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Old 11-28-2016, 06:50 PM   #1
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Just getting a feel for what others are seeing. Up/down on horns? Numbers etc....
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:35 PM   #2
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Surprisingly down for me In Deep South Texas. Don't know why, we had good rain most of the year and browse was great all the way through September.

I'm hoping the mature deer are just hiding out. The only mature deer I have on camera in the past three months is a 6 yr old 12 point that might go 115".

But on the bright side we had a great fawn crop, and some very decent two and three year olds.
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:36 PM   #3
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I haven't seen a mature buck all year long just spikes and young bucks here and there
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Old 11-28-2016, 08:08 PM   #4
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So far it has been a really weird year. Seeing tons of 1-4 yr old bucks. Plenty of doe and not nearly as many as fawns as the last 3 years. Not seeing many mature bucks on camera or from the stands. I have hunted 12 sits so far this year and have yet to see a cull or management buck. The few 5.5 or older bucks I have seen have been 145+. We have to kill 25 bucks this year and have only shot 1. Nobody is seeing any to shoot. I know they are out there just not showing themselves. It is greener now then I have ever seen it this time of year in the last 25 years. Hopefully they will start showing up when it gets cooler and closer to the rut. It would be nice to at least wear a jacket to the stand. I've hunted in shorts every sit this year.
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Old 11-28-2016, 08:10 PM   #5
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Seeing more deer every week. Can't wait til it gets cold
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Old 11-28-2016, 08:11 PM   #6
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Deer are out there but just haven't kicked into the next gear...we REALLY need a good frost in Starr.

Heck, it was in the mid 90's in the valley today!!
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Old 11-28-2016, 08:14 PM   #7
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Have seen mature bucks on the move but don't seem to be coming to the corn, need a good freeze soon. Only younger bucks coming to corn. Plenty of deer though and good number of yearlings.
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Old 11-28-2016, 09:21 PM   #8
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Our horns are good but it sounds the same forums. Lots of babies and youngsters. Mature deer are numbered. Am seeing a little early rutting activity. Roughed up does. Some does are getting skinny.
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Old 11-28-2016, 10:36 PM   #9
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Just got back from a trip in Webb County, ranch owner was saying they have more young-big bucks than ever. Also got to put my hands on a 208" deer the owner took on Saturday, holy cow..
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Old 11-29-2016, 06:32 AM   #10
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Correct me if I am wrong but was 2011 really dry followed by the last years really wet so numbers of 5 and up were hit the hardest? We too have an abundance of 4 and below aged bucks and the 4 year olds look like monster bodied deer for age.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:02 AM   #11
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Correct me if I am wrong but was 2011 really dry followed by the last years really wet so numbers of 5 and up were hit the hardest? We too have an abundance of 4 and below aged bucks and the 4 year olds look like monster bodied deer for age.
2011 was really dry and that is the reason we don't have to many 5 year olds running around. We should still have plenty of 6+ year olds though. They were there at the end of last year but several have not shown up yet.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:18 AM   #12
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Doe and baby #'s are way down for us this year...no clue why with all the rain. Seeing a ton of 1-2 year old bucks. More than ever before. Only seen 3 deer all year so far 4+ yrs old
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:27 AM   #13
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I haven't seen a mature buck all year long just spikes and young bucks here and there
How it was for us but last weekend old bucks got up and moved
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:31 AM   #14
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I think its just too hot. I had a couple really good bucks brought in the shop a few weeks back, when that first little cold spell hit. This weekend should get stuff moving around..
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Old 11-29-2016, 02:02 PM   #15
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We had a good fawn crop this year and the young bucks are showing good potential. The older deer have either stayed the same as last season or shown exceptional improvements.

It had been slow for us during bow season with only 1.5-4.5 year olds being sited and some mature bucks but every week we see more and more new deer, and the more mature bucks are starting to make their presence known on the cameras.
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Old 11-29-2016, 02:06 PM   #16
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Great fawn crop. Not shooting trophies this year but should have a few next year that will be interesting.
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Old 11-29-2016, 02:12 PM   #17
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Spent all of Thanksgiving down there.. The deer show very little interest to corn. We have managed to kill a couple of management deer with some age on em but as far as the big mature deer... They are MIA, and we know we left plenty of them out there last year.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:38 PM   #18
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So far it has been a really weird year. Seeing tons of 1-4 yr old bucks. Plenty of doe and not nearly as many as fawns as the last 3 years. Not seeing many mature bucks on camera or from the stands. I have hunted 12 sits so far this year and have yet to see a cull or management buck. The few 5.5 or older bucks I have seen have been 145+. We have to kill 25 bucks this year and have only shot 1. Nobody is seeing any to shoot. I know they are out there just not showing themselves. It is greener now then I have ever seen it this time of year in the last 25 years. Hopefully they will start showing up when it gets cooler and closer to the rut. It would be nice to at least wear a jacket to the stand. I've hunted in shorts every sit this year.
Are y'all still under 145 for culls? Slick 8s or just the 145 at 5.5?
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Old 11-30-2016, 09:17 PM   #19
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Frio county bachelor groups are starting to separate but no mature bucks on camera or being seen.
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Old 11-30-2016, 09:21 PM   #20
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Are y'all still under 145 for culls? Slick 8s or just the 145 at 5.5?
5.5 or older and 140 or less for management. Points don't matter just score. Trophies are 6.5 plus. We have a bunch of old bucks in the 140's that sneak by every year.
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Old 11-30-2016, 11:39 PM   #21
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I'm down south by the Zapata/Webb county line and today when I checked the sd card from the cameras, I saw two different bucks chasing a doe in several pictures through the last four days. Maybe this year the rut is going to start early. For my area, usually that type of action starts after December 18.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:45 AM   #22
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5.5 or older and 140 or less for management. Points don't matter just score. Trophies are 6.5 plus. We have a bunch of old bucks in the 140's that sneak by every year.
I remember that. Remember years u couldn't see a management deer either.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:16 PM   #23
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I'm new to the forum but I hunt just north of Freer. Anyone heading out this weekend know what the weather will be doing? I'm hoping it is lighter Friday and Saturday than they are saying in the rain forecast. I've never hunted down there with real rain before, how does it seem to change the movement patterns?
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:19 PM   #24
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I'm new to the forum but I hunt just north of Freer. Anyone heading out this weekend know what the weather will be doing? I'm hoping it is lighter Friday and Saturday than they are saying in the rain forecast. I've never hunted down there with real rain before, how does it seem to change the movement patterns?
Accuweather seems to be calling for the best chance of good rain Sat. night. It sucks down there when it rains hard. You better have 4 wheel drive of forget about riding around in the pasture. Light rain showers will dry up really quick though. The deer don't seem to mind the rain near as much as the hunters do. It is getting real close to rut so the deer will be moving.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:27 PM   #25
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Accuweather seems to be calling for the best chance of good rain Sat. night. It sucks down there when it rains hard. You better have 4 wheel drive of forget about riding around in the pasture. Light rain showers will dry up really quick though. The deer don't seem to mind the rain near as much as the hunters do. It is getting real close to rut so the deer will be moving.
Yeah, I've been watching the NOAA QPC charts on a daily basis for rainfall amounts, looks like it should be less than a half inch Friday and Saturday. I have 4x4 in the F-150 so I think we should be ok. We hunted opening weekend for General and saw about 6 doe and a tiny spike yearling. I have never seen grass this thick and green in the pipeline right-of-ways....
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:48 PM   #26
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I was down last weekend and the grass is finally starting to die. We did get about 1/3" or rain last Friday evening.
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Old 12-01-2016, 04:01 PM   #27
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Frio county bachelor groups are starting to separate but no mature bucks on camera or being seen.
Same for me. Lot of doe on the feeders and they seem to be moving around a bunch at night.

Just a young buck here and there, but the bachelor groups for now seem to have broken up a bit.
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:55 AM   #28
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Some rutting going on.
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Old 12-02-2016, 07:03 PM   #29
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Some rutting going on.
Are the does cooperating, or the bucks just checking things out. The cold front coming next week might spin things into second gear.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:01 AM   #30
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Brother in jaw seeing some mature bucks locked on does.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:03 AM   #31
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The rut has just barely started in south Texas. It's early or mid December every year.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:21 AM   #32
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The rut has just barely started in south Texas. It's early or mid December every year.
Late december.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:31 AM   #33
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Brother in law. That was bad.
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:43 PM   #34
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Very wet though this weekend.
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Old 12-03-2016, 10:09 PM   #35
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Had an 8 pt cruise by with his nose to the ground this morning. Never bothered with the corn.
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:34 PM   #36
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bucks are starting to move a bit more and started showing up with the doe on the cameras in dilley area. Also seeing some swolen necks. Think this next cold front is going to kick off the rut.
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Old 12-09-2016, 12:33 PM   #37
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Heading out to my place around 2 p.m. Hope to see some movement with this weather.
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Old 12-10-2016, 06:25 AM   #38
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Yesterday afternoon at about 3 was the best movement on mature deer we've had.
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Old 12-10-2016, 10:02 AM   #39
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Yesterday afternoon at about 3 was the best movement on mature deer we've had.
It's time! Good luck

It really kicked off for us in Goliad this week.
Not s tx, but calendar and weather really lined up.
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Old 12-23-2016, 04:11 PM   #40
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Any change to the pattern? Last week was really bad with the full moon. How about y'all?
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Old 12-24-2016, 12:31 PM   #41
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we seem to be missing our 6.5 year old class of bucks. Tons of 3-5 year old studs and lots of 7-9 year old bucks. I went back on our specific lease of 9000 acres and tracked rainfall for the past 7 years. We went 9 months with a total of one inch of rain/drought back during the time frame that the fawns were being born 6 years ago. I have talked to several other ranches in our area and they are experiencing the same thing. Anyone else?
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:45 PM   #42
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Same here. Mature deer are harder to find.
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:49 PM   #43
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we seem to be missing our 6.5 year old class of bucks. Tons of 3-5 year old studs and lots of 7-9 year old bucks. I went back on our specific lease of 9000 acres and tracked rainfall for the past 7 years. We went 9 months with a total of one inch of rain/drought back during the time frame that the fawns were being born 6 years ago. I have talked to several other ranches in our area and they are experiencing the same thing. Anyone else?
That seems to be the case for us as well.
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Old 12-24-2016, 05:31 PM   #44
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Any change to the pattern? Last week was really bad with the full moon. How about y'all?


It was bad last week and first part of this week. Ended up killing a nice 8 that went close to 150. Will be heading down Thursday next week to see what I can see. Looking back at pictures some of my best hunts have been in January after the rut when the bucks are hitting the corn pretty hard.


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Old 12-25-2016, 12:11 AM   #45
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FarmLogs history is a good reference but not totally accurate. It gives me an idea of the effect of rainfall over the past decade. Rain totals don't always extrapolate to good horn years because of timing. It's never an easy year in the brushcountry.


2005 10.28
2006 11.73
2007 30.71
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Old 12-25-2016, 08:12 AM   #46
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Missing a good fawn crop in the mature age classes. Rain hasn't been timely, even though it's been abundant. Our antlers are down overall this year, as is our fawn crop.
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Old 12-25-2016, 08:26 AM   #47
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I take it ur referring to 2016. Do u have a month to month? Our May to August was very dry.

2011 was mainly fall rain if I remember correctly vuz we didn't have a good fawn crop that year.

Fawns, twins and a few triplets are everywhere this year. Healthy animals just slow on the mature bucks.
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Old 12-25-2016, 02:15 PM   #48
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Missing a good fawn crop in the mature age classes. Rain hasn't been timely, even though it's been abundant. Our antlers are down overall this year, as is our fawn crop.


Same at our place in Catarina. Let several 160-170 deer go that went downhill. Our fawn crop is down this year also.


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Old 01-08-2017, 06:12 PM   #49
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Overall I think it was a down year for us. Not sure where some of the deer went. Must have had a die off. Others went down. Lots of babies though and younger deer. Been a strange year. Never really felt like deer season.
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Old 01-11-2017, 03:37 PM   #50
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Yes sir a down year here antler wise . Not seeing as many fawns as previous years but still a fair amount. Will know more next week on fawn survival after I do Helo survey. One thing I have noticed is there is a lot more doe fawns than buck fawns ?
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