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Old 08-17-2017, 10:01 AM   #1
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Well I drew the Archery Hunt (either sex) and I'm pretty excited but also have zero experience hunting in East Texas - even though I'm not sure if Cayuga is East Texas proper, it's still further east than I've ever been.

Anybody have any experience in the area that they might be willing to share? I've searched the forum and found a few interesting posts but not much with specific information. It seems that there are good bucks there if you've got the know-how.

I believe the Archery Hunt is the first hunt date offered (being prior to the rifle/youth/anterless hunts)

Any information would be appreciated!
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:09 AM   #2
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Everything I've heard indicate there are some good deer in there but it's a tough hunt. Good luck!
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:39 AM   #3
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I'm in the same boat as you. Drew Richland Creek but am not used to hunting east Tx. Gonna have to get used to all the trees!
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Old 08-17-2017, 11:14 AM   #4
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I heard from an old sage that I should find a live oak thats dropping acorns and sit on it all day. Sounds great in theory but from the satellite it looks like the whole dang place is oak trees.

Also as a side note I guess this can be a Gus Engeling Archery 2017 general thread as well.

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Old 08-17-2017, 11:27 AM   #5
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Find a big ole oak tree and sit all day long. Get as high as possible.

As said above find one that is dropping acorns and is on a hill or has a slope for water to run off instead of holding water where acorn could spoil.

If you can find one on a ridge line is even better.

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Old 08-17-2017, 11:30 AM   #6
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I squirrel hunted up there years back, my only experience with that unit... Great looking Woods though, hardwood bottoms with lots of big Oaks. As far as what to expect it's going to be your typical East Texas deal. You might go out there and see absolutely nothing, then again a 160 might stroll by at 20 yards...

Definitely stay put a little longer in the mornings, them big boys like to get up and cruise.. Some of the biggest deer ive seen move in that 9 to 11am window... Good Luck

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Well I drew the Archery Hunt (either sex) and I'm pretty excited but also have zero experience hunting in East Texas - even though I'm not sure if Cayuga is East Texas proper, it's still further east than I've ever been.

Anybody have any experience in the area that they might be willing to share? I've searched the forum and found a few interesting posts but not much with specific information. It seems that there are good bucks there if you've got the know-how.

I believe the Archery Hunt is the first hunt date offered (being prior to the rifle/youth/anterless hunts)

Any information would be appreciated!
I drew GE last year. PM me I'll be glad to share.
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Old 08-17-2017, 11:49 AM   #8
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Old 08-17-2017, 11:49 AM   #9
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Find a big ole oak tree and sit all day long. Get as high as possible.

As said above find one that is dropping acorns and is on a hill or has a slope for water to run off instead of holding water where acorn could spoil.

If you can find one on a ridge line is even better.
Are there pine trees out there or is it mostly scrub oak?
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:51 PM   #11
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:10 PM   #12
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I drive through there daily going to Fairfield and back, seen lots of nice deer, turkeys too, and alligator's along Catfish creek. Oh and plenty of pigs...
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:13 PM   #13
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Everything I've heard indicate there are some good deer in there but it's a tough hunt. Good luck!
Hunted the youth gun hunt (with my son) a few years and agree with the above. Not a high percentage place but the chances for a big one are there. They really stress they only want mature (4.5 yr old) bucks or better.

Depending upon which compartment, you are probably going to have alot of oak trees or a sh** load of oak trees. I believe that is one of the reasons it is a tougher hunt. Not alot of pines trees.
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:26 PM   #14
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Hunted the youth gun hunt (with my son) a few years and agree with the above. Not a high percentage place but the chances for a big one are there. They really stress they only want mature (4.5 yr old) bucks or better.

Depending upon which compartment, you are probably going to have alot of oak trees or a sh** load of oak trees. I believe that is one of the reasons it is a tougher hunt. Not alot of pines trees.
That's about what I figured. I went with a buddy down to the drawn Nilgai hunt in south texas last year - and while it wasn't oak trees - the thicket was dense, bordering on impenetrable.

I'm no stranger to still hunting, but I worry about how to effectively prescout if you have to draw a compartment the day of the hunt.
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Old 08-17-2017, 03:05 PM   #15
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I have hunted both places, Gus and Richland Creek. Climbers and/or lock on stands is what you need. Once you get your compartment, do a speed scout. Find 2 or 3 stand sites. I always have at least 2 stand sites to choose from. Look for stand sites that you do not have to put in a lot of work like cutting shooting lanes. Find the sign, you will find the deer.
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Old 08-17-2017, 03:17 PM   #16
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Im on for this. Ive been drawn for Gus Engling, Nannie Stringfellow and THE CHAPARRAL!

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Old 08-17-2017, 03:48 PM   #17
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Im on for this. Ive been drawn for Gus Engling, Nannie Stringfellow and THE CHAPARRAL!

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Old 08-17-2017, 04:43 PM   #18
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Very tough hunt, between 60 hunters on the archery hunt last year only 3 deer were killed for the 5 day hunt. They actually reduced permits #'s quite alot this year due to the decline in deer density there.

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Old 08-17-2017, 08:25 PM   #19
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Very tough hunt, between 60 hunters on the archery hunt last year only 3 deer were killed for the 5 day hunt. They actually reduced permits #'s quite alot this year due to the decline in deer density there.
Do you know how many permits were issued this year? I was drawn for this years hunt as well. First time entering for these draw hunt so any tips would be appreciated!
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:29 PM   #20
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https://www2.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwi...phtml?OCat=ADE
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Old 08-18-2017, 07:16 AM   #21
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thanks for the link. Just trying to figure out where you heard that they lowered the # of permits this year... they've offered 60 permits each year since at least 2014... was wondering if you knew something we didn't?
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Old 08-18-2017, 08:04 AM   #22
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thanks for the link. Just trying to figure out where you heard that they lowered the # of permits this year... they've offered 60 permits each year since at least 2014... was wondering if you knew something we didn't?
It's right there on the TPWD website. Look at all the hunts not just the bow hunt.
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Old 08-18-2017, 08:28 AM   #23
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It's right there on the TPWD website. Look at all the hunts not just the bow hunt.

Gotcha ... that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification
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Old 08-18-2017, 10:38 AM   #24
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It's right there on the TPWD website. Look at all the hunts not just the bow hunt.
Gun permits are down for the unit, archery permits stayed the same as last year but still way down from what they used to be, GE used to make available 180 archery permits.

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Old 08-18-2017, 02:38 PM   #25
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Man do you have golden horse shoe up your butt or what? You need to go buy a lotto ticket. Good luck to you.

I've been entering the draw for 10 years, just about every category and have only been drawn once. That was three years ago. Maybe I still have a chance this year with the gun categories.
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Old 08-19-2017, 03:50 PM   #26
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Archery draw hunt slip from yesteryear, 100% chance of getting drawn, those were the days,

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Old 08-19-2017, 04:16 PM   #27
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Find a ridge with a scrape line. Find subtle bottlenecks, and stay longer than everyone else. Some very nice deer there, but they tend to get people wary pretty quick. You can use that to your advantage if you can find a secluded spot where they go when they get pressure. Hunt the trails between there and the acorns. Stay scent free as possible, use the wind and don't park too close to where you are hunting. And take a beetle spin to fish catfish Creek. Just watch out for the gators. Good luck
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:29 PM   #28
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Archery draw hunt slip from yesteryear, 100% chance of getting drawn, those were the days,
Wow! What year was this?
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Old 08-19-2017, 11:41 PM   #29
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pre internet application process at many of the WMA's...
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pre internet application process at many of the WMA's...
Yes, I remember applying pre internet, with the book and all, but I just did not remember ever seeing stats like that............... moore spots that actual hunters.
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Old 08-20-2017, 08:05 PM   #31
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Yes, I remember applying pre internet, with the book and all, but I just did not remember ever seeing stats like that............... moore spots that actual hunters.
Oh trust me plenty locals showed up to fill some of those spots, they ain't too fond of the new system...
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Old 09-14-2017, 03:57 PM   #32
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At Gus Engeling WMA try for unit 1 and hunt at the bottom of the hill where the powerlines are just down where the road crosses it.
I've always heard the compartments closest to hwy 287 aren't as good, poorest are probably the compartments in the northwest quadrant a few of those in northwest most part they cleared alot of and the others to the west of wildlife road up there are more open and seem to be the ones left out after everyone selects compartments. I would choose one along the creek on the east side, they will ask you to list your top 3 compartement choices. Depending on what order you were chosen in the draw, your party size and vehicle type and drivetain, you may or may not get put where you want, they decide for you.
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Old 09-14-2017, 04:02 PM   #33
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Lots of deer in the area. Need to find travel routes and natural funnels with sign. Always had better luck high in a tree in East Texas for sure!
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Old 09-25-2017, 07:02 PM   #34
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Finding oak trees producing wasn't a problem. A few years back when I went. There was Thousands of oaks producing and lots of tracks . Just trying to pic the best looking trail was the issue like rolling dice!!
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Old 10-02-2017, 12:24 PM   #35
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Lots of deer in the area. Need to find travel routes and natural funnels with sign. Always had better luck high in a tree in East Texas for sure!
I just got back from the Big Lake Bottom WMA hunt, which is very close to Gus Engeling and it really opened my eyes to how preferable a climber is in that area. Lots of tall hardwoods to see over cover - I won't be making the mistake of a ground blind this go-around.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:35 PM   #36
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i just got back from the big lake bottom wma hunt, which is very close to gus engeling and it really opened my eyes to how preferable a climber is in that area. Lots of tall hardwoods to see over cover - i won't be making the mistake of a ground blind this go-around.

climber it is for me then!
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