. Anybody have any ideas on how to kill em? I bag my grass when I mow to try and not spread them but they are still getting worse. My neighbors don't do anything to prevent them so I know that doesn't help but I'd like to at least have less of them. So what do y'all say some of y'all are geniuses when it comes to this kinda stuff! Any and all advice is appreciated!



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Old 07-17-2017, 03:57 PM   #2
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Hurts my skin just looking at that.. Good luck to you!

Maybe set it ablaze?
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:01 PM   #3
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You can kill it all with "round up" or equivalent. But all those stickers are in the soil and will just grow new ones. Best to spray a pre emergent

I believe it's called "prowler" but its been awhile

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Old 07-17-2017, 04:03 PM   #4
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Looks like sandburs are all you have. I would suggest MSMA if you had any bermuda, but you looks like you might as well roundup the whole yard!
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:03 PM   #5
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You can try MSMA. Its pretty pricey but a little goes a long way.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:05 PM   #6
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They also don't like fertilizer very much, but you need a replacement grass, like bermuda.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:06 PM   #7
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You can try MSMA. Its pretty pricey but a little goes a long way.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:06 PM   #8
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there is a product called image. it has field sandbur listed on the label. you will also want to put down a pre-emergent that has it listed as well. don't waste you time on msma, unless you own a golf course and have an applicators license you won't be able to get it and even those guys may not be able to get it any more. I have had good luck with image.


Edit: upon further research it appears you can purchase msma. I am going to have a little discussion with my supplier about this. I love this product but was under the assumption it was banned by the epa and only available to golf courses.

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Old 07-17-2017, 04:07 PM   #9
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Msma will kill them but not stop regrowth
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:07 PM   #10
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If possible burn the area, then start using heavy applications of preemergent. .If there are stickers on adjoining land then nothing will work because they keep being spread by animals.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:08 PM   #11
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I bought some pre emergent with fertilizer at our feed store. Treated my yard in march then again 60 days later then one more time in October. Took couple years but my stickers are gone. I still treat twice in the spring. That would be a future plan of attack to keep them away. Not sure what to do currently. They are a PITA
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there is a product called image. it has field sandbur listed on the label. you will also want to put down a pre-emergent that has it listed as well. don't waste you time on msma, unless you own a golf course and have an applicators license you won't be able to get it and even those guys may not be able to get it any more. I have had good luck with image.
Image is what I was thinking of not prowler
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:12 PM   #13
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What did you guys have success with pre-emergent wise and the schedule for application?
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:15 PM   #14
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Penicillin usually works but might need something stronger if................... oh wait should of read the rest of the title.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:18 PM   #15
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MSMA early and often.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:20 PM   #16
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Those were called Magnolia strawberries in the 60s
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:16 PM   #18
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Run back and forth across the area barefoot and with shorts on. Collect all the seed like that, put it in a trashbag....I've killed them with roundup, and burned them up with fertilizer before.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:21 PM   #19
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I have been digging them for 2.5 years. I'm finally winning. But, I didn't have that many.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:24 PM   #20
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Corn gluten as pre-emergent. Don't know ratio though.
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:37 PM   #21
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It's a constant battle. Image has helped. Pulling the old fashioned way has helped more! Seed heads can remain dormant from 7-10yrs.
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http://ktrh.iheart.com/articles/gard...#ixzz4n6M1wynr

Interesting enough, I just ran across this on facebook today.
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Yep, put it down in Jan or Feb.
10 pounds per 1000sq. ft..
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:10 PM   #24
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Baylan, surflan or treflan. Any of these preemergents but they need put out in January or February before the growth starts. Check with your local feed and fertilizer dealer.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:25 PM   #25
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Drag a tote sack behind your mower.
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Old 07-18-2017, 08:48 AM   #26
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Well I appreciate the help looks like I have a lot of work ahead of me!!! I wonder how much them fellers at the corner of homedepot will charge me to start pulling stickers
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:12 AM   #27
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I have them in my yard in Houston, and after it rains, they seem to grow and put out their 'burrs' so I walk around with a hoe and take care of them.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:46 AM   #28
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That sucks, I fought that battle in my last house and never really found the answer. I hated it because I don't like wearing shoes but I had to start wearing them living there.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:53 AM   #29
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One of our neighbors at the beach use to lay on his belly and scoot all over the yard pulling them. Hate those sand burs. Them and fire ants are a constant battle.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:57 AM   #30
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I haven't had much luck with Image. I've sprayed multiple times and they keep on keepin' on. I'll give the preemergents a try next winter....along with a tow sack.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:06 AM   #31
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:11 AM   #32
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Round up and then a pear burner once they are dead and brown.
Have a water hose handy and no wind. A controlled burn will get the seeds.
My grandpa used to burn off his pastures about once every 5 years just to kill sand burrs.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:11 AM   #33
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The best defense to any weed is a healthy yard of grass. Bermuda will do good. and keep it mowed as often as you can - it doesn't require a lot of water. if only a half acre, this should be manageable.

are there any goats that eat these things???
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:52 PM   #34
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DuPont Pastora works great as an early POST EMERGENT. Soil temp has to be over 68 degrees and actual burrs cannot be formed on plant shaft. Kills them but doesn't harm coastal Bermuda.

Burn your yard every other year. Grass burrs can sprout after laying dormant for over 7 years. Been fighting them in pastures for over 50 years
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:11 PM   #35
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Well, it depends... are you talking about treating a small (residential) area or a big hay field/ pasture?

Regardless, timing is the key to success on sandburs. Most replies are good, but they miss the timing. Get a soil sample (anytime) and find out what kind of nitrogen you need to grow the grass you want. A lawn and garden or farm store should be able to help you with it. Put out your fertilizer in Dec - Jan.

Then, if you are treating a small area that you can hook a hose up to spray, put out Image as a pre-emergent in mid to late February. Come back in April and hit it with MSMA ONLY if it is safe for the desirable grass. When you mow in June, about a week later if there is decent soil moisture, spray MSMA again.

If you are treating a pasture, after you fertilize in Dec-Jan, and as close to February 15, put out Prowl H20. Apply Pastora in April when the soil temps are above 68 degrees. Apply Pastora after each hay cutting, within a week.

It is expensive to treat for sandburs but with high nitrogen levels and proper herbicide application, you can knock it back by 90-95% and then spend the next 7 years taking care of the rest. The guy with BASF told me the seed heads are viable for 7 years.

I have noticed on my neighbors' place, he fertilizes like he's feeding race horses and in one year he killed off 95% + of the sandburs over 100 acres. The thicker the desirable grass, the less chance the sandburs will survive. I've seen that, too, on my own place.

Do not expose the ground with bare soil by burning it off (it won't kill the sandburs anyway) or by spraying Roundup. You will only make your weed problem worse.
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:30 PM   #36
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Dusty Britches is right. I have seen good results from Spot Burning with a portable pear burner in established coastal patches. When the burrs are dry, it is very hard to dig them up without hundreds shaking off the stalk and falling on the ground.

No matter what you do, fighting grass burrs is a multi YEAR process. Much like Feral Hogs, there is no Silver Bullet to solve the problem instantly. Good luck
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:01 PM   #37
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I hate those things. I don't have many in my yard and the few I have are consolidated to one small area. They still drive me nuts. I'm constantly picking g them. I my folks' house has 4 acres. When I was a kid, they were plentiful there. For years, I remember the whole family being out there dragging around trash bags and picking them by hand. It took a lot of work, but I can't recall the last time I saw one on that property. I bet it's been at least 25 years, maybe 30. I do not envy you, sir.

BTW, I thought the EPA did away with MSMA. I haven't seen it in about 8 years. The nursery where I used to buy it said they quit manufacturing it.

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Old 07-18-2017, 04:33 PM   #38
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Pre-emerge in late feb early march, 60 days later and then in mid-late september before fall rains. It takes time but it WILL get them gone and improve your other grasses.

Simazine is a liquid that is a pre-emergent if you have a sprayer

If memory serves fire needs to be way way way hotter than a pear burner to kill the seeds( the number in my head is 700 degrees but i cant fact check that)... the sticker will burn releasing 7 seeds that will grow in the spring.

Legaly, there are some chemicals that work as post emerge... but if memory serves they are only aproved for "golf courses and right of ways"... sooo if anybody ask you are working on your putting green

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Old 07-18-2017, 04:37 PM   #39
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wait until they get good and hard and drag a piece of carpet behind your tractor/mower this fall. Treat any that come up in the spring with msma.

I have battled these a-holes for years and i promise you that is the best course of action. If you are feeling really frisky you can use pre-em too. The carpet is the most important part of the equation.
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Sandburs love acidic soil. The best way to get rid of them and prevent new growth is to raise the pH

Do this by applying lime, lots of lime.
Also spray the plants that are there now with roundup or msma. Hell gasoline will do the same thing, but it takes a lil longer to grow back.
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Old 07-19-2017, 05:02 PM   #41
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pre-emergent two times a year. It will keep them from coming up. You still have to do this from now till forever.
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Old 07-19-2017, 05:36 PM   #43
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I hate those things. I don't have many in my yard and the few I have are consolidated to one small area. They still drive me nuts. I'm constantly picking g them. I my folks' house has 4 acres. When I was a kid, they were plentiful there. For years, I remember the whole family being out there dragging around trash bags and picking them by hand. It took a lot of work, but I can't recall the last time I saw one on that property. I bet it's been at least 25 years, maybe 30. I do not envy you, sir.

BTW, I thought the EPA did away with MSMA. I haven't seen it in about 8 years. The nursery where I used to buy it said they quit manufacturing it.
You still buy MSMA. Go to a feed store.
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there is a product called image. it has field sandbur listed on the label. you will also want to put down a pre-emergent that has it listed as well. don't waste you time on msma, unless you own a golf course and have an applicators license you won't be able to get it and even those guys may not be able to get it any more. I have had good luck with image.


Edit: upon further research it appears you can purchase msma. I am going to have a little discussion with my supplier about this. I love this product but was under the assumption it was banned by the epa and only available to golf courses.

EPA only did enough to keep it off the shelves at Walmart, hardware stores, etc. As stated above, you can still buy it in 2.5 gal. at farm and ranch locations like COOP. MSMA and then fertilize and lime.
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Old 07-19-2017, 09:18 PM   #47
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spray with diesel fuel and burn. about a month later do it again. Your problem this year will be gone. About March start doing it every month until about now. Year 3 and you don't have any problems. Did it around my house and worked great
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