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Old 08-24-2015, 07:58 AM   #2601
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Oil down to $38.91 this morning. Another 3%+ drop in one day.
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Old 08-24-2015, 09:13 AM   #2602
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A happy medium will be found a some point. I just hope the Pyote disposal facility that is planned across the road from me is shot down by te RRC. I have brought this up before here and got bashed for it so I will stop...
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Old 08-24-2015, 09:13 AM   #2603
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Next thing you know you'll be investing in Toll Roads and Sonic.
Nope.

And why would you ever think I was anti-oil? I'm in the oilfield in case you didn't know.
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Old 08-24-2015, 09:14 AM   #2604
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A happy medium will be found a some point. I just hope the Pyote disposal facility that is planned across the road from me is shot down by te RRC. I have brought this up before here and got bashed for it so I will stop...

Good luck!
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Old 08-24-2015, 11:17 AM   #2605
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Getting close to a year since I started this thread. Many guys at the time thought it would be a long time until anything happened to the boom. Hopefully next time it won't hit the same guys quite as hard and hope it got to a few in time
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Old 08-24-2015, 11:23 AM   #2606
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I had a chance to spend some time with a buddy this weekend that is a lobbyist for a big out of state O&G company. He was telling me most companies are currently working on contracts with the price of barrel is more like $80 than the current price of oil. He says the real hurt is going to come when those contracts run out in the near future and you will see lots of companies go under.

Is the price of oil today a concern because its affects today or is the futures market that it is going to hurt?
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:35 PM   #2607
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I had a chance to spend some time with a buddy this weekend that is a lobbyist for a big out of state O&G company. He was telling me most companies are currently working on contracts with the price of barrel is more like $80 than the current price of oil. He says the real hurt is going to come when those contracts run out in the near future and you will see lots of companies go under.

Is the price of oil today a concern because its affects today or is the futures market that it is going to hurt?
This ^^^ I a few big oil companies still have oil hedged at 80-90$ a barrel the hurt will come when the hedges run out of oil is still $40 a barrel. One big oil company had natural gas hedged at $8.50 an MCF and that runs out in Jan of 2016. We have not seen the worst of it, if prices don't come back up
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:38 PM   #2608
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This ^^^ I a few big oil companies still have oil hedged at 80-90$ a barrel the hurt will come when the hedges run out of oil is still $40 a barrel. One big oil company had natural gas hedged at $8.50 an MCF and that runs out in Jan of 2016. We have not seen the worst of it, if prices don't come back up
Heck Linn Energy has all of this year and most of next year hedged and their stock is still getting hammered.. From $31 last summer to under $3 now . Some things I don't understand I just go to work until they say not to
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:42 PM   #2609
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Heck Linn Energy has all of this year and most of next year hedged and their stock is still getting hammered.. From $31 last summer to under $3 now . Some things I don't understand I just go to work until they say not to
I saw the same thing, it's not making sense. Most people don't realize the hedges are not out until next year so they are dumping the stock. Samson will be the next to be picked up by a big boy, I think. They are hurting and have a ton of new wells someone could pick up for cheap in a time like this.
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:43 PM   #2610
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XOM is hitting new 4 year lows in pre-market.

And IMO the rebound in oil will not happen slow. They will drop oil until the last person gives up and thinks we have so much oil it will never run low. Then off to the races to the upside.
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I've kind of shifted my thinking to this also.. Maybe slow to 70ish then up like a rocket
Hopefully it will hit a happy medium instead of sky-high prices.
High enough where the long-term/lifelong oil guys are back to work, but low enough to where we don't have $5/gal diesel/gas.
When fuel was that high before, every delivery had a fuel surcharge added.
The only people that could afford to take a vacation were the guys making money hand over fist in the oil patch. But they were always working and didn't have time to go anywhere.
I think we would all be happy with $3, maybe $4, gas.
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:44 PM   #2611
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We are making our second cuts this week. We are evaluating each employee to see if we have to keep them or can we get by without them! Sad times for me, I hate this stuff!!!

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Old 08-24-2015, 04:48 PM   #2612
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Hopefully it will hit a happy medium instead of sky-high prices.
High enough where the long-term/lifelong oil guys are back to work, but low enough to where we don't have $5/gal diesel/gas.
When fuel was that high before, every delivery had a fuel surcharge added.
The only people that could afford to take a vacation were the guys making money hand over fist in the oil patch. But they were always working and didn't have time to go anywhere.
I think we would all be happy with $3, maybe $4, gas.
Yea I sure hope it can settle out and not be extreme either direction
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We are making our second cuts this week. We are evaluating each employee to see if we have to keep them or can we get by without them! Sad times for me, I hate stud stuff!!!

That sucks
Hope it turns around for yall soon
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:50 PM   #2614
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We are making our second cuts this week. We are evaluating each employee to see if we have to keep them or can we get by without them! Sad times for me, I hate stud stuff!!!
Man I sure don't envy that position. I feel bad when anybody loses their way to make a living no matter what industry their in, even the volatile ones that have to come down eventually
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:53 PM   #2615
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We are making our second cuts this week. We are evaluating each employee to see if we have to keep them or can we get by without them! Sad times for me, I hate stud stuff!!!
Sad times indeed. Prayers sent for you and your guys.
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I saw the same thing, it's not making sense. Most people don't realize the hedges are not out until next year so they are dumping the stock. Samson will be the next to be picked up by a big boy, I think. They are hurting and have a ton of new wells someone could pick up for cheap in a time like this.
It does make sense (sadly). Several of these upstream MLP companies are going to fail shortly and it remains to be seen if they will even emerge from (coming) bankruptcy. 3 dollars a share may sound inexpensive; however, it may be overpriced by 3 dollars!
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Old 08-24-2015, 05:20 PM   #2617
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I hate paying at the pump, but hate to see the effect of oil prices falling so low. Effects a lot of good people that I know and lots of good folks I don't know. Hoping for a quick turnaround.
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Old 08-24-2015, 05:50 PM   #2618
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It does make sense (sadly). Several of these upstream MLP companies are going to fail shortly and it remains to be seen if they will even emerge from (coming) bankruptcy. 3 dollars a share may sound inexpensive; however, it may be overpriced by 3 dollars!
I think it doesn't make sense why the stock was $30 or $20 or $12 or heck $6

Now it's near $2. But what has changed? Either something held it up and then let it fall or some other manipulation. It just tanked from $12 to $3 when oil dropped from $44 to $39
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Old 08-24-2015, 05:53 PM   #2619
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close $38.24
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I think it doesn't make sense why the stock was $30 or $20 or $12 or heck $6

Now it's near $2. But what has changed? Either something held it up and then let it fall or some other manipulation. It just tanked from $12 to $3 when oil dropped from $44 to $39
Not my thoughts. . .but I concur.

"The banks will look back at the last twelve months of WTI prices, which on average has been about $45 a barrel if not lower," said Sen. "And suddenly the amount of money available to these U.S. producers to borrow is half, less than half in some cases, compared to a year ago. That makes it very, very difficult for them to continue investing, continue drilling."

If prices stay at current levels or drop further, Sen said she expects some companies will be forced to file for bankruptcy as early as October.


Linn Energy (LINE - Get Report) and Energy XXI (EXXI - Get Report) have already exhausted more than 75% of the credit available to them, and they are in a "more tricky position" than some of the bigger companies, Sen said, and pointed to them as possible bankruptcy candidates.

In research published Monday, Sen wrote there are several companies likely to see their borrowing bases reduced by over 50%.

She added that Midstates Petroleum (MPO - Get Report), Resolute Energy (REN - Get Report), W&T Offshore (WTI - Get Report), Breitburn Energy (BBEP - Get Report), Energy XXI and Comstock Petroleum have seen their borrowing facilities reduced the most.

A reduction in credit will force further capital expenditure cuts among energy companies, said Sen.

What's driving Monday's crude selloff, according to Sen, are fears of weakening demand from China, along with continued oversupply.

But she added the supply/demand situation will improve, adding that Energy Aspects has identified at least 5-million barrels a day of projects that have been delayed or cancelled. By the end of next year, Sen predicts, supplies will tighten, and prices could easily more than double from where they are today.
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Not my thoughts. . .but I concur.

"The banks will look back at the last twelve months of WTI prices, which on average has been about $45 a barrel if not lower," said Sen. "And suddenly the amount of money available to these U.S. producers to borrow is half, less than half in some cases, compared to a year ago. That makes it very, very difficult for them to continue investing, continue drilling."

If prices stay at current levels or drop further, Sen said she expects some companies will be forced to file for bankruptcy as early as October.


Linn Energy (LINE - Get Report) and Energy XXI (EXXI - Get Report) have already exhausted more than 75% of the credit available to them, and they are in a "more tricky position" than some of the bigger companies, Sen said, and pointed to them as possible bankruptcy candidates.

In research published Monday, Sen wrote there are several companies likely to see their borrowing bases reduced by over 50%.

She added that Midstates Petroleum (MPO - Get Report), Resolute Energy (REN - Get Report), W&T Offshore (WTI - Get Report), Breitburn Energy (BBEP - Get Report), Energy XXI and Comstock Petroleum have seen their borrowing facilities reduced the most.

A reduction in credit will force further capital expenditure cuts among energy companies, said Sen.

What's driving Monday's crude selloff, according to Sen, are fears of weakening demand from China, along with continued oversupply.

But she added the supply/demand situation will improve, adding that Energy Aspects has identified at least 5-million barrels a day of projects that have been delayed or cancelled. By the end of next year, Sen predicts, supplies will tighten, and prices could easily more than double from where they are today.
This is obviously what happened but again it didn't happen overnight, in one week, or even in a month. I just wonder how/why no big firms can figure this out prior to the stock tanking. Seems like as the risk increases the stock price should drop accordingly, not just one morning you wake up and they're on the verge of BK.
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Old 08-24-2015, 08:06 PM   #2622
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Starting to feel the heat on the production side...no one has been laid off yet, but man I feel like I'm on a see saw with someone about to jump off the other side and I land on my *** real hard. Thankfully I am a company employee...not sure if that'll do me any good if the **** hits the fan for real, guess I'll just keep on keeping on and pray for the best for everyone in O and G!
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Linn's CFO left the company today.
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Linn's CFO left the company today.
Ouch!!!
That hurt me bad
Couple months ago I bought 1k shares
Guess I need to load up on 3k more shares at these prices
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Ouch!!!
That hurt me bad
Couple months ago I bought 1k shares
Guess I need to load up on 3k more shares at these prices

Brave man.
Good luck.
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Ouch!!!
That hurt me bad
Couple months ago I bought 1k shares
Guess I need to load up on 3k more shares at these prices
Yea I'm too far in to let mine go now and am real tempted to pick up more but I wanna watch it some more
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Ouch!!!
That hurt me bad
Couple months ago I bought 1k shares
Guess I need to load up on 3k more shares at these prices
Oooooof. Good luck. I rode it up--sold some--and am riding it down. Alea jacta est.
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Old 08-24-2015, 09:17 PM   #2628
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Prayers for you guys!!!! Very sad to hear and watch. I know a few fellas that have lost out this go round.
Bad deal all the way around. This is exactly how my grandfather, who worked the fields for many years, ended up working for DOW chemical in Freeport Tx. instead of staying in Electra Texas on the family ranch, where he was born and raised.
I hate my real job but I thank GOD for it daily....
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Y'all are going to make it harder for me to keep my oilfield sales job for spending so much time deleting/moderating this thread instead of selling bits!
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Sorry.. I know this thread has definitely tested your patience a few times but its mostly good in here
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:30 AM   #2631
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Y'all are going to make it harder for me to keep my oilfield sales job for spending so much time deleting/moderating this thread instead of selling bits!

Sorry I knew when I posted those comments that I'd be in trouble!!!!. However I meant all of it and it's hard when we are sending folks home and it affecting their well being!!

Thanks and keep hammering el Jefe!
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Sorry I knew when I posted those comments that I'd be in trouble!!!!. However I meant all of it and it's hard when we are sending folks home and it affecting their well being!!
Man, I'm sorry amigo...one of the worst jobs a boss has is letting good people go. Lots of people affected on those decisions / actions.

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Chin up!!

Yep thanks brother
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Sorry I knew when I posted those comments that I'd be in trouble!!!!. However I meant all of it and it's hard when we are sending folks home and it affecting their well being!!

Thanks and keep hammering el Jefe!
I've been in a similar position of having to let good people go, and I don't envy you. Hang in there.
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Yes sir thanks!
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It's all good. Hard working men always end up in a good spot.
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Whoa whoa man. You can't let facts get in the way of some folks ignorance.
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Old 08-26-2015, 08:28 AM   #2639
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Well, SLB gobbling up Cameron...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...are?cmpid=yhoo
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I feel bad for the Cameron folks. I went through that a couple of times and it's not fun.
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Yep history repeats it's self.
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Cameron hand here..nobody knows what's going to happen, hopefully it'll end positive, a lot of hard working people out here that are just trying to provide for their families..I've been in industrial field 17 yrs..sawmills, steel shops, and oilfield..hasn't been easy trying to find work/family balance throughout the industrial field
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Cameron hand here..nobody knows what's going to happen, hopefully it'll end positive, a lot of hard working people out here that are just trying to provide for their families..I've been in industrial field 17 yrs..sawmills, steel shops, and oilfield..hasn't been easy trying to find work/family balance throughout the industrial field
Keep your head up. Hope everything comes out good for ya brother
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It's really sad our everyday life is subject to what another country is doing on the other side of the world..greed has also been a major factor in this..energy independence would be nice
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Thanks txoutdoorsman24..man its all going to workout, thankful to be healthy and able right now, we've got to remember there's a bigger plan for us all..only he knows the outcome
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:13 AM   #2647
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Thanks txoutdoorsman24..man its all going to workout, thankful to be healthy and able right now, we've got to remember there's a bigger plan for us all..only he knows the outcome
I hear us man.
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:25 AM   #2648
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Having a nice gain today so far
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:56 AM   #2649
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Only 40.00 more to go
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Old 08-27-2015, 12:13 PM   #2650
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up over 8%. I'm ready to pay $3.00/gallon again.
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