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Old 04-14-2014, 04:51 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by elgato View Post
I use a no till drill directly thru the rye thatch. Still experimenting with this as the thatch can be quite thick. Yesterday I experimented raising the bush hog 5-6" high. Seemed to smooth out the thatch better and I'm not worried about stubble height.Last yr I had no problems but didnt plant the rye as thick as this year.

I've used Alyce clover for years mostly mixed with Joint vetch. They are very compatible though like slightly different soil conditions. Deer clearly prefer the vetch over Alyce but consume both. Both are planted in the spring and in La. if big enough field planted will drop seed which resprouts the following spring. I had a vetch field reseed for 15 yrs before just this fall reworked to plant anew this spring. Of the two I prefer vetch. Lastly both Alyce and vetch have great late summer early fall growth and tend to be where deer are concentrated after the brutal La. summers.

I love Durano. Have planted both Durano and white dutch. Unequivocally Durano does better here. I usually plant Durano with a red clover mix in fall. By year 2 the Durano has taken over. Both are fall planted clovers with different growth characteristics than Alyce or vetch. I'm planting the vetch/Alyce combo in to Crimson as it will have seeded out by early May dieing shortly and the combo will grow thru the thatch.

If I had to choose between Alyce or clover Durano would be unquestioned option. One value to vetch or Alyce over clover is it sometimes can be more available late summer in droughty conditions if clover goes dormant.
I don't own a drill so I'm trying a new method of planting this year by just broadcasting cow peas and milo into the standing Rye and then mowing over it. Some guys on the QDMA site have had great success planting small seeds like this but haven't tried cow peas. I know I will have to double the seeding rate but I think it will work.

I love Durana as well. This is my third season with it and the deer absolutely love it. It goes dormant about mid-June if we get no rain but starts popping out again in Sept when it rains and cools off. I did try some Whitetail Institute white clover last year and its been impressive too but haven't gone through a summer with it yet.
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