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Old 09-26-2017, 12:20 PM   #51
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He's not the hero all the fans who rushed out and bought his jersey was hoping he would be. Stay focused grasshopper.
Well, those fans a ****ing idiots then
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:37 PM   #52
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Well, those fans a ****ing idiots then


Agree
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:42 PM   #53
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He did the right thing and I doubt anyone in that locker room said a word about it.
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:43 PM   #54
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He did the right thing and I doubt anyone in that locker room said a word about it.


The coach did
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:52 PM   #55
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I don't agree with what they did, but do have some inside information on what actually happened, not what we are seeing. I know a guy really really well who plays for the Steelers. Stand up dude, does alot for our community, church, and loves to hunt. Before the game they had a players only meeting and decided on standing in the tunnel instead of the field for the national anthem. They voted on 3 choices. I don't remember exactly what they were but something along the lines of
1. Whole team stands on field holding hands
2. Whole team on field, standing if they wanted/kneeling if they wanted.
3. Stand/kneel in the tunnel out of the public eye. (This was voted on to stay out of the media for their beliefs. Those kneeling wouldn't have to deal with the b.s. this backfired. I also believe that Villanueva was to do as he pleased because of his vet background.
this was decided as a team, to stay out of the spotlight, it didnt work that way.

i will say that if vance was okay with this I am sure it was with good intentions. He has always stood for his beliefs, even when he was the only one with them.

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There is the team football and there is TEAM USA. TEAM USA don't give a crap about team football if you disrespect the bigger TEAM USA.
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:09 PM   #56
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There is the team football and there is TEAM USA. TEAM USA don't give a crap about team football if you disrespect the bigger TEAM USA.
I agree completely. But you missed everything my post was about. The ONLY reason they didn't come out was to avoid being drug into this. There was no disrespect intended (as a team anyway). This was done, from what I understand, as a team because there were some that wanted to stand, some that wanted to kneel. They felt that being out of sight would keep any of them from being pulled into this mess. Now with that being said, if you would re read my first sentence, I don't agree with it. I think they should all be on the field, and all be required to stand. I was just sharing that this was not done in protest to anything, nor was it done to disrespect anything or anyone. Although I do see how it has been taken that way. I am still reading as much as I can on it as well, because him apologizing and Tomlin ripping him don't add up.

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Old 09-26-2017, 01:25 PM   #57
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Pretty sad to see his apology video. Their coach is a POS in my book
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:27 PM   #58
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To me, there was one that did right and made the rest look bad for doing the wrong thing. He may apologize for making his it obvious his teammates were wrong, but the team was wrong in my eyes. Not being out there spoke volumes, intended or not.

You don't get to vote on the least offensive way to not show respect during the anthem, and get a pass.

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Old 09-26-2017, 01:34 PM   #59
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I lived in Pittsburgh during the early to mid 70's and was a fan all my life... WAS...No more!

Sorry he apologised but I may still buy a Villeneuve jersey though.
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Old 09-26-2017, 02:11 PM   #60
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Oh Yeah! The man is a hero and the rest of his so-called team are a bunch of sniveling cowards right up the the team's owner. I wish him the best for being the man that he is and a true American.
I just hope that there is still one team owner out there that won't cave in to the media and alt left/BLM. Tom Benson maybe???? I sure hope so or I've got friends in Nola that are gonna about die and one of them works for Mr Benson.

Now, Let's go hit em in the pocket book. Right where it will hurt the most.
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Old 09-26-2017, 08:16 PM   #61
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:53 AM   #62
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If Vince Lombardi were alive today and coaching the Steelers instead of the Packers, you can bet your last nickel not one of his players would be kneeling.

Same with Mr. Landry. Bear Bryant. Darrell Royal.

What happened to discipline? The greatest lesson of football has been lost to the snowflake generation.

I've turned off all sports except NASCAR and hockey.
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Old 09-27-2017, 07:46 AM   #63
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If Vince Lombardi were alive today and coaching the Steelers instead of the Packers, you can bet your last nickel not one of his players would be kneeling.

Same with Mr. Landry. Bear Bryant. Darrell Royal.

What happened to discipline? The greatest lesson of football has been lost to the snowflake generation.

I've turned off all sports except NASCAR and hockey.
Spot on my Friend, Vince would fire any player who tried that crap.

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Old 09-27-2017, 07:55 AM   #64
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If Vince Lombardi were alive today and coaching the Steelers instead of the Packers, you can bet your last nickel not one of his players would be kneeling.

Same with Mr. Landry. Bear Bryant. Darrell Royal.

What happened to discipline? The greatest lesson of football has been lost to the snowflake generation.

I've turned off all sports except NASCAR and hockey.
Yeah all those guys publically supported the Civil/Equal Rights Movement.

Times are different now.
Blacks can vote and eat at the same restaurants we do.
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:33 AM   #65
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Yeah all those guys publically supported the Civil/Equal Rights Movement.

Times are different now.
Blacks can vote and eat at the same restaurants we do.
You missed the point, so I'll restate it:

Football is about discipline and putting the team's objectives above your own. Many of today players don't understand that. Regardless of their race.
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:58 AM   #66
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Yeah all those guys publically supported the Civil/Equal Rights Movement.

Times are different now.
Blacks can vote and eat at the same restaurants we do.
Funny that the kneeling protest started when the first black president was in office.
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Old 09-27-2017, 09:08 PM   #67
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Funny that the kneeling protest started when the first black president was in office.


By a black player who was adopted and raised by white parents! But then gets a Muslim gf who “enlightens” him on his oppression. All of it makes me want to puke!
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By a black player who was adopted and raised by white parents! But then gets a Muslim gf who “enlightens” him on his oppression. All of it makes me want to puke!
He was only half black. And raised by white parents. Then got the Muslim girlfriend and went off the deep end
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You missed the point, so I'll restate it:

Football is about discipline and putting the team's objectives above your own. Many of today players don't understand that. Regardless of their race.
Really?
Most seem to think football is nothing more than a "game" played for our entertainment.
It's not to be used as some type of method for self improvement.
Those guys are getting paid millions of dollars to play.
They are not on a character building crusade.
It's the NFL, not Pop Warner.
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Old 09-28-2017, 08:33 AM   #70
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By a black player who was adopted and raised by white parents! But then gets a Muslim gf who “enlightens” him on his oppression. All of it makes me want to puke!
And somehow he didnt realise how oppressed he was/is, until he started having trouble hanging on to the football. Or until he started demanding more money.

It's unclear what Kaepernick is seeking on his next contract. The 29-year-old was due $14.5 million in base salary next season with the 49ers before opting out.
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