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Old 10-12-2017, 08:54 PM   #1
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As I read the regulations, there are 4 "Archery Only" counties in Texas.
In all other counties, crossbows are considered "archery" equipment.
In the 4 "Archery Only" counties, crossbows are not allowed during the "Archery Season".
Explain the thinking behind this.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:58 PM   #2
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When you shoot a crossbow, it's not archery. That's my thinking
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:16 PM   #4
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:20 PM   #5
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When you shoot a crossbow, it's not archery. That's my thinking
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:26 PM   #7
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Why do so many people hate crossbows?
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:31 PM   #8
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Why do so many people hate crossbows?
Not for sure, but my boys love theirs. So far they have killed a nice buck and a turkey with it this year. I sighted theirs in and it was a blast to shoot.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:32 PM   #9
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Why do so many people hate crossbows?
No Hate at all. My grandson has been killing deer and hogs with one since he was 5 years old. Hunting with him has been the high point of my life but they are not really bow hunting.
More like a single shot rifle
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:33 PM   #10
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Why do so many people hate crossbows?


Crossbows are kinda like a 9mm......most people that shoot them squat to pee.


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Old 10-12-2017, 09:36 PM   #11
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:37 PM   #12
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:38 PM   #13
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When you shoot a crossbow, it's not archery. That's my thinking
I believe that is the question. If a crossbow is not archery then why is it allowed during archery season. If it is archery then why is it not allowed in "archery only" counties. Maybe there is logic in there somewhere but I don't see it.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:38 PM   #14
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This is just my thinking, but it seems to be a crossbow is a lot easier to learn how to use. Maybe they don't have a lot of deer in those counties and feel bow and arrow evens the odds a bit more due to the practice and time needed to shoot a bow correctly?????
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Not for sure, but my boys love theirs. So far they have killed a nice buck and a turkey with it this year. I sighted theirs in and it was a blast to shoot.
Are you 100% sure you could sight a vertical bow in for your boys?
In my mind, a bow is an individual fit piece of hunting equipment.
I really like the fact that small framed hunters and older, or handicapped hunters are able to hunt with an Xbow during the "Archery only" season, but why does the State of Texas differentiate these 4 counties from the rest of the State?
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:40 PM   #16
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This is just my thinking, but it seems to be a crossbow is a lot easier to learn how to use. Maybe they don't have a lot of deer in those counties and feel bow and arrow evens the odds a bit more due to the practice and time needed to shoot a bow correctly?????
Wheels are just as easy to shoot...
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Are you 100% sure you could sight a vertical bow in for your boys?
In my mind, a bow is an individual fit piece of hunting equipment.
I really like the fact that small framed hunters and older, or handicapped hunters are able to hunt with an Xbow during the "Archery only" season, but why does the State of Texas differentiate these 4 counties from the rest of the State?
Because God blessed only 4 counties😜
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:42 PM   #18
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I think the state of Texas gives archery hunters a 5 week advantage before deer can be shot with rifles. In the archery only counties, the state of Texas gives "real" archery hunters an advantage over crossbow shooters because they wouldn't have one otherwise.

I still would like to buy a crossbow though
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:47 PM   #19
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No Hate at all. My grandson has been killing deer and hogs with one since he was 5 years old. Hunting with him has been the high point of my life but they are not really bow hunting.
More like a single shot rifle
End of discussion....close thread!!
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:55 PM   #20
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Way back when Traditional archers said the same thing about compounds. Some still do. Haha I like them all. Stick and string to crossbow. To each his own, but we all need to stick together. IMO
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:57 PM   #21
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Crossbow has a stock and a trigger. Not archery. Still awesome.


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Old 10-12-2017, 09:59 PM   #22
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Way back when Traditional archers said the same thing about compounds. Some still do. Haha I like them all. Stick and string to crossbow. To each his own, but we all need to stick together. IMO
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:13 PM   #23
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I liked the old rule where they were only allowed during general season or for the handicapped.

I think the rule OP is questioning stemmed from Grayson county. The good thing about grayson is, when TPWD has a meeting regarding the rules and reg, bowhunters show up in good numbers and voice their opinion.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:06 PM   #24
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My release has a trigger. Should releases be banned?!
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:10 PM   #25
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It is laughable when people try to defend crossbows as archery. If a 8 year old can pick something up. Get a good rest and kill an animal or hit dead center consistently with zero practice.. It isnt archery.. Not to mention the fact you dont have to get drawn on an animal when it is at 20 yards. Come on now
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:14 PM   #26
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It is laughable when people try to defend crossbows as archery. If a 8 year old can pick something up. Get a good rest and kill an animal or hit dead center consistently with zero practice.. It isnt archery.. Not to mention the fact you dont have to get drawn on an animal when it is at 20 yards. Come on now
While I agree, couldn't the same thing be said when comparing crossbows to rifles? No way can a crossbow make a reliable, clean kill anywhere close to the ranges that an off the shelf rifle can. A crossbow isn't a bow no, but it's also not a rifle.

That being said, I have no problem with the current rules in either archery only counties or general counties.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:17 PM   #27
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Quality management would be my guess.
It’s a lot easier to get busted with stick and string or wheelie bows.
But just my hunch.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:18 PM   #28
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While I agree, couldn't the same thing be said when comparing crossbows to rifles? No way can a crossbow make a reliable, clean kill anywhere close to the ranges that an off the shelf rifle can. A crossbow isn't a bow no, but it's also not a rifle.

That being said, I have no problem with the current rules in either archery only counties or general counties.
It isnt rifle hunting.. it is crossbow hunting. It doesnt even shoot arrows..

I have nothing against them. In my opinion the people who use them during archery that arent a kid or disabled person are most likely the same people that used to not pick up their bow all year and then wound stuff. So I am good with them. I would much rather most of the deer that get shot get recovered.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:21 PM   #29
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It isnt rifle hunting.. it is crossbow hunting. It doesnt even shoot arrows..

I have nothing against them. In my opinion the people who use them during archery that arent a kid or disabled person are most likely the same people that used to not pick up their bow all year and then wound stuff. So I am good with them. I would much rather most of the deer that get shot get recovered.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:22 PM   #30
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30 posts and still no real answer. I didn't realize crossbows were not allowed in Archery only counties. I agree with the OP that is doesn't make sense to allow anyone to use crossbows during the Archery only season in every county except for the Archery only counties
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:25 PM   #31
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While I agree, couldn't the same thing be said when comparing crossbows to rifles? No way can a crossbow make a reliable, clean kill anywhere close to the ranges that an off the shelf rifle can. A crossbow isn't a bow no, but it's also not a rifle.

That being said, I have no problem with the current rules in either archery only counties or general counties.
Mathews just released one that shoots sub 1" groups at 100 yards. I'd wager the majority of Texas deer are killed with a rifle at closer than 100 yards
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:27 PM   #32
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30 posts and still no real answer. I didn't realize crossbows were not allowed in Archery only counties. I agree with the OP that is doesn't make sense to allow anyone to use crossbows during the Archery only season in every county except for the Archery only counties
Crossbows are allowed in archery only counties during the general season
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:08 AM   #33
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I live in one of the archery only counties. I personally am happy they aren't allowed during the general season. I hunt my small property only when the wind and weather are right all season long. Yea, there is always a chance of something huge walking by but I usually don't see a thing. We don't have the numbers of deer a lot of other counties do. So I'm glad my county makes people put forth a little more effort to hunt the bow season.
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:17 AM   #34
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Mathews just released one that shoots sub 1" groups at 100 yards. I'd wager the majority of Texas deer are killed with a rifle at closer than 100 yards
Shooting a bow to it's maximum achievable accuracy is much much much harder than shooting a gun to its maximum achievable accuracy. I'm sure many bows have incredible accuracy capable of hitting a small spot at extreme distances. Wether or not a human can make that shot is a different story. Just as many rifles are capable of accurate shots at extreme distances, with the shooter being the variable.

I would argue there is a VERY small number of people on earth that can truly shoot a rifle to it's accuracy potential. I'd argue there are far fewer that can shoot a bow to its accuracy potential.

All that is being said with zero mind towards the slow speed of an arrow and how quickly a deer could move on a 100yd shot from a bow.

Now what crossbow should I buy?
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:34 AM   #35
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Crossbows are like rifles. They require no skill. My boys hunt with one. I know.
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As I read the regulations, there are 4 "Archery Only" counties in Texas.
In all other counties, crossbows are considered "archery" equipment.
In the 4 "Archery Only" counties, crossbows are not allowed during the "Archery Season".
Explain the thinking behind this.
Wait! What? There are four archery only counties? Who are the other three?
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Because the state probably knows it shouldn't be legal.. (unless it's someone with a disability)
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:02 AM   #38
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:10 AM   #39
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Wait! What? There are four archery only counties? Who are the other three?
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:21 AM   #40
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I hate the things. Can't explain why. Starting to hate compounds also. I would be good if both were outlawed in all counties. Hopefully some day, some of the guys using crossbows and compounds will get bored with the simplicity of the things and decide to really learn the sport of archery. It is fascinating what all is involved in making two sticks and a string shoot consistently.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:24 AM   #41
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Crossbows are doing to archery what In-line muzzleloaders have done to muzzle loader season.
Pick up any hunting magazine and all you see is advertisements for crossbows.
Folks now days want to take the easy way over putting in a little effort, and the excuse used is "I just don't have the time!"
The manufacturers see the market and fill the demand, and you can't blame them.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:29 AM   #42
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Definition of archery
1 :the art, practice, or skill of shooting with bow and arrow


I don't equate crossbows and bows at the same skill level. However, the definition is in the name so .....
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:30 AM   #43
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Yep. It's hunting with a crossbow.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:39 AM   #44
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Crossbows are legal in all of these counties.

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Old 10-13-2017, 06:41 AM   #45
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Crossbows are kinda like a 9mm......most people that shoot them squat to pee.
Easy....EASY...
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:50 AM   #46
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Crossbows are legal in all of these counties.

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The way I read the regs in the Outdoor Annual App, you are correct.

Used to not be that way

Of course that app has been known to be wrong
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:53 AM   #47
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The way I read the regs in the Outdoor Annual App, you are correct.

Used to not be that way

Of course that app has been known to be wrong
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:59 AM   #48
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A high quality crossbow with a good trigger and a scope is is wickedly accurate out to 100 yds.If a person (man ,woman or child) can shoot a rifle accurately then they can shoot a crossbow.Very little skill or effort required other than cocking it. My guess for not allowing crossbows in certain counties is they would make ideal weapons for poachers from a vehicle.I never had a problem with them in the regular season but I do not think they have a place during the archery season in any county.
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:18 AM   #49
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I don't see crossbows going away any time soon, since now it seems everyone has one since the market seems to be flooded with them.
Went the other day to buy some arrows, and most of what was had were crossbow arrows.
I know it was Academy, but that tells you something about what people want the most of.
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:18 AM   #50
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I know that my great uncle switched to a cross bow after his shoulder surgery and arthritis for the main fact he couldn't pull back a bow anymore.
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