GOP is keeping Obama care.....Job Security

[Charles]

https://nyti.ms/2tlZD9e

One in three in Kentucky are on Obamacare

lol.

Clear as day now, insuring a bunch of unemployed, drug addicted hillbillies is good for the whole country.

Thank you for the clarification

[AZST_bowhunter]

Anybody that believes O-care was created to benefit poor, uninsured peeps is either delusional or smoking crack. O-care was lobbyist driven so more money could be "given away" by government (ACTUALLY TAX PAYERS) to line the pockets of the coorperations whom in turn pay lobbyist.

You want to solve this country's welfare society, institute a law that prohibits anybody on any type of government assistance from voting.

I'm all about this!! Alexander Fraser was right "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." Maybe just throw a temporary ban on them. Like you can't vote while collecting handouts and for 2 years after... Seems legit to me!!

[Livin'2hunt]

I'm all about this!! Alexander Fraser was right "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." Maybe just throw a temporary ban on them. Like you can't vote while collecting handouts and for 2 years after... Seems legit to me!!

One exception being, we operate under a representative Republic, not a democracy. Be very careful because what you are referring to is confiscating a Constitutionally protected right. If you want to stomp out welfare, tack on a work mandate and a mandatory drug & alcohol test and if found to be in violation, No Mas! That would be the surest way to lose 90% of recipients on day one.

I have known a few people that, due to hard times, resorted to welfare to get them thru. They are people you want to stand and fight with you but they went thru a rough patch financially for one reason or another. In each case, it was no fault of their own. That slope is getting very slippery.

[texansfan]

lol.

Clear as day now, insuring a bunch of unemployed, drug addicted hillbillies is good for the whole country.

Thank you for the clarification

I guess you don't have any drunk or unemployed folks in your family.

Things are good when they're great
Until....

[texansfan]

One exception being, we operate under a representative Republic, not a democracy. Be very careful because what you are referring to is confiscating a Constitutionally protected right. If you want to stomp out welfare, tack on a work mandate and a mandatory drug & alcohol test and if found to be in violation, No Mas! That would be the surest way to lose 90% of recipients on day one.

I have known a few people that, due to hard times, resorted to welfare to get them thru. They are people you want to stand and fight with you but they went thru a rough patch financially for one reason or another. In each case, it was no fault of their own. That slope is getting very slippery.

LoL
Ahhhhhh seeeee
Now you're trying to carve out exceptions for your elite little group of friends
Just like politicians do

[Livin'2hunt]

LoL
Ahhhhhh seeeee
Now you're trying to carve out exceptions for your elite little group of friends
Just like politicians do

Are you high right now?? Do you even know what you're saying or are you just trollin'? I have to tell you man, your responses sound drug addled and incoherent.

[texansfan]

Are you high right now?? Do you even know what you're saying or are you just trollin'? I have to tell you man, your responses sound drug addled and incoherent.

At first y'all say welfare ppl can't vote
But then you say only THESE welfare ppl can't vote
Not my friends that were on welfare because they are good ppl

So many tbhrs family have cancer I guarantee you they have benefited from some sort of govt welfare program

[Charles]

I guess you don't have any drunk or unemployed folks in your family.

Things are good when they're great
Until....

A few drunks yes. Unemployed no. I was brought up and I'm bringing my kids up to understand the concept personal responsibility and accountability.

[Livin'2hunt]

At first y'all say welfare ppl can't vote
But then you say only THESE welfare ppl can't vote
Not my friends that were on welfare because they are good ppl

So many tbhrs family have cancer I guarantee you they have benefited from some sort of govt welfare program

Take a breath, Smokey and re-read MY posts. Due to your hazy condition, I will clarify; I NEVER wrote that anyone shouldn't vote. In fact, I wrote that it would be a very slippery slope to confiscate Constitutionally protected rights (i.e. it would be unconstitutional and I'm freakin' against it). As for the people I know whom have been on welfare, their circumstances (as for cancer) is why welfare exists. That and to care for indigent persons who cannot care for themselves. If a family goes bankrupt due to an illness, I have no problem helping out until they get on their feet.

I'm not sure where you live but I can drive 15 miles from my home and at this time of day (1:18 PM), any day, we can see streets and porches chocked FULL of young, healthy hood rats drinking 40s, smoking Swisher Sweets and they aren't working the night shift. That's MY money and yours paying for them to sit on their a*s while we all produce. I'm saying, drug and alcohol test everyone and add a work/employment mandate and you will witness a miracle. Generational welfare babies will rise up and go to work just like the family with cancer. Is that more clearly stated?

[Charles]

Take a breath, Smokey and re-read MY posts. Due to your hazy condition, I will clarify; I NEVER wrote that anyone shouldn't vote. In fact, I wrote that it would be a very slippery slope to confiscate Constitutionally protected rights (i.e. it would be unconstitutional and I'm freakin' against it). As for the people I know whom have been on welfare, their circumstances (as for cancer) is why welfare exists. That and to care for indigent persons who cannot care for themselves. If a family goes bankrupt due to an illness, I have no problem helping out until they get on their feet.

I'm not sure where you live but I can drive 15 miles from my home and at this time of day (1:18 PM), any day, we can see streets and porches chocked FULL of young, healthy hood rats drinking 40s, smoking Swisher Sweets and they aren't working the night shift. That's MY money and yours paying for them to sit on their a*s while we all produce. I'm saying, drug and alcohol test everyone and add a work/employment mandate and you will witness a miracle. Generational welfare babies will rise up and go to work just like the family with cancer. Is that more clearly stated?

Preach it brother preach it!

Stop enabling and hold people accountable.

[Ironman]

Aaaahhhh! The silencing of the trolls. Gotta love it.

[SaltwaterSlick]

Take a breath, Smokey and re-read MY posts. Due to your hazy condition, I will clarify; I NEVER wrote that anyone shouldn't vote. In fact, I wrote that it would be a very slippery slope to confiscate Constitutionally protected rights (i.e. it would be unconstitutional and I'm freakin' against it). As for the people I know whom have been on welfare, their circumstances (as for cancer) is why welfare exists. That and to care for indigent persons who cannot care for themselves. If a family goes bankrupt due to an illness, I have no problem helping out until they get on their feet.

I'm not sure where you live but I can drive 15 miles from my home and at this time of day (1:18 PM), any day, we can see streets and porches chocked FULL of young, healthy hood rats drinking 40s, smoking Swisher Sweets and they aren't working the night shift. That's MY money and yours paying for them to sit on their a*s while we all produce. I'm saying, drug and alcohol test everyone and add a work/employment mandate and you will witness a miracle. Generational welfare babies will rise up and go to work just like the family with cancer. Is that more clearly stated?

That for **** sure would go a long way toward "fixin'" it! And well said sir!

...can't wait to hear what "ocare is good man" has to say about that... If we had more like you and fewer like him, we'd all be a LOT better off.

[rtp]

Why not just do nothing and let it fail? Make it a legacy. My rate was 200.00 per month prior to Obama's care. Now they are pushing 900.00 per month. Medical providers are requesting an 85% increase for next year.
This little state of just over 2 million people and has over 900k people on medicaid. With no money to pay for the medicaid.

I see no one has responded to your question. It is the very question I have. Let this thing collapse under its own weight. It is close to doing so already. Maybe that is the Republican plan but I doubt they are smart enough to actually do it.

And agree, just repeal it and let things go back to where they were before Obama got involved.

[Charles]

I see no one has responded to your question. It is the very question I have. Let this thing collapse under its own weight. It is close to doing so already. Maybe that is the Republican plan but I doubt they are smart enough to actually do it.

And agree, just repeal it and let things go back to where they were before Obama got involved.

Trump actually said they could just let it collapse on its own but it would hurt to many people and he didn't want to do that.

The other reason is when it collapsed the Republicans would take ownership of the collapse. The average voter isn't smart enough to know the difference IMO.

[Livin'2hunt]

I see no one has responded to your question. It is the very question I have. Let this thing collapse under its own weight. It is close to doing so already. Maybe that is the Republican plan but I doubt they are smart enough to actually do it.

And agree, just repeal it and let things go back to where they were before Obama got involved.

O-care is such a boondoggle, we just need to drag it out back and put two behind its ear. The problem with letting it collapse is, it is under Gubmint control until that happens AND after. The moderates or, worse yet, liberals will dictate the terms of its dissolution and most likely, its replacement. No replacement is necessary. If Medicaid is brought back to solvency (as described above), these things will balance out.

I look at it like having a loved one addicted to meth. They will bottom out but at what cost? Be responsible and intervene now before it's too late.