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Old 10-04-2017, 10:41 PM   #1
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I realize the season has started and it's past time to settle in and stay the course. HOWEVER. Since I am still trying to get all the newness wore off the hummingbird, and still experimenting with arrow spine and weight.
WHAT ARROW DO YOU SHOOT?
Brand, spine, point weight, and bow draw weight at your draw please.

It's always amazing to me how many different combos come up within and slot poundage range.

I have two different arrows currently.
Gold Tip Nugents 500 spine cut to 29" with 100 grain brass and 145 grain heads for my 51# longbow

Currently liking GoldTip Traditionals 600 spine cut to 29" with standard insert and aluminum sleeve with same 145 grain point weight. 43# recurve
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I'm a N
Black Eagle Vintage fan. I'm shooting 500s out of my Widow and I have some 400s I'm going to set up for my big Jim Thunderchild. 175 grains up front.

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Old 10-04-2017, 10:50 PM   #3
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Sarrels Blueridge longbow, 50#@29" (my DL)

Easton Axis Full Metal Jacket, .400 spine, 31.5", 75gr brass insert, 145/150 field point/broadhead, about 19%FOC, 563gr total arrow weight.

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Old 10-04-2017, 11:39 PM   #4
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Easton axis 340 with 100 grain slick trick, lumenock, with 28" draw at #67 lbs.
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70/75# spined woods with 265 grains up front out of a 63# long bow, 3 fletched with 5" feathers.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:46 AM   #6
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Easton Axis traditional both have the 75gr brass inserts and cut to 30 inches, both bows are Kodiak Magnums.

44 lb bow at 29 inches 500 spine with 125gr magnus
53 lb bow at 29 inches 400 spine with 150gr magnus.

Yes at that draw length those short bows pinch a little but will put up with that since I just love the way they feel and shoot. 8.25 inch brace height on both bows.
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Old 10-05-2017, 02:04 AM   #7
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Warrior .400 spine carbons at 31-1/2", with 225-grain single bevel Tuffheads, along with a 75-grain adapter for screw-in, plus 100-grain brass insert for total of 680 grains and about 25 % FOC. Shooting Jay Weathers 3-piece takedown recurve using 70# limbs, but about 67# at my 27" draw length.
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:33 AM   #8
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Sarrels blueridge sr 52#@ 29.5" my dl.

Gold tip traditional classic 400, 31.5", 78 gr insert, 125 point. Total arrow weight is 590 gr.
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:36 AM   #9
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I'm hunting with my Bob Lee recurve this year - 53# at my draw length.
* 400 spine 3Rivers "Traditional Only" shafts
* 29.625" length
* 75 grain insert
* 150 grain head
* 3-5" feathers
Around 520 grains total weight
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:45 AM   #10
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Predator Longbow with Raptor archery bois d'arc footed doug fir shafts, 4 in. 4 fletch trueflight feathers with a 125 gr Zwickie broadhead. I'm at 500 gr total arrow weight.
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:57 AM   #11
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I'm shooting a Black Widow PCH 49@29 with full length GT 400's, standard inserts and 145 grain field tips. I switched from Zwickey's back to 3 blade heads for deer this year. VPA 150 grain Terminators.
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:01 AM   #12
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Belcher Union Jack Hill Style LB 50@28, Bamboo shafts, 3 fletch, 125gr single bevel Grizzly's. Come in at 520-530 grains.

Need to get my new Sarrells Sierra into the game, 52@28.
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:18 AM   #13
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I turn my own wood arrows out using a two stage dowel maker. I make them out of many different woods, cherry, maple, white pine and most anything else with a straight grain. I also foot some of my arrows, which is a pain, but they look nice. I brought back some mesquite one winter from Texas and have used it for footing an arrow.

I also use stone points most of the time and self bows. Although I used a recurve and aluminum arrow two weeks ago to take a Michigan black bear.
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:26 AM   #14
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54lb @ 28 Drycreek longbow
3Rivers "Traditional Only" 400 spine shafts cut to 29"
100 gr brass insert with a 175 gr Zwickey No Mercy broadhead.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:49 PM   #15
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Black Widow PCH 48#@27". Stock BW Dynaflight 97 14 strand string. (BTW, string is important too!)

29" Carbon Express Heritage 150s. (500 spine)
50gr GT adapter weights
3 x 4" Parabilic Truflight feathers
175 gr Zwickey Delta 2 blade broadheads.

Comes out to 540gr for the total arrow setup, or 11.25 gpp.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:51 PM   #16
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What I always find fascinating (but necessary) is how the overwhelming majority of traditional archers can cite their bow specs and arrow specs from memory. I would be wiling to bet that most of you didn't have to look it up, or measure it before posting.
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What I always find fascinating (but necessary) is how the overwhelming majority of traditional archers can cite their bow specs and arrow specs from memory. I would be wiling to bet that most of you didn't have to look it up, or measure it before posting.
I am an exception to that rule. And somehow I know that's a bad thing . . .

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What I always find fascinating (but necessary) is how the overwhelming majority of traditional archers can cite their bow specs and arrow specs from memory. I would be wiling to bet that most of you didn't have to look it up, or measure it before posting.
I guess after fighting through the frustrating process of arrow tuning, when you finally get it right, those numbers are embedded in your head forever!
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Old 10-05-2017, 01:57 PM   #19
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The problem for me in all of that is I haven't actually weighed any of the stuff or put my bows on a scale to see what they are at my DL so it's all ball park.

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Old 10-05-2017, 02:34 PM   #20
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Black Widow PCH 48#@27". Stock BW Dynaflight 97 14 strand string. (BTW, string is important too!)

29" Carbon Express Heritage 150s. (500 spine)
50gr GT adapter weights
3 x 4" Parabilic Truflight feathers
175 gr Zwickey Delta 2 blade broadheads.

Comes out to 540gr for the total arrow setup, or 11.25 gpp.
This set up will NEVER work! doesnt have enough green in it..........
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Old 10-05-2017, 03:35 PM   #21
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This set up will NEVER work! doesnt have enough green in it..........


Yeah... all that brown faux wood between the green head and green feathers really does throw it off

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Old 10-05-2017, 09:00 PM   #22
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I am shooting Gold tip Hunter 340 spine 30.25"
175 or 190 Simmons arrow weight 477 and 492 grain.
48 lb @ 28. 50 lb at my draw
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:59 PM   #23
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70# cedars 125 point weight 52@31


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Old 10-05-2017, 10:09 PM   #24
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Toelke Whip. 68ish lbs @ 32", 34" .260 spine Easton Axis, with 75 gr brass HIT inserts and 190 gr Simmons TreeSharks and a 5 grain collar. I use 200 gr field points for target practice. Total arrow weight on a scale is ~700 grains.
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:17 PM   #25
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Thanks to all who responded. Swamp Rabbit is right. I know my two sets better then memory serves. I have been thinking about trying some other combos for my new to me hummingbird. Got a lot of different ideas here. Just have to find the right one for the lighter draw bow. The current 525 grain Nugents shoot well, just looking for something with a little flatter trajectory, the 600's are okay, but not satisfied with the flight just yet.
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:08 PM   #26
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Easton axis 300
30 draw
125gr slick trip or ram cat
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total arrow wt 508gr
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:43 AM   #27
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It's not an easy choice. I lie a flatter trajectory but at 20 yards and in its not AS critical. However a heavier arrow can quiet a bow, reduce hand shock. Especially tough with lower poundage and short DLs.

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"Especially tough with lower poundage and short DLs." -Exactly
Since this bow is lighter draw I do not want to overload or push something to heavy and loose whatever energy I may be getting out of my 27" draw, but I also want to keep as much mass moving as possible. there is a fine line somewhere in there.
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Old 10-06-2017, 08:28 AM   #29
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Bemon ICS Hunter 400, Blazer vanes, Easton 3-d super nock, 29in, 100 Rage hypo.
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Bemon ICS Hunter 400, Blazer vanes, Easton 3-d super nock, 29in, 100 Rage hypo.
Curious what traditional bow are you shooting and getting good accuracy and arrow flight with using Blazer vanes? Might get ok flight using a flip away rest.
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Victory Vap 250 (full length), Blazer vanes, standard nock, 95 grain outsert, 125 gr rage hypodermic (going to switch to trocars soon). Shot a bullet hole through paper first shot.
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I doubt they understand the topic was traditional section. However I shoot 400s in my Hoyt Carbon Spyder as well. 60lbs draw weight and various hundred grain heads.

That said I recognized the poster and answered accordingly.

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Hey understand that he was using a compound but have seen people trying to shoot blazer vaned arrows off the shelf of a recurve, arrow flight was erratic to say the least.

In the compound I am shooting Gold Tip Pierce 400gr for several years it was Victory Vap 400s as well.
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Old 10-06-2017, 10:33 AM   #34
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58" Palmer "Trad Slam" Recurve
50 pounds @ 27"
Easton Axis Traditionals 400 spine (29.5" with 75gr inserts)
Palmer Extreme Cut Broadheads (160 grains)
15 strand Fury string
(3) 5" wild turkey feathers
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572 grain total weight
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Old 10-06-2017, 11:11 AM   #35
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have seen people trying to shoot blazer vaned arrows off the shelf of a recurve, arrow flight was erratic to say the least.
Paging Rick Barbee... Rick Barbee... you are needed in the arrow choice thread.

Rick and a few others shoot vanes off the shelf on a recurve... it requires very special attention to make sure your dynamic spine allows you to get clearance when the arrow passes the shelf at the back end.

But yeah, feathers make the whole process a little more forgiving and give you more options.

Vanes are, generally speaking, the exception to the rule.
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Swamprabbit, I know it can be done and have shot with a couple guys that can, but they are the exceptions that understand dynamic spine and tuning arrows to the bow.

I deal with lots of newby archers that have no idea of what spine even is, sometimes forgetting the level of expertise on here.
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Spine is what you have to have when your wife or your boss wants you to stay home or work on the weekend and you want to go hunting.

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Old 10-06-2017, 02:12 PM   #38
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For my main recurve I shoot
Beman ics Bowhunter arrows
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100 grain insert
.400 spine
125 grain heads
My backup/spot & stalk bow shoots
X3 hunter blackout arrows
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75 grain insert
135 grain heads
Both are around 500-510 grains


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DRT that kind of spine can leave a man without a job and sleeping in the doghouse. LOL
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Old 10-06-2017, 03:53 PM   #40
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Quest thumper .325 spine tapered shaft.
27 7/8 arrow length
200 grain insert and glue on head adapter
190 grain meathead broadhead
4" Feathers
Total arrow eight is around 680.

Bow is 68lb @ 27 inch draw. Drycreek Archery recurve approximately 180FPS

These arrows come in at 29.31 FOC.
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^ Does it chop them in Half? 680 grain arrow traveling 180 fps with a 190 Meathead... Sounds pretty serious.
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Paging Rick Barbee... Rick Barbee... you are needed in the arrow choice thread.

Rick and a few others shoot vanes off the shelf on a recurve... it requires very special attention to make sure your dynamic spine allows you to get clearance when the arrow passes the shelf at the back end.

But yeah, feathers make the whole process a little more forgiving and give you more options.

Vanes are, generally speaking, the exception to the rule.
Last time this came up Rick wasnt shooting off the shelf and I dont think he was using blazers but I could be wrong about that. He had built up the rest using dowel rod to get the clearance needed for vanes. I know it could be done but shooting blazers off the shelf will take a crazy amount of skill and luck to pull it off.
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^ Does it chop them in Half? 680 grain arrow traveling 180 fps with a 190 Meathead... Sounds pretty serious.
That FPS is probably incorrect that was chrono'd without the extra 100 grain adapters and only 145 grain field point. So I'm sure it is 20 fps slower with this current set up.
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From what I can tell Rick doesn't leave much to "luck" when it comes to his shooting.

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After playing with the Stu Miller Calculator Rick Posted and reading through this thread, I am backing off the 100 grain brass and re-tuning myself. After a series of shots the last few days I have noticed a bit flatter shots and still not seeing any flight issues with reduced nose weight.
Thanks for all the responses.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:36 PM   #46
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Caribow Tuktu Ex - #55 @ 28

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A and L longbow 62" 50#@28 I pull 28.5" 29.750" FML 75 grain insert 200 grain broadhead.
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Old 10-10-2017, 09:21 AM   #48
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Black Widow PCH 52@27
28.5" GT Traditional 5575 (400)
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Total weight is around 545 I believe
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Old 10-10-2017, 10:59 AM   #49
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For this season, Im taking the longbow.

Its a 59@27 Thunderhorn (about 56 at my DL)
This guy spits some 60/65 Douglas Fir shafts, 27.5" BOP and 160's up front.
Im going with simmons safari and Magnus MI.
605 grain arrow.
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Old 10-10-2017, 11:22 PM   #50
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Beman Centershot 400's
Cut to 28.25"
75 grain brass inserts
Grizzly 185 grain heads glued onto a 125 grain steel adapters (310 total head weight)
3-3" parabolic feathers
Shot through Bob lee recurves 53 & 52# @ 28" each (I draw 28")
FPS = 155
FOC = 28.96%
Total arrow weight = 675 grains
The spine calculators say real weak - the arrows fly like darts and penetrate deep.
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