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Old 02-24-2017, 11:29 AM   #1
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Default Laying Stones for a Wood Stove Hearth

I'm going to tackle this next weekend at the deer camp. Got a pretty good idea how to get it done, but any pointers are appreciated.

Suggestions on Mortar/Sand ratio?

Mix it pretty dry or wet?

Should I laydown a layer of mud before I set the stones down?

How about the stones that I'm laying on the wall? Mortar down first?
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:31 AM   #2
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Definitely lay down a layer of mud to set the stones in.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:33 AM   #3
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Here is where it's going.

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Old 02-24-2017, 11:33 AM   #4
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and from some old mason guys...get the stones wet...don't know why..but this is what they say...
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:43 AM   #5
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Thanks guys! Keep the pointers coming.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:46 AM   #6
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3:1 sand to cement ratio. Certainly trowel bed of mortar first. Buy a wire brush and brush joints after mortar sets up. Can also use a squirt bottle of water and mist it a couple times to slow setting.
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Oh, forgot slump. Like ****ography, you will know it when you see it. Not too stiff and not too soupy. Will want it thin enough that is spreads well under weight of stone when you settle it. It it is running off your trowel it is too wet.

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and from some old mason guys...get the stones wet...don't know why..but this is what they say...
Usually, so the mortar interface moisture isn't sucked into the porosity of the dry stone.
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Old 02-24-2017, 12:00 PM   #9
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and from some old mason guys...get the stones wet...don't know why..but this is what they say...
I am not a mason but have dabbled a bit with it, I believe you wet the stones because they can act as a sponge and will draw moisture/water from the mortar. Wetting them some helps to prevent this and will they have better adhesion. I have been wrong before though..........
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Old 02-24-2017, 12:25 PM   #10
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15 shovels full of sand to one bag of mortar. Don't mix it too wet. You can always add more water.
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:01 PM   #11
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3:1 sand to cement ratio. Certainly trowel bed of mortar first. Buy a wire brush and brush joints after mortar sets up. Can also use a squirt bottle of water and mist it a couple times to slow setting.
This right here. I'm so **** slow I mix it in a 5 gallon bucket so I can take my time and not have a mixer full of mud settin up.

I don't know about wetting the stone...The guys I know go to great lengths to keep it dry, that absorption is what bonds the mortar to the stone.
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:06 PM   #12
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This right here. I'm so **** slow I mix it in a 5 gallon bucket so I can take my time and not have a mixer full of mud settin up.

I don't know about wetting the stone...The guys I know go to great lengths to keep it dry, that absorption is what bonds the mortar to the stone.
Good idea on mixing a little at a time in a five gallon bucket.
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:16 PM   #13
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You can save a bunch of time with one of these in a drill.



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Old 02-24-2017, 01:36 PM   #14
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:49 AM   #15
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:34 AM   #16
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I have done this before and I used premix mortar mix in a bag and use plenty of wall ties.
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Old 02-28-2017, 03:51 PM   #17
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What type of Mortar? Type S? I'm guessing I can buy the sand in bags as well?
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Old 02-28-2017, 08:09 PM   #18
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You don't need type s for that. Type N will do fine.


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Old 03-03-2017, 12:48 PM   #19
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Slow going, but it's going.

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Old 03-03-2017, 10:03 PM   #20
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Made a change. Not going as high with stone.





Getting the trim done as well





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Old 03-03-2017, 10:45 PM   #21
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Looks great
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Old 03-04-2017, 09:59 AM   #22
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Old 03-04-2017, 10:09 AM   #23
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Love this!!! Can I come hang out there with you?


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Old 03-04-2017, 10:36 AM   #24
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Looks awesome.
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Old 03-04-2017, 11:03 AM   #25
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That cabin really starting to shape up nicely Stolle!

Looking forward to the end result on the rock lay-n.
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Old 03-04-2017, 05:16 PM   #26
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Awesome work! Good luck!
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Old 03-04-2017, 06:37 PM   #27
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Old 03-04-2017, 07:22 PM   #28
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Looks good. Shoot, if I knew you were going with grey mortar I would have told you to go the premix route.
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Old 03-04-2017, 07:24 PM   #29
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Don't go getting all stone shy on us. Lay it up a little higher where your stove is going and put some on that bathroom wall too!!
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Old 03-05-2017, 01:02 AM   #30
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Don't go getting all stone shy on us. Lay it up a little higher where your stove is going and put some on that bathroom wall too!!


I think we/me are done for now

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Old 03-05-2017, 01:04 AM   #31
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Old 03-05-2017, 01:05 AM   #32
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Look at this counter top!

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Old 03-05-2017, 08:56 AM   #33
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Nice work!
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Old 03-05-2017, 07:23 PM   #34
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Not a **** thing wrong with that.

You could use another lamp in there though..


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Old 03-06-2017, 11:11 AM   #35
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Looks like you have made it into a great place to hang out. Great job!
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:21 PM   #36
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You could use another lamp in there though..


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Old 03-06-2017, 02:23 PM   #37
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Looks like you have made it into a great place to hang out. Great job!


Thanks. Now it's too nice for storing all our crap. Time to get a container for storage of tools, ranger and golf cart.
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Old 10-24-2017, 03:53 PM   #38
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Looks like a nice place!
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:58 PM   #39
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Nice work! May be a little late, but wash stone before cementing. Cement won't stick to stone if dirty
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I think we/me are done for now



Looks awesome!

Be sure and feel how warm that tin gets for the first few fires, my stove heated the wall higher than that to the point that it melted some wiring and a light switch. I had to move switch to the other side of the door and raise the heat barrier.
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Old 10-25-2017, 07:58 AM   #41
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Nice work! May be a little late, but wash stone before cementing. Cement won't stick to stone if dirty

Yep just a tad bit late. I have not noticed any places that are pulling away from the rock.

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Looks awesome!

Be sure and feel how warm that tin gets for the first few fires, my stove heated the wall higher than that to the point that it melted some wiring and a light switch. I had to move switch to the other side of the door and raise the heat barrier.
From what I remember the only part of the wall that got hot was behind the stove before I put the rock and tin up. I'll keep an eye on it next cold snap. Luckily we do not have any electrical in that corner.
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Old 10-25-2017, 08:39 AM   #42
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Awesome cabin. I like it
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Man that looks pretty dang good to me. I like the stones and the tin.

Good job!
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Old 10-26-2017, 08:19 PM   #44
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Man that looks pretty dang good to me. I like the stones and the tin.

Good job!


Thanks! Hopefully we will get some cold weather so we can fire up the wood stove.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:43 AM   #45
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Awesome
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:14 AM   #46
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Mount a small fan near the corner to blow the heat from the stove pipe into the middle of the room, makes a huge difference in temp drop from across the room. Just a suggestion.
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