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Old 12-31-2016, 09:22 AM   #1
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Looks 2.5
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:24 AM   #2
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I wouldn't kill it unless your just really hungry, looks younger than your estimate as well.
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:26 AM   #3
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Lol...not unless you like eating babies. That deer is a yearling
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:28 AM   #4
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Well. He dang sure looks like some fine eating. But he's a yearling imo

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Old 12-31-2016, 09:29 AM   #5
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Yes very young, your call

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Old 12-31-2016, 09:30 AM   #6
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I've been watching him all season and body looks quite a bit bigger than all the other yearlings wondering around.
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:46 AM   #7
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I'd definitely wait and see what he looks like next year. If the rut is done in your area then it would be a no brainer anymore but it looks like youre in South Texas so it may still be going on.
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:52 AM   #8
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I'd definitely wait and see what he looks like next year. If the rut is done in your area then it would be a no brainer anymore but it looks like youre in South Texas so it may still be going on.
He's getting a pass for sure, it's I don't see many like this running around chasing does.
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:52 AM   #9
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Id give it one more for sure
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:59 AM   #10
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He's 1.5 years. I'd leave him. If you shoot him, be sure to post photo of teeth (back 6 teeth). I've literally looked at tens of thousands of dead deer in over 25 years, and in all that time and dead deer, I've held only 1 spike that was older than 1.5 years. That buck was 8+ yrs.

To maximize buck quality, the best approach is to only shoot bucks that are 6.5 yrs and older. Can't go wrong. Don't worry about culling, just shoot old bucks.

Want meat?...Shoot a doe.
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Old 12-31-2016, 10:24 AM   #11
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He's 1.5 years. I'd leave him. If you shoot him, be sure to post photo of teeth (back 6 teeth). I've literally looked at tens of thousands of dead deer in over 25 years, and in all that time and dead deer, I've held only 1 spike that was older than 1.5 years. That buck was 8+ yrs.

To maximize buck quality, the best approach is to only shoot bucks that are 6.5 yrs and older. Can't go wrong. Don't worry about culling, just shoot old bucks.

Want meat?...Shoot a doe.
Question sir. (Back 6 teeth) do you mean the last 3 teeth on each jaw or the last 6 teeth per jaw? I want to learn how to do this. Thanks
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Old 12-31-2016, 11:05 AM   #12
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Maybe he put all his nutrition into his body for his first year of life...

Could possibly be a very tempting two year old next year if his body matures faster than all the other yearlings.
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Old 12-31-2016, 11:28 AM   #13
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He's 1.5 years. I'd leave him. If you shoot him, be sure to post photo of teeth (back 6 teeth). I've literally looked at tens of thousands of dead deer in over 25 years, and in all that time and dead deer, I've held only 1 spike that was older than 1.5 years. That buck was 8+ yrs.

To maximize buck quality, the best approach is to only shoot bucks that are 6.5 yrs and older. Can't go wrong. Don't worry about culling, just shoot old bucks.

Want meat?...Shoot a doe.
Agreed...., that deer is a 1 1/2 year old
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Old 12-31-2016, 11:59 AM   #14
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If you have your ratio where you want it and the tags to kill them, then go for it no matter what his age is. I have seen two spikes in all of my years that were over 1.5 yrs old and that is from killing a lot of spikes...
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Old 12-31-2016, 12:31 PM   #15
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Another pic, not great but look how black his hocks are
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Old 12-31-2016, 12:35 PM   #16
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Only one way to find out just how old he really is......
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Old 12-31-2016, 01:05 PM   #17
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I always look at it is if there's other bucks that's his same age that are a lot better. Then shoot him. Even if those bucks have spikes but are longer. His face looks 1.5 but to me his body could also show a young buck or just an old rundown buck which would explain the dark hocks. I have my answer but I'd get bombarded with insults to the spike lovers so
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Old 12-31-2016, 01:32 PM   #18
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Looks 2.5
If you like tender steaks...absolutely

He aint but about 8 months old
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Old 12-31-2016, 01:34 PM   #19
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I wouldn't shoot him, I think he's way to young. JMO
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Old 12-31-2016, 01:45 PM   #20
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I could be wrong but I believe this deer never comes close to scoring atleast 140. Eating a lot of protein for nothing to top out around 120 if he's lucky.
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:01 PM   #21
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Let him grow
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:18 PM   #22
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If you want more that look just like him....keep him another year or 3 or 6 or.....





You can tell my stance on spikes
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:58 PM   #23
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Shoot a hole in his ear so you can identify him in a couple years.
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Old 12-31-2016, 03:05 PM   #24
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I could be wrong but I believe this deer never comes close to scoring atleast 140. Eating a lot of protein for nothing to top out around 120 if he's lucky.
****, can you look into that crystal ball of yours and let me know if I will ever win the lottery?
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Old 12-31-2016, 03:13 PM   #25
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Shoot a hole in his ear so you can identify him in a couple years.
Dang good idea!!
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Old 12-31-2016, 03:23 PM   #26
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Question sir. (Back 6 teeth) do you mean the last 3 teeth on each jaw or the last 6 teeth per jaw? I want to learn how to do this. Thanks
Back 6 teeth per jaw. A 1.5 year old will still have his milk teeth, which are the first 3 teeth (premolars) and that 3rd milk tooth will have 3 cusps but will appear heavily worn. He'll replace the milk teeth in the next few months and that 3rd milk tooth with 3 cusps will be replaced by a permanent tooth with 2 cusps. Also, 1.5 yr old will often show only the tips of the 6th tooth as it's just erupting. Once a deer reaches 2.5, then you go strictly off the back 3 teeth.
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Old 12-31-2016, 05:07 PM   #27
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Here is a yearling that came for a bite this afternoon
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Old 12-31-2016, 06:14 PM   #28
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A yearling.
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Old 12-31-2016, 06:25 PM   #29
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Fork horn Same age as spike. Shoot spike, post photo of teeth and let's find out. While tooth wear is semi-shady on perfection, there's no missing a yearling. Think of it as an educational opportunity on a buck that, on average, will grow up to be less in antlers than his age cohorts.
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Old 12-31-2016, 06:26 PM   #30
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He's chasing a doe tonight. This is one horny yearling. Lol
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Old 12-31-2016, 07:11 PM   #31
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I'm certainly no expert, but in my opinion, the deer is 2yo. I have an absolute yearling on my place that has the same spikes. Mine has a baby's head and smaller physique than this buck.
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dang... banned over a spike? lol or maybe it was something else..
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:23 AM   #33
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Gone camping. At Banned Camp.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:16 AM   #34
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I guess they are letting the OP age another year.....
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:31 AM   #35
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****, can you look into that crystal ball of yours and let me know if I will ever win the lottery?
So now that there's another buck better than the spike and is probably the same age. Why keep the spike. Much less the spike looks like he's got antler development problems. So why keep a deer like that when there's better in the same age class?? That is what makes no sense to me
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So now that there's another buck better than the spike and is probably the same age. Why keep the spike. Much less the spike looks like he's got antler development problems. So why keep a deer like that when there's better in the same age class?? That is what makes no sense to me
There is no way to tell what a buck will do with age. That spike could end up 20" larger by the time he matures. No reason to cull anything under 3.5 years old IMO.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:13 AM   #37
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Let the DIKE live... Haha
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I comes down to 2 things 1. What your lease rules say 2. Do y'all want to feed that deer for another year
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Question sir. (Back 6 teeth) do you mean the last 3 teeth on each jaw or the last 6 teeth per jaw? I want to learn how to do this. Thanks
Follow this link and look for ageing deer PDF file.

http://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/wild/...nagement/deer/
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Old 01-03-2017, 09:47 AM   #40
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Follow this link and look for ageing deer PDF file.

http://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/wild/...nagement/deer/
Got it. Time to do some homework. Thanks.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:22 PM   #41
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:55 PM   #42
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shoot him and his mama! should be a 160 class by now! and look at him!
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:49 PM   #43
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dang... banned over a spike? lol or maybe it was something else..
Really? What the heck!
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:43 AM   #44
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Let him make it he's young
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Old 01-05-2017, 08:01 AM   #45
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unless you just need some freezer meat I would say let him walk. Or if that is the only option for a kid to get a shot at a deer.
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Old 01-05-2017, 08:16 AM   #46
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Give him another year
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Old 01-05-2017, 08:22 AM   #47
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Old 01-05-2017, 08:38 AM   #48
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has anyone read Gladwell's book "outlier's"? This makes me think of his pro hockey player example.

IMO give him a year. find identifying marking.

that being said, hunt what you want.
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Old 01-05-2017, 11:57 AM   #49
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what did he get banned for?
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Old 01-05-2017, 02:03 PM   #50
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what did he get banned for?
i think it was because he used a word to describe the deer's sexual behavior. idk
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