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Old 08-09-2018, 11:37 AM   #1
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I'm not feeding anything and my land is low fence. That combined with the absolute minuscule amount of rain that has fallen and resulting poor forage, I expected this to be a horrible year for antlers. But . . . I recently put out a game cam near the water tank/pond to see what was going, and a week later I had over 500 pictures. Many of which were not so disappointing . . .
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:45 AM   #2
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Very nice! Really like the broadside buck in pic 3.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:49 AM   #3
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Heck ya!
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:50 AM   #4
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Heck yeah some nice bucks for sure
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Old 08-09-2018, 12:00 PM   #5
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Now you just need a spotlight.

Nice deer.
I'm still wishing for a nice surprise on camera at my place.
I've only seen the poor antlers you were expecting so far.
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Old 08-09-2018, 12:31 PM   #6
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Nice Bucks, good luck!
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Old 08-09-2018, 12:48 PM   #7
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They look to be in great shape.
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Old 08-09-2018, 01:07 PM   #8
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Wow thats awesome... hope our place gets some of those haha
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Old 08-09-2018, 01:10 PM   #9
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That water tank/pond is pulling in deer from who knows how far away. Hence the 500+ pictures in one week. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these deer are coming off of properties that are feeding them. But none of them have looked emaciated, so I don't think my area is faring as bad as some other regions of Texas
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Old 08-09-2018, 01:12 PM   #10
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Gooderns
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:04 PM   #11
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Score!!!
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:06 PM   #12
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Not so disappointing would be an understatement.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:10 PM   #13
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that is a heck of a surprise!
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:12 PM   #14
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Your going to have a busy fall!!! Nice
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:13 PM   #15
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Wonder if you had a constant food source. I will bring the corn and a couple of feeders for a buck tag, your call!
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:14 PM   #16
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Very nice! Really like the broadside buck in pic 3.
I agree and the one in the foreground would be on the "If you shoot this deer you get a full power kick to the sack" list.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:27 PM   #17
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Those are very nice surprises!
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:31 PM   #18
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Yes sir.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:44 PM   #19
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I guess that's in Medina County? I used to hunt that area near the reservoir. Never saw anything nearly that good there.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:49 PM   #20
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They're amazing animals, sometimes I think they live off the dew in the morning and rocks for breakfast
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:51 PM   #21
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Old 08-09-2018, 03:20 PM   #22
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I guess that's in Medina County? I used to hunt that area near the reservoir. Never saw anything nearly that good there.
Yes, Medina county. I'm sure it's due to having just about the most ideal neighbors I could have asked for. Large properties, only two touch the circumference of my border. One neighbor almost never shot anything except hogs, and the other doesn't over harvest. I usually only shoot one per year. My land has good cover and a lot of browse variety. No cows. Put a hog proof fence around the tank/pond (which is one of the only water sources in a square mile) to keep hogs out and their population is only a fifth of what it used to be. Presence of deer rebounded in the couple of years that followed. Averages about 26/27" of rainfall per year.

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Old 08-09-2018, 03:44 PM   #23
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:58 PM   #24
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Very nice bucks! I’d run an arrow through any of those dudes.
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:00 PM   #25
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:04 PM   #26
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Lookin good, good luck
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:18 PM   #27
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Nice bucks. Good luck
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:38 PM   #28
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Nothing about this sucks for sure. Congrats on some nice deer....hopefully they will hang around for you.
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:40 PM   #29
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Looks like you have good neighbors! Enjoy and return the favor when you can. We feed a lot of protein, do food plots and pass on young and middle aged bucks on our place. We have gotten to know a few neighbors pretty good. We have somewhat of the same outlook on deer harvest and share photos of a lot of the same deer. For some reason inferior bucks have become top priority to harvest. Although the kids rules are not as strict, especially on first bucks. We have some pretty decent deer running around for our area. At this point our culls are hunted pretty hard and darned hard to harvest, but the deer we wan/t to leave are regulars. Good luck this season!
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:31 PM   #30
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Nice ones
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:34 PM   #31
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Need another year }:O
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:55 PM   #32
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Very cool surprise!
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:32 PM   #33
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:33 PM   #34
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That is awesome. I would clear my calendar and spend some serious time out there.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:51 PM   #35
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Got some nice bucks!

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Old 08-10-2018, 07:59 PM   #36
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Awesome surprise! I also live on a small low fence property. I don't hardly ever see bucks until the rut is about to start. Good luck this coming season!
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:20 PM   #37
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:20 PM   #38
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Will be rooting for some daytime pics! One of them will slip up I bet...
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:36 AM   #39
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Itís so interesting how deer regionally have a specific look. I knew those were Medina County deer immediately. In fact Iíd be willing to bet youíre north of HWY 90. I recently put a camera on our tank and was equally impressed with the activity.

Iím between Hondo and Bandera, low fence, large ranch compared to our neighbors, feed year round protein, 2-3 acre irrigated food plot planted fall and spring, 2 acre stock tank central on ranch. Cotton seed, alfalfa bales, corn etc. We typically only shoot pigs...some culls and a trophy every few years. My neighbors have done well though. Ranch has been in my family for over a century. I run 8-10 cameras year round to know my heard for age and health...and because itís what I love. Over the last 5 yrs Iíve learned a tremendous amount specific to our herd in the area.

To be clear I donít think weíre neighbors, or that we share deer. I will say your story is identical to several of my neighbors. I put my life and a large sum of money into this land for the health of the wildlife and my own fulfillment. Wouldnít change a thing and itís what it is. Just remember to thank your neighbor and or try to return the favor as a gesture especially if you kill a trophy he has likely grown and been watching for the last 5-6 years. Or worse kill a 4 yr old trophy who wasnít quite ripe. As hard as I try to to not get emotionally attached to my deer, its who I am...canít help it. I would assume Iím not alone.

If you like your neighbor and want him to like you, try to become an extension of his ranch and plan as much as you can within your means. About this time each year get on the same page with him and know the hit list, cull list and by God donít shoot list. Stay in touch through the season and chat often after hunts to recap what you saw or shot etc. You can trust that he wants to know.

They can get bigger in our parts, but you definitely have a few good men there. You get what you give in every way. Keep us posted.

Yes, yes...a high fence, one of these days soon.
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:01 AM   #40
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Looks like you have good neighbors! Enjoy and return the favor when you can. We feed a lot of protein, do food plots and pass on young and middle aged bucks on our place. We have gotten to know a few neighbors pretty good. We have somewhat of the same outlook on deer harvest and share photos of a lot of the same deer. For some reason inferior bucks have become top priority to harvest. Although the kids rules are not as strict, especially on first bucks. We have some pretty decent deer running around for our area. At this point our culls are hunted pretty hard and darned hard to harvest, but the deer we wan/t to leave are regulars. Good luck this season!


Hydro, we have a very similar experience and intent except my neighbors leave the feeding and picture taking up to me. Are you in Medina County? Iím debating the first buck rule. Looking back at our harvest pics those first bucks were cream of the crop 2 1/2 yr old deer. Iíd so much rather see it be a cull versus a perfectly symmetrical 8 pt with potential.

As of this year Iím thinking weíre going to change our approach on young inferior deer, for lack of a better term. I donít think theyíre inferior, but they lack the genetics I prefer. Now after 5 years at the helm watching these bucks develop year after year, I have yet to see an inferior buck turn into something that can compare to a clean typical buck at 5-6 yrs old. And to your point the culls are **** hard to harvest especially as they mature. Iíd rather cull them while we can. I am familiar with the Kleberg research about the effectiveness of culling especially low fence, but I feel like I know my herd well enough and who returns each year. We can compare notes in 5 years with our experiment.




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Old 08-11-2018, 10:28 AM   #41
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I looked at your pics again and those are fantastic animals...I think better than my current senior class this year. That would also lead me to believe your not to far north. If you donít mind, where are you located?

This is the most Iíve posted, my apologies. The Medina County thing and your story got my attention. Thanks


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Old 08-11-2018, 05:14 PM   #42
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I looked at your pics again and those are fantastic animals...I think better than my current senior class this year. That would also lead me to believe your not to far north. If you don’t mind, where are you located?
This is the most I’ve posted, my apologies. The Medina County thing and your story got my attention. Thanks

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Definitely no need to apologize. I'm NW of Hondo. Only one of my two bordering neighbors feeds protein, etc and judging from your description I don't think you are them. But that sounds like a great piece of property you have. Hopefully your neighbors aren't greedy and don't take advantage/abuse all of your hard and expensive work

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Old 08-12-2018, 12:28 AM   #43
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We are about 8 counties North of Medina County. Story is the same, but getting buy in from the neighbors is key to increase our chances. We had two deer with droptines that were passed on this year between us and the neighbors. Trail cam photos were shared and discussed. No doubt that could of went South, but we decided to try and establish trust. It has worked out so far. Mistakes will be made, but so far we are discussing specific deer that don't seem to be developing like others. These are becoming very hard to hunt targets once agreed upon. Looking at last year they could of been shot early in the season, but became very elusive as the season progressed. This year the kids and neighbors are ready to put their tags on easily identifiable deer, whether they are deemed inferior or trophy's. Being low fenced is tough to manage as folks are well aware of, but we are trying. I will say one neighbor was looking for someone with like minded management principles. Turns out his candle was relit so to speak. We now work with each other on food plot locations, planting and water sources on our adjoining properties. Another neighbor doesn't want to sink much money into feeding, but he is a good guy and only wants to shoot one young inferior buck deer to eat. His wife won't let him shoot does. Our agreement with him is we will shoot does as needed and won't tell his wife. Its not all low fenced rose's we have two neighbors on one side of us that substance hunt. Nothing we can do about that other than worry about the management practices we have put in place as far from possible from them. During the rut the bucks move a lot....and it is what it is....sometimes we are the recipients of a good buck we have never seen or fed....that we know of.
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Old 08-12-2018, 05:33 AM   #44
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That is awesome. Looks like you have some good genetics running around.
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Old 08-12-2018, 01:57 PM   #45
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You should start a thread, ďItís not always Low Fence RosesĒ. It sounds like you and your neighbors are well ahead of us. This year my goal is to expand my network of neighbors to the next ring of ranches. Every year throughout the summer our protein, plots and water pulls in a lot of neighboring bucks. About the time they shed velvet they disperse back to their home turf for the rut. Iím curious where and how far these guys go and more importantly Iíd like to know if harvested mainly to confirm age.

Iíve been considering organizing a ďCooperativeĒ meeting /BBQ for an in person meet and great to ease everyone into the idea of a semi/ centralized plan. I think that could be very effective and at a minimum friends are good especially when weíre operating in a very remote area. Weíre your efforts organized or were they calls and fence line chats?


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Old 08-12-2018, 09:24 PM   #46
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Fence line chats started the process. Then invites for seafood boils and fish fry's. We try to do one a year were neighbors are invited over. Two of our adjoining neighbors keep a good eye on our place for us.
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