pawn question

[Ishi&Elvis]

My daughter and husband are divorcing. He took a gun to the pawn shop for some cash and put it in her name. She holds the ticket. If I give her the money and she takes it back out, who is the owner of that gun? Can she sell it? I've never gotten anything from a pawn shop and don't know anything about them. Please enlighten me. The SIL is the owner of the gun.

[Atfulldraw]

Did he intend to transfer ownership ?

[WItoTX]

He pawned his sisters gun but put the actual ticket in his wife (Your daughters) name? Did I understand that correctly?

If so, does his sister know he pawned her gun? Sounds shady to me.

[spread5150]

If the ticket is in her name and she pulls it out it’s her gun. She can sell it if she wants too.

[txpitdog]

Call the pawn shop


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[basskicker24]

Make sure the SIL knows the gun was pawned and she doesn't report it stolen. I agree with WItoTX, it sounds shady.

[hooligan]

whoever has the ticket will have to fill out a 4473 to pick the gun up so I think that they would be the owner?

[Ishi&Elvis]

My SIL pawned his gun for money, but put his wife, my daughter's name on the ticket. So I am assuming she can go down with the money and claim it. He is the owner of the gun, but she wants to keep it, or sell it if she needs $$ and he is unwilling to help out on expenses. It sounds like she, because her name is on the ticket, claim the gun, but can she then sell it without his permission?

[Cajun Blake]

just for clarification "SIL" = son in law correct ? or sister n law ?


Pretty sure the gun legally belongs to the SIL (based on NICS paperwork). Sounds fishy that he pawned it in her name Did he have any prior arrests which he may have been trying to hide from ? Did she provide the Pawn Shop with her drivers license # and personally sign for the pawn ?

If you pay the money to get the gun out of Pawn, "on paper" it is still registered to the SIL unless there is a Bill of Sale from SIL to your daughter. You may end up paying the loan amount + interest ($200, $300, ??? ) and then have to give the gun back to the SIL. If there is bitterness and animosity where things will get ugly, it may not even be worth fooling with. The SIL was initially dishonest.

Depending on value of gun … i.e. $200 Rem 870 …. forget about it. $2,000 Beretta O/U …. definitely should be considered. Either way, the SIL should reimburse you for the Pawn amount.

[Ishi&Elvis]

He does not have any arrests or any thing of that nature. Not sure why it's in her name, but it is. I told her I would go with her to get it if she wants and I will keep it until he wants it, and if he does he can reimburse me when he can.

[Cajun Blake]

He does not have any arrests or any thing of that nature. Not sure why it's in her name, but it is. I told her I would go with her to get it if she wants and I will keep it until he wants it, and if he does he can reimburse me when he can.

When something is pawned, you have to show a DL and sign the paperwork. Was your daughter with the SIL at the PS and did she actually sign the pawn ticket, or did the SIL forge her name ?


edit: I support you in getting the gun out of pawn, and SIL can pay you back later if he wants the gun

[Jven]

Whoever holds the pawn tciket is the only one that can redeem the pawn. If its in her name she must have been present at the time of the pawn. At least thats how it works at my father in laws shop and hes by the book.

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[Ishi&Elvis]

I'll have to ask how it got done at the pawn shop as I am unsure. If he does not have the money now, it will cost too much later with interest I'm sure. So getting it out will do him a favor and if he wants to transfer ownership to her then we'll get that done also. I have never dealt with a pawn shop and don't know the first thing about it. And yes, SIL, son-in-law.

[Quackerbox]

Whoever holds the pawn tciket is the only one that can redeem the pawn. If its in her name she must have been present at the time of the pawn. At least thats how it works at my father in laws shop and hes by the book.

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mostly this.

How her name got on the ticket without being there sounds fishy

[denimdeerslayer]

There isnt a gun registry and are not titled. So If the pawn slip is in her name yes she can go get it.