This is an enjoyable thread. Lol. I'm as big a fan of the 260 as anyone can be and fought the Creed craze for awhile. But after working with a metric ton of them over the past couple of years, I've found some respect for little the round If you load both of them to their SAAMI max, the Creed actually beats the 260. The Creed has a bunch of other advantages that have nothing to do with speed, but that's another story. I still reach for the flashy/modern 264WM when somethings gotta die
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Originally posted by Stick1 View PostThis is an enjoyable thread. Lol. I'm as big a fan of the 260 as anyone can be and fought the Creed craze for awhile. But after working with a metric ton of them over the past couple of years, I've found some respect for little the round If you load both of them to their SAAMI max, the Creed actually beats the 260. The Creed has a bunch of other advantages that have nothing to do with speed, but that's another story. I still reach for the flashy/modern 264WM when somethings gotta die
I was looking at a 264 WM hard till I bumped into that 26 Nos. Now I still want a 6.5X55 Swede also.
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Just for fun I ran some numbers on Quickload comparing 260 vs. Creed. Max loads, no cherry picking, with 2 popular bullets and 2 popular powders for both rounds. 24" barrels for both. Picked H4350 and RL17, along with Hornady 143 ELD-X and Berger 130 VLD Hunter. Results below per QL:
RL17/Berger 130
Creed - 45.3gr = 3,011fps
260 - 43.8gr = 2,961fps
RL17/143 ELD-X
Creed - 43.2gr = 2,861fps
260 - 41.7gr = 2,810fps
H4350/Berger 130
Creed - 45.0gr = 2,908fps
260 - 43.4gr = 2,849fps
H4350/143 ELD-X
Creed - 43.0gr = 2,771fps
260 - 41.4gr = 2,712fps
Now ya'll quit picking on the little 6.5-250
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Originally posted by Stick1 View PostJust for fun I ran some numbers on Quickload comparing 260 vs. Creed. Max loads, no cherry picking, with 2 popular bullets and 2 popular powders for both rounds. 24" barrels for both. Picked H4350 and RL17, along with Hornady 143 ELD-X and Berger 130 VLD Hunter. Results below per QL:
RL17/Berger 130
Creed - 45.3gr = 3,011fps
260 - 43.8gr = 2,961fps
RL17/143 ELD-X
Creed - 43.2gr = 2,861fps
260 - 41.7gr = 2,810fps
H4350/Berger 130
Creed - 45.0gr = 2,908fps
260 - 43.4gr = 2,849fps
H4350/143 ELD-X
Creed - 43.0gr = 2,771fps
260 - 41.4gr = 2,712fps
Now ya'll quit picking on the little 6.5-250
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Originally posted by Stick1 View PostJust for fun I ran some numbers on Quickload comparing 260 vs. Creed. Max loads, no cherry picking, with 2 popular bullets and 2 popular powders for both rounds. 24" barrels for both. Picked H4350 and RL17, along with Hornady 143 ELD-X and Berger 130 VLD Hunter. Results below per QL:
RL17/Berger 130
Creed - 45.3gr = 3,011fps
260 - 43.8gr = 2,961fps
RL17/143 ELD-X
Creed - 43.2gr = 2,861fps
260 - 41.7gr = 2,810fps
H4350/Berger 130
Creed - 45.0gr = 2,908fps
260 - 43.4gr = 2,849fps
H4350/143 ELD-X
Creed - 43.0gr = 2,771fps
260 - 41.4gr = 2,712fps
Now ya'll quit picking on the little 6.5-250
I gotta get Mike D to cross reference all this. [emoji12]
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Originally posted by Stick1 View PostThis is an enjoyable thread. Lol. I'm as big a fan of the 260 as anyone can be and fought the Creed craze for awhile. But after working with a metric ton of them over the past couple of years, I've found some respect for little the round If you load both of them to their SAAMI max, the Creed actually beats the 260. The Creed has a bunch of other advantages that have nothing to do with speed, but that's another story. I still reach for the flashy/modern 264WM when somethings gotta die
Robert I'd be interesting in hearing about all of the other advantages you feel the Creed has over the 260?
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Originally posted by Ragin' View PostLMMFAO!!!! The 6.5 is a reduced 260 and the 6 creed is a reduced 243 win. Fills no niche. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
You can get over 3000 with a 6.5X284 Norma with a 140. Standard 140 on a 6.5 Creed is 2700. So if your at 2925 with a Creed and a 140 you're hot loading the hell out of it.
Hornady 143 ELDX 6.5 Needmoor.
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It shoots really good but I wouldn't have purchased had I known about the 6.5 creedmoor at the time.
Please send over your recipe to get a 140 over 3000 in your 284.
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