Wow, you can now legally 3D print any gun

[kurt68]

Wow, the dude won the case against the US government.

https://www.wired.com/story/a-landmark-legal-shift-opens-pandoras-box-for-diy-guns/?mbid=social_twitter

[mmoses]

The trouble was that he posted the plans on the internet. Not the making of the gun.

Anyone who can own a gun can make their own.

I am surprised that posting was an issue. I'm sure there are machinest plans for AR15 receivers all over the internet.

[35remington]

This is clearly the right decision (modified from elsewhere online). For two reasons:

(1) It's 100% legal under federal law to make your own firearms, and it's also legal to tell other people how to make firearms. You can legally buy and sell 80% complete lower receivers (which are legally not guns), mill them out yourself and make a firearm for your own use. You could also buy and sell technical drawings for guns. You could, for example, buy the technical drawings for an M1 Garand if you felt like it. All of that's legal. If that's legal, I don't see how "do it with a computer" is all that different.

(2) Personally, I buy the freedom of speech argument. I guess it's because I lean libertarian, but I am a lot more comfortable with the government outlawing actions than speech. I don't really want the government telling me what information I can and can't share. And with something so simple as a gun, when does it become a crime to talk about guns? For instance, as a historical gun enthusiast, I'm really interested in how guns work and have evolved over time. If I were to watch a technical lecture on YouTube, or even in a gunsmithing school, and we decided it was illegal to distribute information on how to build guns, where would the line be between an academic discussion on how the gun works and is produced and the crime of distributing gun building information?

[BillMarks]

It's 100% legal under federal law to make your own firearms, and it's also legal to tell other people how to make firearms. You can legally buy and sell 80% complete lower receivers (which are legally not guns), mill them out yourself and make a firearm for your own use. You could also buy and sell technical drawings for guns. You could, for example, buy the technical drawings for an M1 Garand if you felt like it. All of that's legal. If that's legal, I don't see how "do it with a computer" is all that different.

Just want to clarify, to make sure I understand the law. It is legal to make your own firearms unless the firearms you are making are themselves illegal. Correct?

For example, you could not make a gun that was functionally and aesthetically a sawed-off shotgun (unless that is legal where you are) or has a magazine that holds more than the acceptable rounds for the area. Whatever the state laws are for a given state.

Am I wrong?

[35remington]

Just want to clarify, to make sure I understand the law. It is legal to make your own firearms unless the firearms you are making are themselves illegal. Correct?

For example, you could not make a gun that was functionally and aesthetically a sawed-off shotgun (unless that is legal where you are) or has a magazine that holds more than the acceptable rounds for the area. Whatever the state laws are for a given state.

Am I wrong?

You are right. When most of us think "guns," we're really talking about Title I guns.

Title II guns, including but not limited to SBRs, SBSes, silencers, etc. are a whole 'nother ball game.

[Artos]

Can a maker legally sell and/or give away a hand made firearm that does not have a serial number & submitted...forgive the laziness, I didn't read the article.

I know folks have been making their own, just not sure how a transfer falls into place...just assumed that would trigger needing an 07 or some sort of notification & adding ID or SN??

[CEO]

Only way to get one through security at the airport. Gotta be ready for some terries.

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[35remington]

Can a maker legally sell and/or give away a hand made firearm that does not have a serial number & submitted...forgive the laziness, I didn't read the article.

I know folks have been making their own, just not sure how a transfer falls into place...just assumed that would trigger needing an 07 or some sort of notification & adding ID or SN??

My totally speculative opinion would be that if the maker built the gun with the INTENT to transfer it, he could need a FFL. And if he made the gun and then after some time went by decided to transfer it, he would not, unless it could be demonstrated that he had a pattern of that behavior.

Just my two cents on that.

[91cavgt]

What I really like is the government made the distinction that an AR15 is not a military weapon. Heads are gonna be exploding over that one!!!