Jason Hairston Kuiu founder dead.

[JTeLarkin08]

At least do it where the kids wouldn’t see it.

seems like if it was indeed CTE he wasnt able to even think that through.. If he was able to think that through I dont think suicide would have on the table.. Sad Deal

[curtintex]

seems like if it was indeed CTE he wasnt able to even think that through.. If he was able to think that through I dont think suicide would have on the table.. Sad Deal

Agreed. I don't understand mental illness, but I do understand that those that suffer from it suffer just as if they had cancer or Alzheimers or ALS. To be afflicted by your own mind, trapped inside yourself and no understanding of why or how to beat it....I can' t comprehend what that must be like. I used to think suicide was 100% selfish, and maybe it sometimes is, but when your pain is mental, is daily and there is no escaping....well, people take drastic measures for instant relief. The saddest thing.

[JakeGraves]

seems like if it was indeed CTE he wasnt able to even think that through.. If he was able to think that through I dont think suicide would have on the table.. Sad Deal

I agree it’s a sad deal. I’m not familiar with CTE and not trying to belittle him in any way.

[DUKFVR]

Prayers Up for the Family.

[Black Ice]

Jason Hairston Kuiu founder dead.

Guy seemed to have lived an amazing life being able to play in the NFL and having a career in the hunting industry like he did.

Has CTE been proven to increase suicide risks?





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[Cajun Blake]

seems like if it was indeed CTE he wasnt able to even think that through.. If he was able to think that through I dont think suicide would have on the table.. Sad Deal

Sadly it’s not that simple when it comes to mental illness and cognitive disorders. There is no medical cure to reverse the effects of CTE , traumatic brain injury, or Alzheimer’s & dementia. Counseling and medicinal treatment will only prolong the inevitable.

We will likely never know what was going on inside the brains of Jason Hairston, Chris Cornell, Junior Seau, Anthony Bourdain, Andre Waters, Shane Dronett, and many others who took their own lives. Unless the aforementioned individuals kept a daily journal or attended counseling to document how they truly felt and were coping with their disorders, we will never understand their pain.

Perhaps Hairston was trying to run from his mental demons and depression by becoming one with nature and spending lots of time in the outdoors. When finally realizing he could not defeat his mental illness, he decided to check out like so many others.

My undergraduate degrees are in Psychology and Sociology, my Masters degree is in Counseling. As much as clinicians and researchers have studied the human brain, we still know very little about how to prevent mental health disorders and cure certain illnesses.

Pretty scary stuff

[RShockley]

Prayers to his family and friends. CTE is a scary thing and very rough to live with. I myself have experienced issues due to multiple concussions playing hockey. I have been very fortunate that I only experience the migraine and occasional short term memory issues. I have also been fortunate enough that my doctors say that despite my current symptoms they do not feel I have CTE. Even with that it is a constant concern something could develop further. I couldn't even begin to know how I would handle that. I have so much respect for what those that deal with this go through on a daily basis.

[Black Ice]

Jason Hairston Kuiu founder dead.

Sadly it’s not that simple when it comes to mental illness and cognitive disorders. There is no medical cure to reverse the effects of CTE , traumatic brain injury, or Alzheimer’s & dementia. Counseling and medicinal treatment will only prolong the inevitable.

We will likely never know what was going on inside the brains of Jason Hairston, Chris Cornell, Junior Seau, Anthony Bourdain, Andre Waters, Shane Dronett, and many others who took their own lives. Unless the aforementioned individuals kept a daily journal or attended counseling to document how they truly felt and were coping with their disorders, we will never understand their pain.

Perhaps Hairston was trying to run from his mental demons and depression by becoming one with nature and spending lots of time in the outdoors. When finally realizing he could not defeat his mental illness, he decided to check out like so many others.

My undergraduate degrees are in Psychology and Sociology, my Masters degree is in Counseling. As much as clinicians and researchers have studied the human brain, we still know very little about how to prevent mental health disorders and cure certain illnesses.

Pretty scary stuff

Looks like a nice ripe peach on the left and on the right it looks like a peach that has been knocked around a good bit.


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[PondPopper]

Guy seemed to have lived an amazing life being able to play in the NFL and having a career in the hunting industry like he did.

Has CTE been proven to increase suicide risks?





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Yes to your question..

[Black Ice]

Jason Hairston Kuiu founder dead.

Yes to your question..

For nearly 80 years, suicidality was not considered to be a core clinical feature of chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE). In recent years, suicide has been widely cited as being associated with CTE, and now depression has been proposed to be one of three core diagnostic features alongside cognitive impairment and anger control problems. This evolution of the clinical features has been reinforced by thousands of media stories reporting a connection between mental health problems in former athletes and military veterans, repetitive neurotrauma, and CTE. At present, the science underlying the causal assumption between repetitive neurotrauma, depression, suicide, and the neuropathology believed to be unique to CTE is inconclusive. Epidemiological evidence indicates that former National Football League players, for example, are at lower, not greater, risk for suicide than men in the general population. This article aims to discuss the critical issues and literature relating to these possible relationships.


There have been a number of reports about whether former NFL players are at a higher risk for suicide, but a new government study suggests the answer is 'no.'

Researchers from the CDC's National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) analyzed suicide death rate data on 3,439 retired NFL players. All the men played football for the NFL for at least five seasons between 1959 and 1988. The scientists compared the findings with the suicide death rate for men matched for race and age in the general population.

They found that the rate of suicide among the former NFL players was actually lower than the suicide rate in the general population. Between 1979 to 2013, there were 12 suicide deaths in the NFL group compared with 25 suicide deaths in the group of other men, according to the study published in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.

A few highly publicized cases -- like the suicide of former NFL player Junior Seau in 2012 -- have raised concerns that suicide in former NFL players may be linked to football-related concussions. Such injuries can cause chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE -- brain degeneration from repeated head trauma. The condition can only be confirmed during an autopsy of the brain.

NFL players with CTE
NFL players with CTE
But the study found those deaths are not signs of a wider trend. Dr. Douglas Trout, deputy director of the Division of Surveillance, Hazard Evaluations and Field Studies at NIOSH, said in a press statement, "In studying this particular cohort of professional football players, our researchers did not find this to be the case."

He said more studies are needed, though, to confirm the findings.

Grant Iverson, the director of the Neuropsychology Outcome Assessment Laboratory, in the Department of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, at Harvard Medical School, told CBS News, reports of a link between former NFL players and higher suicide rates were not based on solid scientific research.

"There have been fundamental misunderstandings about risk for suicide in former NFL players for the past few years. Researchers and the media have frequently reported that former players are at increased risk. These assertions have been made, however, without supportive scientific evidence," said Iverson, who is also a professor at Harvard Medical School.

Another previous study of players who died between 1960 and 2007 also showed that the rate of suicide was lower among former NFL players than it is in the general population, Iverson noted.

Suicide rate by player position was also evaluated for the study and the researchers found that speed positions -- such as quarterback -- had lower rates of suicide compared to the general population.

They also found "significantly fewer overall deaths" from the leading killers cancer and heart disease. Assaults and homicides among retired NFL players were lower than the number in the general population, too.

Still, Iverson said, some retired NFL players do have health problems that can substantially interfere with their quality of life.

"Some former players suffer from chronic pain, substance abuse problems, marital and family stress, and depression. Some of these individuals are at increased risk for suicide," he said, and recommended that suffering players and families reach out to their health care providers or mental health resources for help.

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[PondPopper]

For nearly 80 years, suicidality was not considered to be a core clinical feature of chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE). In recent years, suicide has been widely cited as being associated with CTE, and now depression has been proposed to be one of three core diagnostic features alongside cognitive impairment and anger control problems. This evolution of the clinical features has been reinforced by thousands of media stories reporting a connection between mental health problems in former athletes and military veterans, repetitive neurotrauma, and CTE. At present, the science underlying the causal assumption between repetitive neurotrauma, depression, suicide, and the neuropathology believed to be unique to CTE is inconclusive. Epidemiological evidence indicates that former National Football League players, for example, are at lower, not greater, risk for suicide than men in the general population. This article aims to discuss the critical issues and literature relating to these possible relationships.


There have been a number of reports about whether former NFL players are at a higher risk for suicide, but a new government study suggests the answer is 'no.'

Researchers from the CDC's National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) analyzed suicide death rate data on 3,439 retired NFL players. All the men played football for the NFL for at least five seasons between 1959 and 1988. The scientists compared the findings with the suicide death rate for men matched for race and age in the general population.

They found that the rate of suicide among the former NFL players was actually lower than the suicide rate in the general population. Between 1979 to 2013, there were 12 suicide deaths in the NFL group compared with 25 suicide deaths in the group of other men, according to the study published in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.

A few highly publicized cases -- like the suicide of former NFL player Junior Seau in 2012 -- have raised concerns that suicide in former NFL players may be linked to football-related concussions. Such injuries can cause chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE -- brain degeneration from repeated head trauma. The condition can only be confirmed during an autopsy of the brain.

NFL players with CTE
NFL players with CTE
But the study found those deaths are not signs of a wider trend. Dr. Douglas Trout, deputy director of the Division of Surveillance, Hazard Evaluations and Field Studies at NIOSH, said in a press statement, "In studying this particular cohort of professional football players, our researchers did not find this to be the case."

He said more studies are needed, though, to confirm the findings.

Grant Iverson, the director of the Neuropsychology Outcome Assessment Laboratory, in the Department of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, at Harvard Medical School, told CBS News, reports of a link between former NFL players and higher suicide rates were not based on solid scientific research.

"There have been fundamental misunderstandings about risk for suicide in former NFL players for the past few years. Researchers and the media have frequently reported that former players are at increased risk. These assertions have been made, however, without supportive scientific evidence," said Iverson, who is also a professor at Harvard Medical School.

Another previous study of players who died between 1960 and 2007 also showed that the rate of suicide was lower among former NFL players than it is in the general population, Iverson noted.

Suicide rate by player position was also evaluated for the study and the researchers found that speed positions -- such as quarterback -- had lower rates of suicide compared to the general population.

They also found "significantly fewer overall deaths" from the leading killers cancer and heart disease. Assaults and homicides among retired NFL players were lower than the number in the general population, too.

Still, Iverson said, some retired NFL players do have health problems that can substantially interfere with their quality of life.

"Some former players suffer from chronic pain, substance abuse problems, marital and family stress, and depression. Some of these individuals are at increased risk for suicide," he said, and recommended that suffering players and families reach out to their health care providers or mental health resources for help.

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So from that study it sounds like all men, in the general population, need to get a major concussion that way the suicide rate will go down..

Junior Seau's family and Dr's. might disagree with that above study.

Seau committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest in 2012 at the age of 43. Later studies by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) concluded that Seau suffered from chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), a type of chronic brain damage, that has also been found in other deceased former NFL players and other NFL players who have committed suicide.[3][4] The disease is believed to derive from repetitive head trauma, and can lead to conditions like dementia, rage and depression

[Speedgoat]

I have lost too many friends to suicide. I will never bad mouth them or question their choice to take their lives. None of us know the thought process behind the deed. We have no right to second guess their choice. The choice was theirs to make. I am not saying that we cannot care for and love them while they are here. I am not saying that we can't do our best to help them through the crap that they deal with. I am saying, when the deed is done, it is not our place to second guess their decision. Do not speak ill of the deceased.

[Pedernal]

I have lost too many friends to suicide. I will never bad mouth them or question their choice to take their lives. None of us know the thought process behind the deed. We have no right to second guess their choice. The choice was theirs to make. I am not saying that we cannot care for and love them while they are here. I am not saying that we can't do our best to help them through the crap that they deal with. I am saying, when the deed is done, it is not our place to second guess their decision. Do not speak ill of the deceased.

^^^Agreed totally.

[gingib]

Agreed. I don't understand mental illness, but I do understand that those that suffer from it suffer just as if they had cancer or Alzheimers or ALS. To be afflicted by your own mind, trapped inside yourself and no understanding of why or how to beat it....I can' t comprehend what that must be like. I used to think suicide was 100% selfish, and maybe it sometimes is, but when your pain is mental, is daily and there is no escaping....well, people take drastic measures for instant relief. The saddest thing.

Well said

[BigLig]

I feel like we've devolved to a point we’re no more enlightened than ancient Romans. We watch these guys destroy each other on Sunday and could really give to sh**'s about what happens to them from Monday-Saturday. Shame on us. My son played football for a year and it was awesome but he won’t play another snap as long as I can help it. I don’t care how much money or how much glory is promised, anyone of these guys would give it all back for one more day.