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Old 02-14-2015, 08:28 PM   #1551
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My theory is that the U.S. Was in with the Saudis. We wanted to wreck Russia financially, cheap gas prices is basically a tax cut for everyone not in the oil and gas industry. It's a loss the oil and gas states which this admin hates anyways because people are successful. It will be 70$ before its 39$ my theory. Doesn't hurt the U.S. As a whole, have to take everything into consideration
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Old 02-15-2015, 06:34 AM   #1552
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Good morning, men!!! I think I'll go ahead and pour my second cup of NORM. Gunna be a good day!!!!


With a little dash of benzene ?
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Old 02-15-2015, 06:41 AM   #1553
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It's not non toxic and yes they will be hiring. I will let yall know if it goes through so yall can have a job.
Editing your post after someone has quoted your smart &$$ comment. How's that face palm feel?
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Old 02-15-2015, 06:42 AM   #1554
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Thanks for the detailed and informative post.
Seems like o+g is set up like the military.
The guys out on the rig are like the enlisted infantry
With the company man being like a Master Chief Petty Officer or Sergeant Major, I guess
The geologist and geophysicist would be your officers.

How difficult is it for a 18/19 year old kid fresh out of high school to get a job as a roughneck or floorhand during boom times?




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All oil field jobs are the same. Day in and day out, you're worth a small percentage of what you actually make that day. For land, we'll start at the bottom and go up. This is ballpark what they make in Texas. Some a little more, some a little less. Regions like North Dakota will make a few bucks and hour more.

Roughnecks/ Floorhands $20-23 per hour.
You're job is whatever you're told. These are the guys with the least amount of experience. Your job description is making connections. When the joint or stand (30-90') is drilled down, you break the connection from the TopDrive or Kelly, make up either a stand or joint, make the connection. Cleaning and a lot of it, servicing equipment, helping all the other guys. You'll run a forklift, you'll climb 30' of stairs until your legs fall off, and get yelled at for doing stupid stuff so you remember not to do stupid stuff again. You're essentially a helper.

Motorman- $.50-1.00 more an hour than the Floorhands.This is the most underpaid job on a rig in my opinion. You'll be overseeing the Floorhands and helping train them. Assisting in all they do. Your top priority is anything mechanical or electrical. If it needs oil or hydraulic flood, if you have to turn it on or off, if it needs fuel, it's your responsibility. Taking care of the 3 big Cat motors than run the rig is your main job. Sewage detail, fixing all things that get broken, and assisting the derrickman.
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Old 02-15-2015, 06:48 AM   #1555
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Thanks for the detailed and informative post.
Seems like o+g is set up like the military.
The guys out on the rig are like the enlisted infantry
With the company man being like a Master Chief Petty Officer or Sergeant Major, I guess
The geologist and geophysicist would be your officers.

How difficult is it for a 18/19 year old kid fresh out of high school to get a job as a roughneck or floorhand during boom times?
During a boom it's pretty easy.
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Old 02-15-2015, 06:51 AM   #1556
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Thanks for the detailed and informative post.
Seems like o+g is set up like the military.
The guys out on the rig are like the enlisted infantry
With the company man being like a Master Chief Petty Officer or Sergeant Major, I guess
The geologist and geophysicist would be your officers.

How difficult is it for a 18/19 year old kid fresh out of high school to get a job as a roughneck or floorhand during boom times?
I see them every day and was one myself. When things pick back up it's easy to GET a job. KEEPING the job and or moving up quickly is an entirely different thing.
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One of the chemicals that is leached int the air is a known carcinogen that is known to cause childhood cancer and leukemia. OSHA regulates this chemical for adults but takes much less to effect children. Just food for thought.
BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!

Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.

Dihydrogen monoxide:

is also known as hydroxl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect."
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions!

Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!

The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use.


And if you weren't aware dihydrogen monoxide is water. Just shows with a little hysteria you can get the less educated on the band wagon.

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Old 02-15-2015, 08:33 AM   #1558
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Wow. Cant believe the direction this thread has headed.....


We still turning to the right. For now.... Just skidded to a new one. Fixin to n/up and test.
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:39 AM   #1559
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yessir. Glad I am!
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:39 AM   #1560
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Thanks for the detailed and informative post.
Seems like o+g is set up like the military.
The guys out on the rig are like the enlisted infantry
With the company man being like a Master Chief Petty Officer or Sergeant Major, I guess
The geologist and geophysicist would be your officers.

How difficult is it for a 18/19 year old kid fresh out of high school to get a job as a roughneck or floorhand during boom times?
Yep. I graduated high school In May of 96. Went straight to a trailer mounted double drilling rig. Been on rigs ever since.

Guess I been on "Oil and Gas Band Wagon" for a few years.
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Old 02-15-2015, 05:53 PM   #1561
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Dang man that's a heck of a hit
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Man thats a hit. I am seeing some rigs stacked in the eastern panhandle but I also just saw 2 cactus rigs raised in the last couple of weeks. Maybe it will come back around in a few months.

They say the recent price increase was due to the weakening of the Dollar. Thats not a good thing either!

Yeah it is a big hit for a small company. It looks like it is not over yet. I don't know what happens if we get down to 3-4 rigs. I see some of our hands out and about and they are all ready to be back to work.
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Old 02-15-2015, 06:05 PM   #1562
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Yeah it is a big hit for a small company. It looks like it is not over yet. I don't know what happens if we get down to 3-4 rigs. I see some of our hands out and about and they are all ready to be back to work.
What do y'all do? Seems like I was thinking you where in trucking?
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Old 02-15-2015, 07:04 PM   #1563
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What do y'all do? Seems like I was thinking you where in trucking?
I work for a drilling company.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:07 PM   #1564
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I work for a drilling company.
Kind of a broad answer lol
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:03 AM   #1565
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I still check on this thread almost daily.

Detoxed and hopefully back on track with informative information as it was intended for.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:27 AM   #1566
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I still check on this thread almost daily.

Detoxed and hopefully back on track with informative information as it was intended for.
Thank you sir. I dont have much to add but I do like following what is going on without all the unnecessary drama.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:40 AM   #1567
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The founder of our company, Edward Jones, used to say, "make hay while the sun is shining...but ALWAYS put some in the barn for rainy days."
I am going to have to use that one for sure! Hope everything recovers quickly and this downturn does not last too long
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Old 02-16-2015, 01:12 PM   #1568
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I still check on this thread almost daily.

Detoxed and hopefully back on track with informative information as it was intended for.
Thanks Devin! Greatly appreciated.

As for my side of the fence, no changes. Still not on rotation so that's good. Making/staying a hand and keeping the comp men/engineer happy seems to be working. Now if I could get my nighthand to drill as fast, we'll have even more job security. Keep hearing different stories about what oils gonna do. Hurry up and wait to see what happens. Continued prayers for those still looking.
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Old 02-16-2015, 01:17 PM   #1569
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we sell a lot of Teflon parts to some of the big companies. Just got an email from there corporate office asking for an immediate 25% discount on all the goods we provide them. Guess we will be losing that business. We could maybe drop our prices 5% and pay all our bills still. Not sure how they can ask for that.
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we sell a lot of Teflon parts to some of the big companies. Just got an email from there corporate office asking for an immediate 25% discount on all the goods we provide them. Guess we will be losing that business. We could maybe drop our prices 5% and pay all our bills still. Not sure how they can ask for that.
Easy! I've heard of several other companies that are on location say they have had to cut their prices by that and then some to keep the little work they still have... Seems the only way to keep afloat right now is to be cheap
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Old 02-16-2015, 01:38 PM   #1571
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Easy! I've heard of several other companies that are on location say they have had to cut their prices by that and then some to keep the little work they still have... Seems the only way to keep afloat right now is to be cheap
Yep, my son has a service company out west. His prices have always been on the lower side, to be more competative. He has had to cut those prices by 40% since December to keep in good graces.
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Old 02-16-2015, 01:53 PM   #1572
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Old 02-16-2015, 01:58 PM   #1573
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I hear ya on having to drop to keep good graces. but they sure didn't pay us any more for these same parts when oil was at 150 bucks.
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Old 02-16-2015, 08:26 PM   #1574
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What does a pumper do in the oilfield?
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Old 02-16-2015, 08:29 PM   #1575
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boh347 what app are those screen shots from?
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Old 02-16-2015, 08:31 PM   #1576
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What does a pumper do in the oilfield?
they report how much oil/water the wells (they get this info by strapping tanks or electronically at the tank battery) have made and do very basic maintenance work on wells.
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Old 02-16-2015, 08:32 PM   #1577
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Looking at going into an entry level position in nm what does it normally pay?
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Here in Artesia? It is going to depend on the company you hire on with.
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Old 02-16-2015, 08:36 PM   #1579
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Looking at cimarex they're hiring for entry level pumper
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Old 02-16-2015, 08:41 PM   #1580
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Been told pumpers are a pretty much secure job being you always need them. Just looking to get a little more info on the job
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Old 02-16-2015, 09:08 PM   #1581
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Friend of mine said it was the greatest job in the oilfield, captains pay with private responsibilities. My view was quite a bit different, very monotonous to the point of being torture, but don't let anyone mislead you, your responsible for millions of dollars worth of product and equipment, to accurately record daily production and well test, so that the revenue and allowables can be reported to govt. regulatory people, royalty owners and the bean counters that run the numbers to decide if you get to stay or not. That's a broad overview of a pumpers responsibilities and all that has to be done within guidelines set by OSHA, EPA, RRC, the board of directors, the bean counters, the engineers and geologist, and last but not least the parade of jackasses jockeying for supervisor positions on their way up the corporate ladder. Your welcome for that lovely mental image in the land of milk and honey where the unicorns frolic among the rainbows. Truthfully it is what you make of it, good pay, good hours, good benefits. I did it for 30 yrs, got out as soon as I met retirement requirements, it makes the career change much smoother. If you'll go into it with realization of just how much equip. and product you're responsible for and not just another guy on the payroll you'll do well. Good luck in your career.
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Old 02-16-2015, 09:11 PM   #1582
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Friend of mine said it was the greatest job in the oilfield, captains pay with private responsibilities. My view was quite a bit different, very monotonous to the point of being torture, but don't let anyone mislead you, your responsible for millions of dollars worth of product and equipment, to accurately record daily production and well test, so that the revenue and allowables can be reported to govt. regulatory people, royalty owners and the bean counters that run the numbers to decide if you get to stay or not. That's a broad overview of a pumpers responsibilities and all that has to be done within guidelines set by OSHA, EPA, RRC, the board of directors, the bean counters, the engineers and geologist, and last but not least the parade of jackasses jockeying for supervisor positions on their way up the corporate ladder. Your welcome for that lovely mental image in the land of milk and honey where the unicorns frolic among the rainbows. Truthfully it is what you make of it, good pay, good hours, good benefits. I did it for 30 yrs, got out as soon as I met retirement requirements, it makes the career change much smoother. If you'll go into it with realization of just how much equip. and product you're responsible for and not just another guy on the payroll you'll do well. Good luck in your career.

That seems to pretty much sum it up. Seems like something I could handle doing for a while not many jobs around where I'm located
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Old 02-16-2015, 09:18 PM   #1583
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Job description will depend on the company and what kind of wells. When I was a pumper (25 years ago), I worked for a mom and pop and we had different wells - free flowing gas wells, pumping oil wells, gas-lift wells and disposal wells...around 20 wells for me to produce.

I kept the leases mowed, monthly compressor maintenance, daily well production reports, scheduled oil and water hauls, winterizing, equipment repairs, etc. Some companies have contractors do much of that work. And maybe today's equipment requires less attention.

The job is somewhat secure...at least until the wells are no longer commercially productive or another company buys the wells and has their own pumpers.

Not trying to scare you, just giving you the benefit of my experience. I loved the oil patch.
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Old 02-16-2015, 09:22 PM   #1584
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Yep, my son has a service company out west. His prices have always been on the lower side, to be more competative. He has had to cut those prices by 40% since December to keep in good graces.
I just don't see how in the world anyone could or would cut rate by 40%!!

That would leave zero margins and put 90% of companies in the red......
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Old 02-16-2015, 09:28 PM   #1585
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I just don't see how in the world anyone could or would cut rate by 40%!!

That would leave zero margins and put 90% of companies in the red......
He has a solid business and is doing everything he can to keep his guys working. Still leaves him a small profit but I guess he must be in the other 10%. I don't know - I don't get in his business.
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Looking at going into an entry level position in nm what does it normally pay?

Depends what company you work for. Many companies hire pumpers through a contract company....and only the top hand are employed by the oil company directly.

I'd say $18-$22 starting out with a little bump in pay once you prove that you are committed to your job and not just looking for a pay check. (90 days)

Many companies provide everything you need for the job. Truck. Tools. Phone. Fuel card. Computer. Etc.
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He has a solid business and is doing everything he can to keep his guys working. Still leaves him a small profit but I guess he must be in the other 10%. I don't know - I don't get in his business.

Is he in the rental business?
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:13 PM   #1588
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The slow down has definitely hit us now.. We are SLOW.. Probably gonna have to let a few guys go pretty soon.
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:21 PM   #1589
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Is he in the rental business?
Rents a little but more of his work is service related.
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:22 PM   #1590
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40% cut on prices is crazy. I've had some friends who got asked to cut prices by 20%, they are in the rental side. The company just asked for a flat 20% cut on everything that was on location, all the way down to portapotties.

As for my company, I'd cut prices some depending on which company asked, but not 40%
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We have now been hit. My company cut a few guys Friday
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Our company has got several of those letters demanding we cut our prices. Anywhere from 10% up to 40%, or they just quit using us altogether. Had to let a couple of crews go, had to fire a couple of customers to, a company that works several pieces of equipment on a regular basis ask for a 10-15% cost reduction is something you can work with, a customer that only calls when their preferred company can't work them in, demands a 40% cut gets fired. It's cheaper to park equipment and wait. Hope we don't have wait to long or else I'm gonna be hiring out backhoes to put in food plots for some of you guys.
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:35 PM   #1593
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Day rates will go down a lot faster than they will come up when things turn around.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:06 PM   #1594
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I just don't see how in the world anyone could or would cut rate by 40%!!
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40% cut on prices is crazy. I've had some friends who got asked to cut prices by 20%, they are in the rental side. The company just asked for a flat 20% cut on everything that was on location, all the way down to portapotties.

As for my company, I'd cut prices some depending on which company asked, but not 40%
If you can cover your variable costs of production and still cover some portion of your fixed costs, then selling with a 40% discount is better than no sales at all.
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:48 AM   #1595
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Rents a little but more of his work is service related.
Ten 4! I know the rental business can have margins that high but not normal in other sectors of the service business.

I feel for him and wish him the best luck in the world!

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Our company has got several of those letters demanding we cut our prices. Anywhere from 10% up to 40%, or they just quit using us altogether. Had to let a couple of crews go, had to fire a couple of customers to, a company that works several pieces of equipment on a regular basis ask for a 10-15% cost reduction is something you can work with, a customer that only calls when their preferred company can't work them in, demands a 40% cut gets fired. It's cheaper to park equipment and wait. Hope we don't have wait to long or else I'm gonna be hiring out backhoes to put in food plots for some of you guys.
Luckily we haven't been hammered down too much yet, but I couldn't have out it any better myself when you say there are some customers you have To "FIRE"! We have laid a few off and are taking a really hard look at all the services we provide. If they aren't profitable by our standards we are shutting it down now! Sometimes a down turn gives you an opportunity to really look at you business and get better and more efficient pretty quickly!
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:58 AM   #1596
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If you can cover your variable costs of production and still cover some portion of your fixed costs, then selling with a 40% discount is better than no sales at all.
A rate reduction is a very hard thing to get back! Especially when you cut every ounce of your margins out! This mindset will put you under more times than get you through the hard times! We don't work, provide jobs and provide services for the fun of it! We as companies have to make money too! There are many, many other ways to cut back, watch expenses, cut back hours and overtime to assist in a reduction of cost with the production companies! A 40% reduction in rates is ridiculous and bad for the service industry! No one can survive that nor should be asked to!!
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Old 02-17-2015, 07:22 AM   #1597
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I've cut my rate maybe 5% for one customer, I own a small trucking co. I've never gouged the customer when times were good and my rates were competitive wih most which was 125 an hr for heavy haul. I've heard of quite a few charging 150 and I thought that was a bit much.
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Old 02-17-2015, 07:23 AM   #1598
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boh347 what app are those screen shots from?
It's commodities.
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Old 02-17-2015, 07:46 AM   #1599
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We are sending a letter back to them today. We can possibly survive a 5% reduction in our prices for our goods but that is it. Hopefully it doesn't cost us our business. We have been busting our tail for them for the last 25 years and have a great relationship and have never raised prices when times were good. Hopefully that relationship will be enough. The costs they are asking for will not even cover our raw material costs. We would me machining the parts for free.
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Old 02-17-2015, 07:49 AM   #1600
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Just rubs you the wrong way sometimes. The guy that sent over this price reduction request sent me over pictures 6 months back of all of their high end office guys with 200+ deer that they went and shot as a company bonus. How much are they actually cutting cost on their end? They want all of their suppliers to do the dirty work for them.
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