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Old 02-01-2018, 02:59 PM   #301
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I don't know either way about government involvement so i won't argue that statement. I will say after the evidence that is coming out about the corrupt things the democrats did surrounding the election I wouldn't put it past the democrats to do anything so evil.
There you go with DNC vs GOP again.
Even though it was GOP that brought this about I'm saying the entire govt is complicit.

Read up on Gary Webb

I'm not saying the color of their skin makes them less likely to be able to "think up" How to cook crack.
I could be saying that given their access to education and lack of political collateral greatly reduces the likelihood for them to be able to come up with such a great plan to flood the streets of every ghetto in America with a particular drug.

Think about it, you have kids 16 to 24 with barely an 8th grade education bringing in tons of coke from Nicaragua?
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I still can't believe you tried to pin it on the dems when clearly Regaen ran the CIA and the Iran Contra which involved Nicaragua and the importing of cocaine from there.
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There you go with DNC vs GOP again.
Even though it was GOP that brought this about I'm saying the entire govt is complicit.

Read up on Gary Webb

I'm not saying the color of their skin makes them less likely to be able to "think up" How to cook crack.
I could be saying that given their access to education and lack of political collateral greatly reduces the likelihood for them to be able to come up with such a great plan to flood the streets of every ghetto in America with a particular drug.

Think about it, you have kids 16 to 24 with barely an 8th grade education bringing in tons of coke from Nicaragua?
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Yeah ok.



I still can't believe you tried to pin it on the dems when clearly Regaen ran the CIA and the Iran Contra which involved Nicaragua and the importing of cocaine from there.
What the F does any of this have to do with the SOTU address?
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What the F does any of this have to do with the SOTU address?
Trump stated we would step up the war drugs. T’fans maintains that there would be no war on drugs without the govt bringing them here and teaching poor black kids from the projects how to smuggle in raw materials and cook the stuff. But he can’t really explain how poor white trailertrash figures out how to cook meth or really how uneducated folks have been figuring out how to smuggle anything and everything since the beginning of time. Hell my college girlfriend couldn’t figure out why the red m’s tasted better than the green w’s, but she smuggled raisins everywhere she went!

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ring-sotu.html
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But he can’t really explain how poor white trailertrash figures out how to cook meth or really how uneducated folks have been figuring out how to smuggle anything and everything since the beginning of time.

Govt started meth too.
Anybody can grow weed.
It's a plant.
It's natural.
But making cocaine is a huge process just as cooking meth is.
You need all these special chemicals to make meth.
Dexatrim, cough syrup, Mr bubble bath, etc
Who sits around in their single wide thinking up stuff like that?
Wouldn't it be easier just to grow some weed on a neck acre you got?

And it has nothing to do with color but it has 100% to do with poverty.
These drug epidemics are hitting the lower income areas harder than wealthy areas.

Uneducated folks can smuggle a pound or two of cocaine across a border.
But we are talking METRIC TONS that fill entire container ships or submarines full of drugs being smuggled.
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Govt started meth too.

Anybody can grow weed.

It's a plant.

It's natural.

But making cocaine is a huge process just as cooking meth is.

You need all these special chemicals to make meth.

Dexatrim, cough syrup, Mr bubble bath, etc

Who sits around in their single wide thinking up stuff like that?

Wouldn't it be easier just to grow some weed on a neck acre you got?



And it has nothing to do with color but it has 100% to do with poverty.

These drug epidemics are hitting the lower income areas harder than wealthy areas.



Uneducated folks can smuggle a pound or two of cocaine across a border.

But we are talking METRIC TONS that fill entire container ships or submarines full of drugs being smuggled.


So...you liked the speech??
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Old 02-02-2018, 12:36 PM   #309
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Ahhh ok I got it. Trumps comment on Americans as dreamers..as well as fellow TBH'ers quoting him, both did not include reference to American Indians as a pre-american dreamers so you enlighten us all on right leaning forgotten/purged history. Thanks for helping draw us back into reality.
I love this silly Indians argument. However, it is scary how some people's minds work. "Or doesn't"

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Govt started meth too.
Anybody can grow weed.
It's a plant.
It's natural.
But making cocaine is a huge process just as cooking meth is.
You need all these special chemicals to make meth.
Dexatrim, cough syrup, Mr bubble bath, etc
Who sits around in their single wide thinking up stuff like that?
Wouldn't it be easier just to grow some weed on a neck acre you got?

And it has nothing to do with color but it has 100% to do with poverty.
These drug epidemics are hitting the lower income areas harder than wealthy areas.

Uneducated folks can smuggle a pound or two of cocaine across a border.
But we are talking METRIC TONS that fill entire container ships or submarines full of drugs being smuggled.
You introduced race into the discussion. Furthermore you do realize that very uneducated people imported humans by the METRIC tons... what’s easier to smuggle humans for blocks of nose candy?
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Ahhh ok I got it. Trumps comment on Americans as dreamers..as well as fellow TBH'ers quoting him, both did not include reference to American Indians as a pre-american dreamers so you enlighten us all on right leaning forgotten/purged history. Thanks for helping draw us back into reality.


He didn’t mention Indians...he didn’t mention the Irish, Italians, the Chinese, the Norwegians, or any of the hundreds of other nationalities or cultures that make us up. He said “AMERICANS”. Last I checked, native Americans were part of that label.
As for that “purged history”, it happened. Over 500 years. What do YOU think he should have said about that?
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That’s easy...all of them!
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He didn’t mention Indians...he didn’t mention the Irish, Italians, the Chinese, the Norwegians, or any of the hundreds of other nationalities or cultures that make us up. He said “AMERICANS”. Last I checked, native Americans were part of that label.
As for that “purged history”, it happened. Over 500 years. What do YOU think he should have said about that?
I just caught this, how long do you think we have been here?
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I just caught this, how long do you think we have been here?


Who? Natives? Depends...some say 30,000 years, some say 45,000. Or are you talking about tribes? Some have been distinct for 500-700 years. Some much more recent. My own ancestors, a branch of what became choctaws, came to my area after the obliteration of the Analco culture. The Spanish inadvertatley destroyed them with small pox in the 1500s.
But state your point. And why trump should have mentioned any of that in the SOTU.
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Who? Natives? Depends...some say 30,000 years, some say 45,000. Or are you talking about tribes? Some have been distinct for 500-700 years. Some much more recent. My own ancestors, a branch of what became choctaws, came to my area after the obliteration of the Analco culture. The Spanish inadvertatley destroyed them with small pox in the 1500s.
But state your point. And why trump should have mentioned any of that in the SOTU.
I wasn’t making a point, I thought you were implying that American colonist had inhabited America for 500 years
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He didn’t mention Indians...he didn’t mention the Irish, Italians, the Chinese, the Norwegians, or any of the hundreds of other nationalities or cultures that make us up. He said “AMERICANS”. Last I checked, native Americans were part of that label.
As for that “purged history”, it happened. Over 500 years. What do YOU think he should have said about that?
Just curious,
You don't think those groups considered themselves Americans?
Didn't they all come here to become Americans? I know the natives didn't but the rest of your list came here by choice didn't they?
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I wasn’t making a point, I thought you were implying that American colonist had inhabited America for 500 years


Oh, no!! I was thinking you referred to the indigenous people’s trump failed to embrace as “Americans” because he didn’t specifically mention them or the 500 years of expansion of Europeans into their lands.
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Just curious,

You don't think those groups considered themselves Americans?

Didn't they all come here to become Americans? I know the natives didn't but the rest of your list came here by choice didn't they?


Of course they did. And they are indeed Americans. My post was in reply to another poster who expressed anger because trump didn’t specifically mention native Americans or the “purged history”, as he referred to it, of the European expansion. My question to him was...why would trump mention that in the SOTU?
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Of course they did. And they are indeed Americans. My post was in reply to another poster who expressed anger because trump didn’t specifically mention native Americans or the “purged history”, as he referred to it, of the European expansion. My question to him was...why would trump mention that in the SOTU?
Because he can
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Of course they did. And they are indeed Americans. My post was in reply to another poster who expressed anger because trump didn’t specifically mention native Americans or the “purged history”, as he referred to it, of the European expansion. My question to him was...why would trump mention that in the SOTU?
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Yes. Then what? Should he talk about slavery? The anti immigrant sentiment in the 1800s against the Irish? The mistreatment and murders of Chinese railroad workers? Should he pick one group over all others that you want attention drawn to instead of ALL Americans? Why? Don’t all Americans matter? It was a SOTU address. He gave a good one. Because he didn’t call attention to policy directed at natives by the government of this country over the course of history didn’t make it less.

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Yes. Then what? Should he talk about slavery? The anti immigrant sentiment in the 1800s against the Irish? The mistreatment and murders of Chinese railroad workers? Should he pick one group over all others that you want attention drawn to instead of ALL Americans? Why? Don’t all Americans matter? It was a SOTU address. He gave a good one. Because he didn’t call attention to policy directed at natives by the government of this country over the course of history didn’t make it less.
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So...you liked the speech??
What is there to like?
I listen for portions that effect my life and prepare myself accordingly.
He said he's going to fix our horrible roads and bridges with an infrastructure program.
Same thing Osama said but houston roads are still in horrible shape.
Well actually Sylvester Turner is trying to fill potholes quicker.

He said a cop adopted a baby.
Cool.
Ok.
And???
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I wish I was close enough so I could give you a high 5.
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What is there to like?
I listen for portions that effect my life and prepare myself accordingly.
He said he's going to fix our horrible roads and bridges with an infrastructure program.
Same thing Osama said but houston roads are still in horrible shape.
Well actually Sylvester Turner is trying to fill potholes quicker.

He said a cop adopted a baby.
Cool.
Ok.
And???


So trump says he will fix all those roads Obama promised you he would fix, but because Obama DIDNT fix them, your mad at trump...
You wanted him to talk about things that affect your life? Sorry you don’t pay taxes, depend on a better economy, or need a job, because those of us that do are seeing results.
Those potholes you whine about? Tell me, who runs Houston?
Trump said a lot of good things. You paid attention to none of them. But I’m happy your happy about that adaption.

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So trump says he will fix all those roads Obama promised you he would fix, but because Obama DIDNT fix them, your mad at trump...
You wanted him to talk about things that affect your life? Sorry you don’t pay taxes, depend on a better economy, or need a job, because those of us that do are seeing results.
Those potholes you whine about? Tell me, who runs Houston?
Trump said a lot of good things. You paid attention to none of them. But I’m happy your happy about that adaption.

you really know how to hurt a liberal's feelings. Don't you know that truth to a lib is like kryptonite to superman?
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you really know how to hurt a liberal's feelings. Don't you know that truth to a lib is like kryptonite to superman?
Why do yall throw around the word liberal as if it is derogatory?

Liberal / conservative lives on a continuum.
Do you think blacks or women should be able to vote?
Depending upon how you answer that might flip your "conservative" badge if this was 100 years ago.

Do you think blacks should be able to go to the same schools and drink out of the same water fountain as whites?

50 years ago your label might be changed.

Unless you just want to be PC about it.

Again, what we think of as "conservative" today was probably ultra left wing a few decades ago.

When did accepting gay marriage become part of "conservatism"? But yet and still it is working its way in.
States rights I guess.
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Why do yall throw around the word liberal as if it is derogatory?

Liberal / conservative lives on a continuum.
Do you think blacks or women should be able to vote?
Depending upon how you answer that might flip your "conservative" badge if this was 100 years ago.

Do you think blacks should be able to go to the same schools and drink out of the same water fountain as whites?

50 years ago your label might be changed.

Unless you just want to be PC about it.

Again, what we think of as "conservative" today was probably ultra left wing a few decades ago.

When did accepting gay marriage become part of "conservatism"? But yet and still it is working its way in.
States rights I guess.
What you say has merit. The parties have changed positions since I first started voting. The Dems use to be the conservatives and the Reps the liberals.

I'm not sure there is much difference in the two actual parties main liners anymore. Just the extremes on both sides.

And both parties are only concerned with being in power, not us.

Just an opinion.

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Why do yall throw around the word liberal as if it is derogatory?

Liberal / conservative lives on a continuum.
Do you think blacks or women should be able to vote?
Depending upon how you answer that might flip your "conservative" badge if this was 100 years ago.

Do you think blacks should be able to go to the same schools and drink out of the same water fountain as whites?

50 years ago your label might be changed.

Unless you just want to be PC about it.

Again, what we think of as "conservative" today was probably ultra left wing a few decades ago.

When did accepting gay marriage become part of "conservatism"? But yet and still it is working its way in.
States rights I guess.


Stop it. You throw out topics like blacks voting and women’s rights as if modern liberals had anything to do with that. Modern liberals wear vagina suits and pink hats modeled after a reproductive body part. They hold marches screaming “impeach him!” For no other reason that he’s not a Clinton and they don’t like it. Liberal elected officials get on TV wearing pink cowboy hats and purple eye shadow up to her eye brows and tell us how silly trumps hair looks. They yell”resist everything trump does!” While ignoring good things he does. And you make me excuses for that...
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Why do yall throw around the word liberal as if it is derogatory?
You may find it derogatory but I think we find it to be a perfect description. You come across with an air of superiority about you like you need to teach us something on every topic that comes up. Pretty much a know it all on any subject. That doesnt tend to play well over any period of time. And your are way past the period of time folks might tolerate it and listen to you. Im guessing you received poor grades in "plays well with others" when you were young.
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Stop it. You throw out topics like blacks voting and women’s rights as if modern liberals had anything to do with that. Modern liberals wear vagina suits and pink hats modeled after a reproductive body part. They hold marches screaming “impeach him!” For no other reason that he’s not a Clinton and they don’t like it. Liberal elected officials get on TV wearing pink cowboy hats and purple eye shadow up to her eye brows and tell us how silly trumps hair looks. They yell”resist everything trump does!” While ignoring good things he does. And you make me excuses for that...

Something we need to over come to gain R seats in the mid-term elections.


Newt Gingrich: Here's my strategy for keeping a House Republican majority in November. Trump needs to stay on message after SOTU


On Wednesday, I was honored to speak at the Winter Meeting of the Republican National Committee about the how important and impactful the 2018 elections could be for America. Below is an excerpt of my remarks.

Let me thank all of you, particularly those I was just chatting with, for your generosity. I have been active in the Republican Party a fairly long time, longer than the younger people here have been alive. And I want to talk to you from the heart. When Ronna and I talked about coming by, I think it was precisely because I had enough distance to look at these things and to be involved on a number of occasions.

First of all, I thought last night’s State of the Union rivaled anything that Ronald Reagan did. It was just astonishingly effective. President Trump found specific individuals whose stories weren’t just important as wonderful human stories, but they each illustrated a part of the American tapestry in the American culture in a way that reminded all of us America is such a wonderful country. I thought it was a very powerful and very effective speech.

I also have to comment on Ronna and the financial report at the end of the year. She hit the ground running with a very simple model that said, “I’m going to work with the president. I’m going to help the president. How big of a check are you going to write?” And she must have repeated that a hundred thousand times over the past year, and she has been very, very effective.

Now, I came tonight in part because I think the Republican National Committee really matters. I’ll tell you candidly, I think without Reince Priebus and without the Republican National Committee, we would not have won in 2016 because we needed all of the extra effort, and we frankly needed Reince desperately holding the party together all through the spring when about a third of the party was certainly eager to commit suicide. And without that kind of effort and without the ground game of the fall, we would have lost. It’s just that simple.

Similarly, I believe the Republican National Committee under Ronna’s leadership is going to be decisive this year. So, I’m going to talk just a couple of minutes about where we’re at because I think it’s really important. And I know those of you who are on the committee are going to take it seriously and take it as a personal responsibility, and those of you who are friends of the committee are even going to take it seriously.

I’m going to start with a very simple model. How many of you noticed [during the State of the Union] that Nancy Pelosi wasn’t happy? Now, I have a ground rule, when the president won, I said to every conservative I would talk to, every time you start to get mad at Donald J. Trump, I want you to close your eyes and think: President Hillary Clinton. Well, I would say to every one of you, every day this year that you do not work for a Republican majority, I want you to think about Speaker Nancy Pelosi. I think this is a very grave threat.

I’m going to be very direct, and I hope it doesn’t get misinterpreted. I do not believe the traditional Republican Party could win this fall. And the fact is we’re at an edge of a wave election, and if we end up with a wave election on their side, you can’t raise enough money to win normal races against that kind of wave.

We saw it in 1994 when we did it. We saw it in 2006 when the Democrats did it. We saw it in 2010 when John Boehner came up with a very simple model: Where are the jobs?

If you start getting that kind of wave building, it’s very hard to be able to keep control. And our margin is not that big. In the great 62-year period of Democratic dominance of the House, they would start elections with 60-seat majorities. If they lost 25 or 30 seats, their margins would shrink, but they were still in control. We’ve never been in control with that size margin.

For us to maintain Speaker Ryan and the House GOP majority in 2018 there are bold things we have to do.

I’m going to draw a very deliberate distinction. Just so you understand this isn’t just some theory -- get candidate Trump’s speech at Gettysburg in October of 2016, the president’s inaugural address last year, and the State of the Union you just watched Tuesday. Take those three and read carefully what President Trump says.

He is describing an American party that reaches out to every American, that makes the case that America is an idea worth fighting for. He suggests that we have a model for success: the American model of limited government, lower taxes, less red tape, more entrepreneurship, more take-home pay, more local control, which means more local responsibility, and a foundation of rights that come from our Creator.

You take those three speeches, put them together, and look at them. What does that mean? What would a Trump Republican Party be like? We are not yet there. With Ronna’s leadership and the president’s leadership, we can get there. I think by 2020, we will get there.

I think President Trump will get re-elected almost without regard to what happens this fall. But remember, it’s one thing to spend 2019 and 2020 with Speaker Ryan and a Republican House getting things done. It’s another thing to spend 2019 and 2020 in a life and death struggle against Speaker Pelosi and a Democratic House that will automatically want to impeach the president while having every House Committee launch investigations of the administration. They won’t have any idea what they’re impeaching him for and or what they are investigating for and it won’t matter to them. In the majority, House Democrats will spend two years in hostile assaults on the administration.

You may have seen the Fox and Friends interview of the New York University students who they asked on Monday morning, “What did you think of the president’s State of the Union speech?” And these students said things like it was, “Hateful. It was racial language. I can’t believe he said that.” It didn’t even matter that President Trump hadn’t given the State of the Union Address yet. This is the unthinkingly hostile Left we’re dealing with.

What you saw at the State of the Union was the face of hate. I mean when people sit there, and you explain to them that there’s the lowest black unemployment in history, and they can’t applaud. There’s the lowest Hispanic unemployment in history, and they can’t applaud. You’re looking at people so consumed by their passions they can’t think. Those are the people who will be in charge of the House if they win.

So, these next few months are really important, and here are a couple of very simple principles for a Trump Republican Party as opposed to a traditional Republican Party. Now, a Trump party largely grows out of the Reagan party and out of the 1994 Contract with America majority.

First Principle: Go home and take on everyone. Don’t talk about safe seats, not safe seats, all this bologna. When we won control in 1994, we ran against every Democratic candidate except three.

We beat the chairman of Ways and Means of downtown Chicago. We beat the first Speaker of the House to lose since 1862. We beat the chairman of the Judiciary Committee in the Houston suburbs. No Republican consultant would have recommended running against any of them.

We are in a similar situation this year because every Democrat went out idiotically and voted no on the largest tax cut in your lifetime, and they have to go home and explain that.

One example from the State of the Union : We are not tough enough, we’re not fast enough, we don’t think aggressively enough. Last night, they picked somebody to answer the State of the Union, Congressman Joe Kennedy. He was symbolically perfect standing in front of a broken car because the Democrats can’t fix anything.

We should have been asking Kennedy, “How could you vote against tax cuts and job creation? The Ways and Means Committee has analyzed every congressional district in the country. You can go to the Ways and Means Committee website for your district. In Kennedy’s district a median-income family of four got a $5,800 tax cut. Now we should be all over him. How can he vote to take $5,800 away from a family of four in his district to send it to Washington bureaucrats? We should have used every social media tool so people watching his response were waiting for him to answer for his vote.

Now, he’ll give you a left-wing answer. If you’re one of the families, how many have gone to find families of four and say, “What can you do with $5,800 per year, which is, by the way, $58,000 over 10 years? Do you think it’s better spent by a bureaucrat or you?” I think we should take on every single member of the black caucus. Again, every single district in America, it turns out, has a net tax cut. Every single one of the Democratic members of the Black caucus voted against the tax cut for their own people and could not applaud the lowest Black unemployment in history.

Now, you can’t get much further distance from the traditional Republican consultants. but the truth is, too many Republicans don’t have the nerve to go out to new neighborhoods and new voters. They talk in cost-benefit terms. Well, that’s not going to work if we are serious about growing a stable majority. I lost twice. And if we’d had that cost-benefit attitude toward my district, I’d never have gotten to Congress, and we wouldn’t have taken control in 1994.

We have to have the nerve to go nose-to-nose.

Second, don’t complain about the news media. The news media is a fact. The news media is the offensive wing of the other team. They are not the problem. They are a fact. What we do about them is the problem. So, we have to design a campaign plan, and we have to train our candidates assuming the worst about the news media. Whenever you interact with the news media you should assume you’re going into a war zone. You should plan to take the host head on and challenge their assumptions.

I read the transcripts every Sunday. You would be amazed how many of our folks are too slow, too untrained, and don’t know what they’re talking about. So, they walk in as though George Stephanopoulos is neutral. I mean not only was he the Clinton press secretary, who gave $75,000 to the Clinton Foundation, and we allowed him to chair a presidential debate in 2012. Now, you at least have a minimum rule. Nobody who’s completely on the Left is going to get to chair anything for this party’s good future.

Point One: Compete everywhere.
Point Two: Design strategies that win despite the news media because you overmatch them.
Point Three: We have to have the courage to fight. You have to be prepared. When someone gets up, the junior senator from New York, and says, “You know, if you talk about chain migration, it’s racist.” But we need to say: “You must be losing this debate on the facts so badly that you’re now reduced to scream ‘racism,’ which is, by the way, what you scream about virtually anything, unless of course that’s homophobia or something else.” The Left has no arguments left except to yell nasty names.

And we have to go nose-to-nose with them to knock them down mentally and psychologically. It’s very important for us to understand this is a fight. We are in a cultural civil war with people who despise us. There’s no neutrality in there. And that’s why they dislike Trump so much, because Trump has the nerve to talk about MS-13 because they can’t answer it. The more he is right, the more enraged they are.

If you’re a left-wing Democrat and totally for open borders, you can’t actually go up and say, “Well, I think it’s okay for a few hundred MS-13 folks to come in.” You just can’t. So, then you get furious at Trump because he’s found the angle of attack you can’t defend.

I would say to every candidate: study Trump. Trump is one of the greatest articulators I have ever seen. He understands fighting. He likes to fight, and he is prepared to figure out how to go at you at an angle you can’t defend. And that’s what we have to do for this whole campaign starting now.

The most useful book I have read to better understand this year is Karl Rove’s book on "The Triumph of William McKinley." That 1896 campaign may sound obscure, but it relates directly to our challenge.

McKinley was faced with the great charismatic Democratic leader, the youngest major party nominee in history at 36 years old, William Jennings Bryan. Bryan is such a great passionate articulator of demagogic populism and was so influential in the Democratic Party for two generations (nominated three times for president) that Elizabeth Warren is his direct emotional descendant.

He literally – and I mean this as a tribute to Bryan – h e imprinted the Democratic Party with a negative, anti-elite, anti-city, anti-modernity kind of populism, a populism of anger. He talks about mankind being crucified on a cross of gold. He says at one point that he wants grass to grow on the streets of the cities. McKinley realizes he’s going to lose the election unless he breaks the heart of Bryan’s argument. McKinley understood in 1896 what Margaret Thatcher said in the 1970’s when she warned: “First you win the argument. Then you win the election.” And so, McKinley created the most thorough educational campaign in American history.

They printed 18 brochures for every American. That’s a scale of organization that’s unimaginable. And Karl, who’s a great professional, really walks you through it. The first part of the book most of it you won’t find all that exciting, because it’s about how he got the nomination – although it’s very useful. But the second half of the book is amazing and is the campaign we need this year.

We need a campaign that is going right at the philosophical basis of the modern Democratic Party. We need a campaign, for example, to say, “How many Americans do you think want to abolish the Medicare trust fund?” That’s actually what’s in the Sanders bill that could create national health care. You know, to the average 65-year-old or 55-year-old say, “Hi, would you like to help Sanders in abolishing the Medicare Trust Fund? All it requires is that you trust politicians.”

You know, you could probably win that argument and keep them on defense all the time. So, I think it’s tremendously important. I think what Ronna is doing is extraordinarily important. She needs your help and every state in the country. I need your help talking to every incumbent and every candidate, and you need to understand, this is where we’re going. This is what we have to accomplish, and my last point is this: 50 percent should be spent on the tax cuts.

I mean literally, 50 percent of our effort should be explaining the tax cuts and their impact at multiple levels. At a cultural level, it puts America back on the road to being an entrepreneurial society. At the large economy level, it’s going to lead to growth – and at a personal level. When I talk about the example of reaching out to everyone, would you like to guess among all the Wal-Mart employees who just got bonuses what percent are African American? What percent are Latino?

Now today, they have no mechanism to say to them: “By the way, that was a Republican idea that just got money in your pocket.” That’s our job. It’s not their fault they don’t know it, and it’s certainly not NBC News’ fault. NBC News is the other team. So, we have to learn, and I would urge all of you to think about this literally. Fifty percent of our effort from now to election day should be very simple. We want you to have money in your pocket, a better job, a greater future, more money in your 401k for retirement. They want all of that money for their bureaucrats and their giveaways. You pick which team you like. You think it’s better to have Washington spend your money, you have a great party: The Democrats. If you think it’s better for you to have the money, you have a great party, the Republicans. The two parties are this far apart.

As RNC members, if you’ll do your job, if you’ll help convince every single candidate and every single incumbent, we’ll change history just the way Trump changed history.

So, when reporters and analysts say, “Well, it’s the first term off-year election. The average losses are X.” My first thought is, “How do you think President Clinton is doing?”

The truth is we are led by somebody who breaks the records. We ought to join in this fall to break the record, and next year if we have won control of the House altogether – if we’ve picked up six or eight Senate seats – President Trump and the Republicans will be able to say, as Ronald Reagan used to say, “You ain’t seen nothing yet.”
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In every SOTU Obama gave, the republicans stood for the flag, they clapped for any mention of the military and service personnel, and not one of them walked out of the room when either side chanted “USA”.
When did they NOT clap? When Obama told us all how great the ACA would be, how our debt was ok because we were doing great things with the money, and how we should open our arms to immigration.
Yelling? No. Booing? Yes.
Democrats sat and did not clap for a Child that used his own money to place American flags in veterans graves. They sat and did not clap when trump told the parents of dead teenagers killed by M-13 members here illegally that he would deport them. Pick your topic they sat about. We will discuss it.

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S...M...F...H...! The horse is dead already. Nothing, and I mean nothing will EVER change (for the good that is).

Here is my quick take and rundown of politicians today; to sound more “for the people” the democrat party started calling themselves the democratic party. Fact, there is nothing democratic about them!

Today, in general, the democrat party is now Socialist/Communist and the Republican Party is no more conservative that the Dems of my childhood. Any way you look at it, life in the US has changed and it will never be the same.


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Why do yall throw around the word liberal as if it is derogatory?
The term "liberal" is sorely misplaced when it comes to the "Left" (most modern democrats).

The proper label should be, Radical Far Left Progressive.

"Progressive", yet another word hijacked by the left. Guess they succeeded in sullying the word liberal, so it was time to move on.

'Liberals' are like a virus.
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The term "liberal" is sorely misplaced when it comes to the "Left" (most modern democrats).

The proper label should be, Radical Far Left Progressive.

"Progressive", yet another word hijacked by the left. Guess they succeeded in sullying the word liberal, so it was time to move on.

'Liberals' are like a virus.
Yeah but over time those goal posts are shifted.
What was "far left" 30 years ago is status quo today.
What makes someone a "liberal" or "left"?

I'd there ten box checklist on being a "conservative"?
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S...M...F...H...! The horse is dead already. Nothing, and I mean nothing will EVER change (for the good that is).

Here is my quick take and rundown of politicians today; to sound more “for the people” the democrat party started calling themselves the democratic party. Fact, there is nothing democratic about them!

Today, in general, the democrat party is now Socialist/Communist and the Republican Party is no more conservative that the Dems of my childhood. Any way you look at it, life in the US has changed and it will never be the same.


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True dat. The Sam Rayburn days are long gone. Sam was from my home town and er body in my family knew Mr Sam personally including me as a small kid who got to shake his hand a few times. If Sam were alive today he **** sure wouldn't be a liberal.
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Yeah but over time those goal posts are shifted.

What was "far left" 30 years ago is status quo today.

What makes someone a "liberal" or "left"?



I'd there ten box checklist on being a "conservative"?


Everything changes. You want to dwell on it, do so. Talking about liberal policy in the past is history. We are dealing with liberals NOW. The label NOW is a word to describe liberal leftist democrats with socialistic agendas. 50 years from now, it will be something else. I’m sure someone like you will bring up the subject, and tell someone like me, and that someone will tell you what I just said.
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You come across with an air of superiority about you like you need to teach us something on every topic that comes up. Pretty much a know it all on any subject.
Only thing I'm certain about on here is OBAMACARE & financial/analytics side of pharma industry.
I don't get into if you should hang your deer antlers up or antlers down.
I don't wade into the HF discussions.
I don't talk about cattle stocking rates.

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Only thing I'm certain about on here is OBAMACARE & financial/analytics side of pharma industry.
I don't get into if you should hang your deer antlers up or antlers down.
I don't wade into the HF discussions.
I don't talk about cattle stocking rates.

What I know about is healthcare stats and the financials that are made with most of them.

I also know a little something about stroking small block Mopar engines and also flying single engine aircraft but this is not the place for that.
Your mirror is a little distorted.
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