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Old 12-05-2017, 02:45 PM   #451
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Old 12-05-2017, 03:11 PM   #452
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Old 12-05-2017, 03:21 PM   #453
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:46 PM   #454
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If one gets a trust do they have to go through the long wait to purchase more suppressors?
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:42 PM   #455
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If one gets a trust do they have to go through the long wait to purchase more suppressors?
I just bought my second suppressor from SilencerShop, they retain your records so there’s no paperwork that needs to be done on your end the second time around (assuming your trust is already set up and they have the info on file).

You still have to go through the wait for approval of the tax stamp, every time..

Someone else posted something about just buying one every year so that you’ve always got one on the way.. I like that idea
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:49 PM   #456
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Is it faster if you go as an invidual? Or a trust?
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Old 12-05-2017, 10:03 PM   #457
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About the same now


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Old 12-05-2017, 10:30 PM   #458
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Not the data I am seeing. 324 days for trust vs 212 for individual. Everyone claims the backlog will clear but I haven't seen anything concrete to convince me.

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Old 12-05-2017, 11:50 PM   #459
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How the s*** is a trust taking longer than an individual?? That’s news to me. When I bought mine the trust was way faster.


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Old 12-06-2017, 08:06 AM   #460
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How the s*** is a trust taking longer than an individual?? That’s news to me. When I bought mine the trust was way faster.


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This has happened since 41F. I think it was the ATF punishing trust holders. Look at the curve and the individuals immediately started bending down (now 3-4 months) and the Trusts just started bending down (now 9-12 months)
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:18 AM   #461
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How the s*** is a trust taking longer than an individual?? That’s news to me. When I bought mine the trust was way faster.


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been this way for months
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:19 AM   #462
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That is some BS if I ever heard it! Darn alphabet agencies....
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:48 AM   #463
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How the s*** is a trust taking longer than an individual?? That’s news to me. When I bought mine the trust was way faster.


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Possibly on purpose to sway people to individuals but there’s more paperwork involved with a trust since there’s multiple people on a trust.
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:19 AM   #464
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I had lunch with a guy from ATF recently. They're just a bureaucracy. The examiners aren't out to treat Trusts like a red-headed stepchild. They were given almost no guidance on how to process Trusts post-41F. No help on how to delineate Responsible Persons. As a result, they just left all the Trusts in a pile while they worked on what they knew how to process: Individuals.

Eventually, guidance was disseminated about how to process Trusts. So now they've turned back to the paperwork mountain and started to tackle it. That's why you see Trust times coming down.

Their methods are archaic. Anyone who used E-Forms knows that software is from the 1980s. But it sure beats #WaitingForHPA
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:03 PM   #465
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I had lunch with a guy from ATF recently. They're just a bureaucracy. The examiners aren't out to treat Trusts like a red-headed stepchild. They were given almost no guidance on how to process Trusts post-41F. No help on how to delineate Responsible Persons. As a result, they just left all the Trusts in a pile while they worked on what they knew how to process: Individuals.

Eventually, guidance was disseminated about how to process Trusts. So now they've turned back to the paperwork mountain and started to tackle it. That's why you see Trust times coming down.

Their methods are archaic. Anyone who used E-Forms knows that software is from the 1980s. But it sure beats #WaitingForHPA


I work for a government agency and this does not surprise me one bit. Just frustrating. But that’s what the government is good at!


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Old 12-08-2017, 12:33 AM   #466
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Guess I should note that I had suppressors & an SBR lower from Jan just clear a couple of weeks ago if that helps anyone keeping tabs.
Lucky! According to Capitol my check was chased mid Jan so waiting for the news any day now!
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:13 PM   #467
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Two suppressors.

F4 trust; 2 Responsible Persons

Forms Mailed 01/13/2017
Checks Cashed 02/4/2017
Approved 12/07/2017
Received at Capitol Armory . . . . ?

328 days from mailed to approved.
307 days from check cashed to approved.
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:36 PM   #468
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Two suppressors.

F4 trust; 2 Responsible Persons

Forms Mailed 01/13/2017
Checks Cashed 02/4/2017
Approved 12/07/2017
Received at Capitol Armory . . . . ?

328 days from mailed to approved.
307 days from check cashed to approved.


Looks like I still have a ways to go.


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Old 12-15-2017, 03:01 PM   #469
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Two suppressors.

F4 trust; 2 Responsible Persons

Forms Mailed 01/13/2017
Checks Cashed 02/4/2017
Approved 12/07/2017
Received at Capitol Armory . . . . ?

328 days from mailed to approved.
307 days from check cashed to approved.
That's infuriating. I filed a form 1 suppressor trust last October and still don't have it.

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Old 12-15-2017, 03:33 PM   #470
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I just got an email from someone from the ATF. Said that he is processing my background check and needed to know the state I was born in. I hope it was legit because I answered. That is the only info I gave them though.
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That's infuriating. I filed a form 1 suppressor trust last October and still don't have it.

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You need to call them. You posted that quote ^^ about them emailing you in two months ago. It should have been pushed through by now. If you can't get the help you need via that email, PM me for a direct number to an ATF examiner who is very helpful.
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:37 PM   #471
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You need to call them. You posted that quote ^^ about them emailing you in two months ago. It should have been pushed through by now. If you can't get the help you need via that email, PM me for a direct number to an ATF examiner who is very helpful.
I have emailed the guy back since then and he just keeps saying my background is on delay.

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Old 12-15-2017, 04:00 PM   #472
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On the bright side of things I sighted in my 300 blackout pistol today and it's a shooter so far.

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Most recent check cashed Dec 4...
F4 trust

Hopefully, I’ll update before deer season starts 2018...


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