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Old 03-12-2017, 08:47 PM   #101
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:09 PM   #103
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I believe that...

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Old 03-30-2017, 03:18 PM   #104
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...%22%5D%7D&r=52

Saw this link, showing introduced bills etc.

I noticed a couple of them talked about closing NWR's in Alaska.

Didn't get to read them all...But it's pretty interesting.

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Old 10-19-2017, 07:50 PM   #107
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Old 10-20-2017, 04:36 AM   #108
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I've seen it happen in my lifetime at both richland creek and gus engeling WMA's, they both used to be type 2 public land until 1999-2000, all you had to do was buy the $48 APH permit and you could bowhunt deer all season, 14,000 acres at RC, 10,000 acres at GE. Now both place offer very limited draws, RC hasn't even done a draw deer hunt for the last 2 years. Duck hunting at RC is limited to monday/wednesday/saturday until noon and his year GE is even requiring a draw for hog hunting, both places are very regulated and restricted compared to how they used to be.
What happened to RC? My boys were drawn on a few youth hunts there several years ago, saw a lot of nice deer in there. That's a shame.
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:11 AM   #109
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Already happened at Grapevine. We used to hunt all over that lake. 30 years ago
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Old 10-20-2017, 08:19 AM   #110
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What happened to RC? My boys were drawn on a few youth hunts there several years ago, saw a lot of nice deer in there. That's a shame.
A little more info here http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...pics/6568013/2, I do feel they are still over limiting hunting access to RCWMA, it hasn't been type 2 for a long time where you could just buy the APH permit and just follow the county season and bag limits

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Old 10-21-2017, 01:46 PM   #111
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Well folks, I had a chance to talk to the president of the Texas chapter of backcountry hunters and anglers. Unfortunately he didnít have any idea of what I was talking about with Corp land, and as much as I hate to put someone on blast, they didnít leave me with the greatest sense that they knew what to do about anything.

So far, BHA is touting the win against Kaput hog poison, and not a whole lot else. Problem is that the leadership is spread out all over the state.

Iíve tried to do what I can with what information I had, and I apologize for not keeping up with this thread more but I still think our best bet is to bug the crap out of the Texas chapter of BHA, become a member, and get to know your local Corp office manager. Otherwise nothing is going to change.

The thing about BHA is that it has a lot more money, resources and political backing than anything else we could try to do to pressure Corp land areas into granting more access.

Because really, as BHA puts on their website, theyíre dedicated to increasing access to public lands. If youíve followed TBH lately, there is a heck of a lot of govt land that doesnít allow hunting, even though the land around them are heavily hunted.
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Old 10-21-2017, 06:13 PM   #112
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I'm a member of BHA and I agree that more access to Corps or maybe some of these water control districts for now hunting should be fairly easy sells.

Bow hunting tends to me a little lower impact and risk (to both neighbors and other users) so it really should be an easier sell and help fulfill the BHA mission.


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Old 10-21-2017, 07:58 PM   #113
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And Iím not saying that CoE property is the only one with issues either. There are a myriad of them, such as land locked pieces of national forest/grassland and other things.

It just seems like CoE property is something a lot different than what most folks familiar with BHA deal with since theyíre a largely western organization dealing with BLM and National Forest land.
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:13 PM   #114
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What happened to RC? My boys were drawn on a few youth hunts there several years ago, saw a lot of nice deer in there. That's a shame.
It seems to me the managers of some public land act as if the are frustrated wanna be's. They don't or can't manage some land of their own, so they run public land like it was their own private domain.
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:21 PM   #115
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Well folks, I had a chance to talk to the president of the Texas chapter of backcountry hunters and anglers. Unfortunately he didnít have any idea of what I was talking about with Corp land, and as much as I hate to put someone on blast, they didnít leave me with the greatest sense that they knew what to do about anything.

So far, BHA is touting the win against Kaput hog poison, and not a whole lot else. Problem is that the leadership is spread out all over the state.

Iíve tried to do what I can with what information I had, and I apologize for not keeping up with this thread more but I still think our best bet is to bug the crap out of the Texas chapter of BHA, become a member, and get to know your local Corp office manager. Otherwise nothing is going to change.

The thing about BHA is that it has a lot more money, resources and political backing than anything else we could try to do to pressure Corp land areas into granting more access.

Because really, as BHA puts on their website, theyíre dedicated to increasing access to public lands. If youíve followed TBH lately, there is a heck of a lot of govt land that doesnít allow hunting, even though the land around them are heavily hunted.
This is true for South Texas. We have the Atascosa Wildlife refuge here. We are allowed to hunt in some areas but not others. Then after all the hunters are gone the government pays for a private company to come in and slaughter the animals in the areas were we are not allowed to hunt. Their reasoning is that there are too many animals but they won't let the paying public hunt there. They would rather pay some big company to do it and cover it with tax payer dollars. From my point of view the government is turning the public land in to private land by letting a company come in and skip the draw system and even make money off the government.
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:36 PM   #116
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It seems to me the managers of some public land act as if the are frustrated wanna be's. They don't or can't manage some land of their own, so they run public land like it was their own private domain.
True, true. Its high time for TPW rotate some new guys in to RCWMA maybe Gus too and rotate some current long time guys to other WMA's.
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Old 10-23-2017, 10:07 AM   #117
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To my knowledge there's no group actively advocating on behalf public land hunters in Texas.

As someone mentioned there's a chapter of the BHA, though a good group they're focus seems to mostly be on western states.

There's definitely a need for such a group in Texas.


Iím on the state BOD for BHA and we are in the process of formulating policy initiatives. We need to know what we issues we need to prioritize . Please send me specific cases that need our attention and I will pass on to the board so we can write position pieces and start efforts to change policy.


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Old 10-23-2017, 01:41 PM   #118
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Iím on the state BOD for BHA and we are in the process of formulating policy initiatives. We need to know what we issues we need to prioritize . Please send me specific cases that need our attention and I will pass on to the board so we can write position pieces and start efforts to change policy.


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Good to hear! I wish we could sticky your post because Iím sure youíre going to be getting a lot of info sent your way.
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Old 10-23-2017, 02:08 PM   #119
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Good to hear! I wish we could sticky your post because Iím sure youíre going to be getting a lot of info sent your way.


Send it my way. We were brand new in the state last year and had no money and less influence. We are 400-500 members in the state now and need to get to work making our voice heard.


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Old 10-23-2017, 10:26 PM   #120
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I would definitely put money into this.
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Old 10-24-2017, 11:29 AM   #121
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https://www.backcountryhunters.org/t...ha_news_issues

Here is the "Texas Issues" section on the BHA National Website.

So far we have worked in opposition to commercial sell of venison, warfarin (Kaput) use on feral hogs, and written a position piece in opposition to the development and increased commercial use of the Jones State Forest.

But we are just getting started. I have sent this thread to the board of directors and also the BHA leadership in Montana. We are listening and want to get involved as soon as we can. if you have a specific tract of land that has been affected recently or you are hearing about a policy change/access change that is being proposed please notify me so we can contact who we need to .

If you want to help BHA stay on top of the issues in your area, PM me on here or email me @ jaredkennedy1111@ gmail.com
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Old 10-24-2017, 11:50 AM   #122
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Tagged, I think you guys could do some great good for hunter opportunity with difficulties on certain USACE projects like lavon...
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Here is the "Texas Issues" section on the BHA National Website.



So far we have worked in opposition to commercial sell of venison, warfarin (Kaput) use on feral hogs, and written a position piece in opposition to the development and increased commercial use of the Jones State Forest.



But we are just getting started. I have sent this thread to the board of directors and also the BHA leadership in Montana. We are listening and want to get involved as soon as we can. if you have a specific tract of land that has been affected recently or you are hearing about a policy change/access change that is being proposed please notify me so we can contact who we need to .



If you want to help BHA stay on top of the issues in your area, PM me on here or email me @ jaredkennedy1111@ gmail.com


You may feel it's outside of your/our purview, but I'd like to see an end to prohibition of carrying handguns on most Corps projects, especially for LTC holders.

I'm always a bit nervous going out into my preseason scouting. I try to hunt as far as I can from other hunters. As a result I can make it quite a ways into some places and usually on my own since my hunting partner lives an hour or two from some of our places and I live 20 minutes from a few of them. It hasn't happened to me yet, by I know there have been grows on some of the areas I use. While I'd rather not have any trouble at all I'd certainly prefer to be armed if I should be the person who stumbles onto the next grow...


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You may feel it's outside of your/our purview, but I'd like to see an end to prohibition of carrying handguns on most Corps projects, especially for LTC holders.
Gotta disagree on that one, think that is actually a very appropriate rule.
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Gotta disagree on that one, think that is actually a very appropriate rule.


How so? Keeping in mind that almost all other federal lands are open to LTC/CHL holders...


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All of the USACE areas in texas are restricted to limited range weapons for hunting, don't need guys in there popping deer with pistols, and yes it would happen with some of the yahoos that live around these lakes...
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All of the USACE areas in texas are restricted to limited range weapons for hunting, don't need guys in there popping deer with pistols, and yes it would happen with some of the yahoos that live around these lakes...

So making it double (or triple) illegal will stop criminals? Maybe USACE should prohibit growing, manufacturing, or using illegal drugs on their property too.

There are Corps properties that allow shotgun slugs (I know Bardwell did, but I may have missed it if they changed). I suppose someone could carry a TC and result in something more than "limited range", but is a pistol really going to change that much?

Additionally, there are other public properties that allow rifle hunting, sometimes for deer and sometimes not. How are those different than all the Corps lands?


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Old 12-05-2017, 10:05 AM   #130
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Ladies and gentlemen, I had the opportunity to speak to the chapter president of Texas Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and I can honestly and confidently say, weíve got representation now.

Iím going to be sending him a sample list of some of the information Iíve accrued, but in the future the ultimate goal is to have issues as a state wide level, then specific local issues.

Ideally, if they can get a website up it would have each hunting area and the regulations and concerns facing each area.

But most importantly, this isnít just a few concerned citizens now. Now, itís a concerted effort with national recognition, and the best part is that right now with Secretary Zinke and the current state of affairs over public land, theyíre going to be looking for good publicity wins.

Ultimately, I donít think that there is a SINGLE piece of Corp of Engineers property in the state of Texas with a huntable whitetail population that shouldnít allow bowhunting.

It may have to come from on high at the national level for it to get done, but this is how itís gonna happen folks. Spread the word. Share this post. Get it out there.

If your section of public land is in danger of having access to it limited, hereís your chance to fight back. And hereís your chance to see some areas of public land opened up that may never have been before.
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Get on 'em about Lavon Kirby
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:38 PM   #132
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BHA member here.
Glad to have representation in this state
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Just found this thread. Any recent updates? I noticed the website linked earlier in the thread does not come up. Has everything shifted to the Texas chapter of BHA?
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Momentum for this thing died last year unfortunately. I did get a chance to talk to Mike Panasci last year at the Full Draw Film Tour and Iíve talked to him a few times since over the phone.

The current strategy for BHA is to try to get more Corp of Engineer access. I sent Mike an email with most of the information I had but it wasnít a whole lot unfortunately, and the Keeptexaspublic website looks like itís a goner.

My recommendations would be to contact the Texas chapter of BHA with concerns regarding the Corp area you hunt if you feel that it hasnít been addressed adequately. I only knew of most of the areas surrounding DFW.

The stance on BHA is that if it has a huntable deer population and itís public land, it should be open to bow hunting. In the Northeast you have bowhunters, hikers, cyclists, fisherman and other people coexisting even on some college campuses (forgive me but I cannot remember the specific place) where they had an over abundance of deer.

I donít see why they canít do the same here. The view is that with some of the negative publicity (Utah public land issues) that Trump took in the past few months would be that Secretary Zink is wanting to increase access for political clout. Not saying itís wrong or right, but representation goes a long way, especially when you consider places like Lake Lavon for example.
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Rally your BHA members and you'll get the national folks more involved.
They have been very good getting word out here, Wyoming , about lost access. It very much makes a difference when hundreds of emails and calls are put forth to your elected representatives and TPW officials. Our G&F commission and elected representatives readily acknowledge the emails and contacts make a difference in their decisions.
No group is perfect but they are a loud voice on access issues up here .
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With all the issues going on in western states, it got me to thinking about issues of representation.

What rights do hunters actually have in Texas in regard to public land?

I've watched as the duck hunting areas have been downsized to make homeowners happy on several of the lakes I hunt. I also know of one area in the DFW that will likely cease to allow hunting in the next 5-10 years. Some anti's even put in for draw only units to keep hunters out.

Populations keep increasing with percentage of hunters decreasing. I know the western states have things such as Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, but what all do we have?
Texas does have a chapter of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers. They help fight for access here just like out west. I was originally surprised to see a Texas BHA chapter as I just didnít associate this state with the idea of backcountry. Since joining BHA I have learned that they fight for access all across the country not just out west. Everyone should at least check them out. The Texas chapter holds pint nights all over the state where you can hang out with some like minded individuals and learn what they are all about.

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Not to be a jerk but BHA has been discussed at length in this zombie thread.

They just released their Texas Chapter newsletter as well.
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I would also!
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:11 AM   #139
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We (Texas BHA) are holding a Full Draw Film Tour night at Cinnamon creek July 21. I'll be there as will be the chairman for the state, and the policy chair for Texas. There is a a 3D shoot that starts at 10:00 AM and the movie starts at 4:00 PM. In between we will be hanging out and having a cold beverage or two.

If y'all want to get something going stop by and visit with these guys about what you want addressed with CoE or TPWD. We are a nimble group of fellas eager to work on impactful projects.
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Momentum for this thing died last year unfortunately. I did get a chance to talk to Mike Panasci last year at the Full Draw Film Tour and Iíve talked to him a few times since over the phone.

The current strategy for BHA is to try to get more Corp of Engineer access. I sent Mike an email with most of the information I had but it wasnít a whole lot unfortunately, and the Keeptexaspublic website looks like itís a goner.

My recommendations would be to contact the Texas chapter of BHA with concerns regarding the Corp area you hunt if you feel that it hasnít been addressed adequately. I only knew of most of the areas surrounding DFW.

The stance on BHA is that if it has a huntable deer population and itís public land, it should be open to bow hunting. In the Northeast you have bowhunters, hikers, cyclists, fisherman and other people coexisting even on some college campuses (forgive me but I cannot remember the specific place) where they had an over abundance of deer.

I donít see why they canít do the same here. The view is that with some of the negative publicity (Utah public land issues) that Trump took in the past few months would be that Secretary Zink is wanting to increase access for political clout. Not saying itís wrong or right, but representation goes a long way, especially when you consider places like Lake Lavon for example.
I just read through this thread. Wish I would have seen it sooner, because Houston has two giant reservoirs that hold monster deer that are Army Corp land. Every morning I run it, deer are out feeding. I am going to bring this up at the next BHA event here in Houston.

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Old 07-11-2018, 03:24 PM   #141
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I just read through this thread. Wish I would have seen it sooner, because Houston has two giant reservoirs that hold monster deer that are Army Corp land. Every morning I run it, deer are out feeding. I am going to bring this up at the next BHA event here in Houston.

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Old 07-11-2018, 03:41 PM   #142
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I've been thinking about issues like this pertaining to the spread of urban sprawl, massive influx of people moving here, the loss of wilderness, habitat fragmentation, and the fact that Texas has a tiny amount of land that is protected from development for a long time. In fact I was talking about it just last night. Unchecked development should not take priority over the existence of wild lands and our Texas hunting tradition. We need to flex our influence and push back. I have been and will be all for supporting and helping efforts to maintain and expand protected lands and the rights of hunters to use them.

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Old 07-11-2018, 04:16 PM   #143
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Can’t believe I haven’t seen this thread before. Next stop, BHA website.
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:41 AM   #144
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I'm going to **** someone off with this, but here goes.

I worked in DC for 8 years, 6 of which were as a Republican congressional staffer. I have worked in the oil industry for the past 6. Several years ago, during the Obama administration, the idea spread in Congress to allow state agencies to regulate activities on federal lands within their borders. There were three main reasons for this; 1) the Obama Interior Dept., BLM, and EPA were blocking oil/gas drilling and mining in places that the state/local population supported it and it would be environmentally appropriate; 2) blanket, nationwide federal regulations on oil/gas drilling didn't make sense when the geology of certain places varied wildly, so allowing local control would be better, if not safer; and 3) oil prices back then were $100+, the shale boom had not happened yet, and everyone was scrambling to Drill Baby Drill where the feds had walled off the oil. Bills were introduced but never became law.

What has happened since then is a significant evolution in what should have been a good idea. Now the movement is to transfer all control - ownership - of federal lands to the states to do as they wish with them. This is being spearheaded by Sen. Mike Lee of Utah and to a lesser extent our own Sen. Ted Cruz. In some cases this transfer might mean just what the original idea was all about - more efficient regulation - but what's really going on is a drive from wealthy GOP donors and extreme conservative voices (who do not believe in the basic premise of "public land") to start the process of getting federal land sold to private interests.

I have personally witnessed one of these people urge a Federal Reserve official (who has no influence on this, anyway) to consider if liquidating all federal lands, including national parks, would pay off the deficit. Another cautionary tale is what the Wilks brothers (who have given millions to Cruz campaign committees) have been up to the last few years in Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho - buying land from timber companies and pushing for land swaps with BLM that would have the effect of shutting out the public. The extremist element of this movement is the Ammon Bundy crowd.

Even though a lot of this is a western states problem, the same thing is happening on a smaller scale here with what little public land we have. TPWD is doing what it can with acquisitions like Powderhorn and allowing hunting in some state parks, but it's a faced with a freight train of population movement, land price inflation, and now the "privatization" crowd.

It really is up to us as outdoorsmen and voters to keep the worse case scenario from occurring. That means joining BHA, going to public hearings on these issues, and letting your member of Congress know how this effects us regular people.

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Old 07-12-2018, 03:21 PM   #145
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I'm going to **** someone off with this, but here goes.

I worked in DC for 8 years, 6 of which were as a Republican congressional staffer. I have worked in the oil industry for the past 6. Several years ago, during the Obama administration, the idea spread in Congress to allow state agencies to regulate activities on federal lands within their borders. There were three main reasons for this; 1) the Obama Interior Dept., BLM, and EPA were blocking oil/gas drilling and mining in places that the state/local population supported it and it would be environmentally appropriate; 2) blanket, nationwide federal regulations on oil/gas drilling didn't make sense when the geology of certain places varied wildly, so allowing local control would be better, if not safer; and 3) oil prices back then were $100+, the shale boom had not happened yet, and everyone was scrambling to Drill Baby Drill where the feds had walled off the oil. Bills were introduced but never became law.

What has happened since then is a significant evolution in what should have been a good idea. Now the movement is to transfer all control - ownership - of federal lands to the states to do as they wish with them. This is being spearheaded by Sen. Mike Lee of Utah and to a lesser extent our own Sen. Ted Cruz. In some cases this transfer might mean just what the original idea was all about - more efficient regulation - but what's really going on is a drive from wealthy GOP donors and extreme conservative voices (who do not believe in the basic premise of "public land") to start the process of getting federal land sold to private interests.

I have personally witnessed one of these people urge a Federal Reserve official (who has no influence on this, anyway) to consider if liquidating all federal lands, including national parks, would pay off the deficit. Another cautionary tale is what the Wilks brothers (who have given millions to Cruz campaign committees) have been up to the last few years in Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho - buying land from timber companies and pushing for land swaps with BLM that would have the effect of shutting out the public. The extremist element of this movement is the Ammon Bundy crowd.

Even though a lot of this is a western states problem, the same thing is happening on a smaller scale here with what little public land we have. TPWD is doing what it can with acquisitions like Powderhorn and allowing hunting in some state parks, but it's a faced with a freight train of population movement, land price inflation, and now the "privatization" crowd.

It really is up to us as outdoorsmen and voters to keep the worse case scenario from occurring. That means joining BHA, going to public hearings on these issues, and letting your member of Congress know how this effects us regular people.

All good points. I'm a hard right guy and always have been, but I think the republicans have missed the whole point on public lands, and the money doesn't lie. The speech by Mike Lee last week was asinine and completely twisted. He showed what they really want to accomplish in Utah.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:11 PM   #146
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I just joined BHA. Look forward to going to the events and supporting our cause.


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Old 07-12-2018, 04:15 PM   #147
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Iím gonna start a new thread on this soon since this one is a little broad. We have representation and lobbying power now, but it has to be focused and organized which BHA has going for it, and was what I was looking for when I originally made this post.
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Old 07-12-2018, 05:46 PM   #148
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Protecting Public Land Hunting Rights in Texas - a Corp of Engineer land discussion
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Old 07-12-2018, 05:55 PM   #149
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Old 07-13-2018, 08:16 AM   #150
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All good points. I'm a hard right guy and always have been, but I think the republicans have missed the whole point on public lands, and the money doesn't lie. The speech by Mike Lee last week was asinine and completely twisted. He showed what they really want to accomplish in Utah.


Mike Lee is usually on the side of the angels when it comes to RKBA issues. I wish heíd understand that those broad tracts if public lands out west often allow informal target ranges. Low cost plinking is a great way to introduce new people to shooting and keep them shooting.


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