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Old 04-18-2017, 07:12 PM   #1
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Default Shooting left but it's consistent.

Noticed over the last couple weeks that I'm shooting 4-6 inches left of what I aim at at 10 yards. I figured out I was pulling some "Kentucky windage" after my first shot to bring my second back to POA. Today I just aimed at the same spot and kept shooting. I'm off. Either its a bow issue, a shaft issue or I'm not looking where the arrow is actually going to go. I'm guessing the latter. Shafts are as tuned as I can make them to the bow. I haven't tried a bareshaft yet to see but I'm guessing it'll be the same. 600 spine GT Trads out of a 45lb recurve. I have noticed that if I pull a "looky loo" and drop my bow hand before the arrow impacts it goes farther left. Back tension is there so I've got that working for me. Might not be important but I draw about an inch past my anchor and then settle forward for the shot, don't know where I picked that up but it's comfortable and repeatable and it keeps me from hitting my face with the string.

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Old 04-18-2017, 07:14 PM   #2
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Aim right???



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Old 04-18-2017, 07:24 PM   #3
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LOL! When I posted that I fully thought either you CRM or SwampRabbit would tell me to aim right.


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Old 04-18-2017, 07:25 PM   #4
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Try adjusting your brace height 3 Twist by their clockwise or counterclockwise

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Old 04-18-2017, 07:26 PM   #5
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Drawing the way you are doing tends to cause a lot of folks go collapse on the shot. I would break the pulling past anchor habit and see where you are at.

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Old 04-18-2017, 07:27 PM   #6
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Honestly when I've had this sort of issue I have done that and then hit to the right. Form issue that corrected itself.

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Old 04-18-2017, 08:39 PM   #7
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Where is your elbow at in relation to the arrow? Straight line? When I start shooting left it means that I'm being lazy and not bringing my elbow back enough. That allows the string to be just a bit away from the face. I can overcompensate by pulling my elbow back too far and start shooting to the right.
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Old 04-18-2017, 09:48 PM   #8
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I overdraw and settle into anchor as well. When I start shooting left it's either back tension/follow through, overextending my draw length, or grip.
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:07 PM   #9
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When my fistmele creeps I shoot left. In fact, every time I don't shoot how I want is because my fistmele. It's been a long time since I called it that. Too much to drink tonight!
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:09 PM   #10
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Thank goodness for google.
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:16 PM   #11
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Thank goodness for google.
Hahaha! That's an old *** term but that's what I learned!
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:17 PM   #12
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I found out recently it can definitely mess you up.
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:34 PM   #13
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Bow arm might be too stiff slight bend in your elbow , should shift it over.
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:14 PM   #14
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this started happening to me and I canted the bow a bit and fixed it right up
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:41 AM   #15
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A little cant on the bow might help, I started to have that problem when moved to 3 under and realized by taking a picture of myself at anchoring that my arrow wasn't under my dominant eye, did a small adjustment on my side and the problem went away
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:57 AM   #16
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LOL! When I posted that I fully thought either you CRM or SwampRabbit would tell me to aim right.


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Not me. Aiming right won't help unless you like your new form.

I would say check your stance. You may have closed it if you had been shooting open.

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Old 04-19-2017, 08:19 AM   #17
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Check your brace (or fistmele as Pigthumper went old school and called it). Strings creep and it can change and if it does, it will change your point of impact.
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Old 04-19-2017, 08:20 AM   #18
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BTW, there are several form issues that can cause left hits. Change in stance, grip, anchor, and torque on the string. When I slow down and revisit the shot sequence, it usually corrects itself.

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Old 04-19-2017, 09:07 AM   #19
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Not me. Aiming right won't help unless you like your new form.

I would say check your stance. You may have closed it if you had been shooting open.

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That's what showed me what I was doing off. When I focused really hard on hitting that spot to the right I realized what my issue was.

When my brace height was off I should have known by the erratic arrow flight.

And as pointed out creeping does tend to move my shots left.



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Old 04-19-2017, 11:11 AM   #20
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That's what showed me what I was doing off. When I focused really hard on hitting that spot to the right I realized what my issue was.



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I am not really following what you are trying to say here. But that doesn't really matter. Everybody is unique.

My point to Junkers was that I wouldn't have said what he thought I might say and that instead, I would tell a person to go through thier shot sequence, starting with stance to see if something changed. When I see a pattern change in my groups (vs just widening) then I look at my shot sequence and not focus on forcing my arrow to go some other place than I would naturally look.

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Old 04-19-2017, 11:14 AM   #21
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My original post was in jest. But what I believe help me was when I focused harder on the spot to the right and hit it I realized my release and follow through was different from when the shots hit left.

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Old 04-19-2017, 12:01 PM   #22
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If this is a phenomenon, that came on gradually from a one time "nothing wrong" situation, it can only be one of, or a combination of two things.

(1) Your form has changed somehow
(2) Your equipment has changed somehow

I would check the brace height first. If that's not the problem, then I would do some close study of my grip, then go from there if no corrections could, or needed to be made in those areas.

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Old 04-19-2017, 06:51 PM   #23
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I love having you folks here to ask for help. I checked the BH and it was down a 1/4" so I twisted it back up. Went outside and videoed my form. String hand elbow was dropping and I was kind of hunched up on release. Also had fallen back into a static release, I swear back tension is the bane of my existence. Shooting is better and when I can focus on compressing my back my release is crisp again.

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Old 04-19-2017, 07:09 PM   #24
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Good deal.

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Old 04-19-2017, 08:31 PM   #25
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It will forever surprise me how much a little something done wrong on my end equates to frustrating results at the target.


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Old 04-19-2017, 08:35 PM   #26
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I'm in that club too Richard. But the frustrations and humiliation only serves to make it sweeter when it actually is working.

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Old 04-19-2017, 08:49 PM   #27
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Glad you got er fixed up! If it were easy, everybody would do it. I try to draw with my back so the compression is there. I used to draw and then compress. That was just one more thing to forget.
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Old 04-19-2017, 09:02 PM   #28
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What's sad is when he posted once about back tension I thought at first he was having cramps.

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