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Old 10-16-2018, 03:36 AM   #1
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Saturday evening at 5:45pm I had a GIANT 8 walk up behind me at about 30 yards. He turned around and started walking away. Hit my grunt call 2 times and he turned around and made a b-line right towards me. He stepped out at 20 yards and I hit him about 2Ē behind the shoulder. Didnít get a pass through. From the looks of the arrow in him when he was running off, it looked like it went through and stuck in his other shoulder. BTW Iím shooting slick trick magnums. I was extremely confident in my shot placement. Saw him run for about 100 yard out of my sight. He was booking it with his tail up. Tracked all night long and all day Sunday with a lot of help and found nothing. Found 2 drops of blood. Iím guessing the arrow was plugging the hole??? Did a grid search and looked everywhere for hours. Iím wondering if that deer is dead, will he start to smell where I can smell him far enough away. I donít know what to do. Iím so down on myself and I havenít slept in 3 days. Itís the worse possible feeling in the world. Any advice/knowledge or past experiences that any of you TBHís have I would greatly appreciate it.
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Old 10-16-2018, 03:39 AM   #2
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The first thing I would have done was call a good dog.
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Old 10-16-2018, 03:48 AM   #3
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The first thing I would have done was call a good dog.
I did that. started raining Saturday night and it couldnít pick up a scent trail
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Old 10-16-2018, 03:53 AM   #4
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well I guess in that case if he is dead, you better pray you stumble on him. Where in the state do you hunt? Have the buzzards already migrated?
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Old 10-16-2018, 04:38 AM   #5
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Says he hunts in East Texas. ET buzzards are here all winter, but with this cool weather the coyotes will probably clean him up overnight. Sorry for your luck OP. You say it looked to be stuck in the offside shoulder. That sounds like quartering away shot that may have only caught one lung. If it was high enough he could run a long way. He might even survive. Without a dog and decent tracking conditions, you probably won't find him unless you're very lucky. Not what you wanted to hear, but that's the way I see it.
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Old 10-16-2018, 04:45 AM   #6
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well I guess in that case if he is dead, you better pray you stumble on him. Where in the state do you hunt? Have the buzzards already migrated?
Between using slicktricks and buzzard migration, you're screwed


On a serious note, reading your story it sounds like it's a dead deer, just a matter of finding him. The rain aspect really hurt your chances. Best I can tell you is grid search some by close bedding areas and watch for buzzards. I lost my biggest bow buck and it really hurt. I still get mad thinking about it. Best of luck in your search.
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Old 10-16-2018, 04:54 AM   #7
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Have you had him on trail cam before? Maybe somehow you get lucky and he survives and you get another chance at him. That’s the tough part of hunting. Good luck and I’m hoping for a good outcome for you.
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Old 10-16-2018, 05:29 AM   #8
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You may have needed a better dog. If you tracked him initially then there had to have been a blood trail right? Your best bet was a dog as soon as you realized you couldn't find it.


I'd stay out there and listen for the coyotes


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Old 10-16-2018, 05:35 AM   #9
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Hopefully you will find him and recover the rack. Best of luck to you.
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Old 10-16-2018, 05:57 AM   #10
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Sounds like a dead deer, to me if you hit him, just as/where you said.
Hope you find the rack........
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:11 AM   #11
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To me it sounds like you probably hit him in the spine or high enough to miss the good stuff and he will be chasing does in a few days.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:24 AM   #12
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Sounds like a dead deer. There are much worse things in life to lose sleep over, deer ain’t one of them for me.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:33 AM   #13
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I bet you hit him a little higher than you think. He will be back in a couple of weeks with a little scab in his backstraps. Tail high when running is a non vital hit. He probably ducked from the sound causing tge higj hit. Next time aim a little lower.
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:44 AM   #14
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I bet you hit him a little higher than you think. He will be back in a couple of weeks with a little scab in his backstraps. Tail high when running is a non vital hit. He probably ducked from the sound causing tge higj hit. Next time aim a little lower.


The tail up and lack of blood where red flags to me too. When they are hurting they run either tail tucked right usually.


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Old 10-16-2018, 08:17 AM   #15
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The tail up and lack of blood where red flags to me too. When they are hurting they run either tail tucked right usually.


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Old 10-16-2018, 08:23 AM   #16
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He is probably still alive the hit is probably higher then what you are thinking it was !
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:29 AM   #17
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In, good luck finding him
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:50 AM   #18
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If you hit him where you think you did then he is dead.. I've seen a fatally wounded, big mature, double lung shot buck run 400+ yards before and he stopped bleeding after the first 100. It's unexplainable but it happens..
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:20 AM   #19
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It all happens so fast.
In my experience, fatal hits on bucks donít result with tail up exits.
Itís half way up, I know itís a small detail, but significant.

Decent chance it wasnít a lethal hit.

Keep your head up, weíve all been there.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:47 AM   #20
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I appreciate all of the encouragement guys. It would have been my biggest buck to date and my first buck with my bow. That makes it just a tad bit harder lol. You learn something new every hunt if you pay close enough attention to the details.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:54 AM   #21
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Were you on the ground or elevated? How long did you wait before you started looking?

I agree with the other guys that the tail high is not usually a fatal hit and I do know the feeling, part of it but really sucks.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:57 AM   #22
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Check the river.

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Old 10-16-2018, 10:24 AM   #23
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Better luck next time. It does suck to lose one.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:26 AM   #24
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Were you on the ground or elevated? How long did you wait before you started looking?

I agree with the other guys that the tail high is not usually a fatal hit and I do know the feeling, part of it but really sucks.
I was elevated about 20 feet off the ground. But he stepped out on a ridge in front of me so really it was probably equal to 10ft. waited 4 hours before starting the track. I didn't want the meat to ruin and I didn't think he went far.

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This deer was a quartering away shot at 20 yards... 5 weeks later, he was shot with a gun... arra still in him. He was chasing does and coming to feeders regularly. Arra did not penetrate body cavity but went in and deflected between the shoulder and rib cage... Even in the video it appeared to be a great shot... we were high-fiving and all... After a mile track with my dog, we jumped the deer and never found another drop of blood... Didn't have a clue what happened until we started to get pics of him a week later... Took 4 more weeks to get a shot on him...

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This deer was a quartering away shot at 20 yards... 5 weeks later, he was shot with a gun... arra still in him. He was chasing does and coming to feeders regularly. Arra did not penetrate body cavity but went in and deflected between the shoulder and rib cage... Even in the video it appeared to be a great shot... we were high-fiving and all... After a mile track with my dog, we jumped the deer and never found another drop of blood... Didn't have a clue what happened until we started to get pics of him a week later... Took 4 more weeks to get a shot on him...

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Wow. That is nutzzz. I'm praying for the same.
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:09 AM   #27
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This deer was a quartering away shot at 20 yards... 5 weeks later, he was shot with a gun... arra still in him. He was chasing does and coming to feeders regularly. Arra did not penetrate body cavity but went in and deflected between the shoulder and rib cage... Even in the video it appeared to be a great shot... we were high-fiving and all... After a mile track with my dog, we jumped the deer and never found another drop of blood... Didn't have a clue what happened until we started to get pics of him a week later... Took 4 more weeks to get a shot on him...

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That is absolutely wild
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This deer was a quartering away shot at 20 yards... 5 weeks later, he was shot with a gun... arra still in him. He was chasing does and coming to feeders regularly. Arra did not penetrate body cavity but went in and deflected between the shoulder and rib cage... Even in the video it appeared to be a great shot... we were high-fiving and all... After a mile track with my dog, we jumped the deer and never found another drop of blood... Didn't have a clue what happened until we started to get pics of him a week later... Took 4 more weeks to get a shot on him...

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Old 10-16-2018, 11:32 AM   #29
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Cool pics Charlie. It's amazing how tough a deer is.
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:40 AM   #30
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I bet you hit him a little higher than you think. He will be back in a couple of weeks with a little scab in his backstraps. Tail high when running is a non vital hit. He probably ducked from the sound causing tge higj hit. Next time aim a little lower.
I agree with this. Been there done that. My second biggest deer to date was shot the year before I shot him. High backstrap hit, which caused him to disappear the rest of the season. The next year he showed up like normal and I killed him opening day. We were unsure if it was him because he gained 10", and we couldn't see a scar on camera. Once he hit the ground we could clearly see the broadhead scar in the backstrap.
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:40 AM   #31
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Few years ago I put a slick trick in one at 15 yards broadside. Thought shoot was good. Not a lot of penetration. Never found nothing. 10 days later he shows back with arrow gone and a hole in top of shoulder about 1/3 way down. Didn’t hit exactly where I thought I did. Killed him2 years later and recovered broad head which had worked all the wAy To the lower outside chest cavity. Hope you find him. Stay after it.
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:56 AM   #32
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Sure hope this end well for you! You have any pics of the deer before you shot him
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:27 PM   #33
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Hope you find him but I doubt the broadhead is to blame. 1st bow kill and biggest buck can add up to a lot of nerves
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Sure hope this end well for you! You have any pics of the deer before you shot him
nope. I had a SPYPOINT camera up and when i went to check it and there was nothing on it. Itís a piece of junk. Good thing I donít though. I would be even sicker.
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Gotcha good luck brother!
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:34 PM   #36
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Hope you find him but I doubt the broadhead is to blame. 1st bow kill and biggest buck can add up to a lot of nerves
It would have been my 4th bowkill. But you are correct it was my first opportunity at a buck with my bow and boy was I shaking like a leaf. With that said though, I thought that deer was dead within 100 yards after seeing my lumenok pin behind his shoulder.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:49 PM   #37
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Hopefully you will find the rack been through the same as you a few yrs ago with a drop tine buck that I never found. I hate losing deer.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:55 PM   #38
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Know the feeling all too well man... Sleepless nights and no closure until you see him again or find him. Had an instance like yours a couple years ago except on a low shot that literally had to have tickled the heart. Luckily he showed up on trail camera again that week and I was able to kill him the last day of season. Hope he turns up again and you get another crack at him!
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:04 PM   #39
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Being an evening hunt in my experience they will often circle back to where they came from. It sure sounds like you made a killing shot. I'm surprised you didn't find part of the arrow right away. Good luck and I hope you see him again or find the rack.
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:10 PM   #40
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You may have needed a better dog. If you tracked him initially then there had to have been a blood trail right? Your best bet was a dog as soon as you realized you couldn't find it.


I'd stay out there and listen for the coyotes


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Agree, with maybe a different dog. Even without blood if that deer is down, dog will find it if it is dead.
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Agree, with maybe a different dog. Even without blood if that deer is down, dog will find it if it is dead.
Or bay it if it's not dead...
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:27 PM   #42
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Agree, with maybe a different dog. Even without blood if that deer is down, dog will find it if it is dead.
Even in the rain?
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:31 PM   #43
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Being an evening hunt in my experience they will often circle back to where they came from. It sure sounds like you made a killing shot. I'm surprised you didn't find part of the arrow right away. Good luck and I hope you see him again or find the rack.
I knew where he was bedding. Did Grid search, radius search of about 800 yards, and put a dog on him. Still nothing man. Itís gonna haunt me not knowing where that deer is. Checked every creek bank, bedding area, and everywhere in between. Just sucks not having a blood trail or finding my arrow.
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Even in the rain?
Yes, plenty of deer have been tracked in the rain or after it has rained. Makes it harder, yes. Not saying it would %100, but if they deer is worth it I would atleast call one of the other guys. You can get on United blood trackers website and there is a list of trackers if you wanted to try a different dog.
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:48 PM   #45
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Between using slicktricks and buzzard migration, you're screwed


Ive never heard of a buzzard migrating. Maybe the ones we have on our place in the winter come from canadia?
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Old 10-16-2018, 03:10 PM   #46
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Old 10-16-2018, 03:24 PM   #47
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Never give up!! A good dog can track a trail no matter how "cold" or old!

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Old 10-16-2018, 03:30 PM   #48
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I would try and look for him next weekend. Use your nose - and look for buzzards.

Check out the obvious places on Google earth beforehand and try to walk those out. (bedding areas close to your stand)
If he was a lung shot deer - he probably didn't go more than a few hundred yards - but only finding 2 drops of blood sounds like the shot was high & forward.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:23 AM   #49
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For future problems like this, if it's going to rain, put some thing over a good blood spot so the rain cannot wash it out. Almost all dogs won't start with out a good blood spot. They don't really trail the blood any way, they trail the deer's scent. They need the blood to determine which deer to trail.

A couple years ago, Bisch shot a buck and hit a little back. He even admitted it, the only guy I know that didn't say he hit it perfect. It rained all night long. The next morning, I took Bonnie there and she wouldn't hit as all the blood was washed away. We went the way the deer had gone and she hit on some blood that was on the under side of a cactus pad and hadn't washed away. 400 yards later and we were standing over his deer, hit in the liver just like he said.
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