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Old 08-16-2019, 11:27 AM   #1
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So got in on the second draw for sep 17-18 to try and harvest a gator. Anyone have any tips or pointers to help a rookie make the most of my 1.5 days on the water.

Will most likely hit the marshes in my kayak since I'm not sure ill be able to get my hands on a boat by then, and I'm gonna rely on a line set to catch one because the thought of arrowing a gator from my kayak gives me the willies a little
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Old 08-16-2019, 11:36 AM   #2
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I would call the WMA to get advice about trying to use a kayak. They might just run you out to set a line in one of their boats.
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Old 08-16-2019, 11:42 AM   #3
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We had engine issues the first time we went. We ended up getting it running, but they told us if we didn't, they had a place we drive/walk to and set lines off the bank.

But yeah, I'd call down there and talk to them. Not sure I'd even want to attempt that in a yak.
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Old 08-16-2019, 11:51 AM   #4
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A yak is doable but not ideal. We took one out of a little 12' narrow Jon boat once. It is a lot easier with two people. And a bigger boat would be better. They don't act like on swamp people and thrash around unless you jerk them around. If they have a place to walk and set a line from the bank that is really easy as we have done that too.
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:08 PM   #5
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I have hunted it twice with a large Jon boat, and would recommend calling them if you are set on a yak . A yak just doesn’t seem logical enough for hauling gear and a gator after harvest
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What about 2 yaks screwed together with a sheet of 3/4" plywood. It'd be like a poor boy gator toon.
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:33 PM   #7
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Please video yourself getting that 10 foot gator in your yak.
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:06 PM   #8
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I think it says specifically no yaks on the hunt description page... best bet is to go down a bit early and see if u can't team up wit someone
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:25 PM   #9
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well if it says no yaks you might just have to go with a standup paddle board instead.
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:25 PM   #10
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From the hunt brochure for JD Murphree:

"Parties with inadequate or unsafe boats or equipment are not guaranteed a hunt." There is no mention specifically about kayaks.
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:34 PM   #11
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What a waste of tag
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:37 PM   #12
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I would call the WMA to get advice about trying to use a kayak. They might just run you out to set a line in one of their boats.
Ya I called already and they say there a few folks every year successful from and yak, and even a have had a couple people show up with inflatables
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:39 PM   #13
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Please video yourself getting that 10 foot gator in your yak.
Thats kind of where im at now with it, I have a 13' yak that will be able to haul everything I need in and out if successful. Im loving the thought of that challenge to be honest.
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:40 PM   #14
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"Parties with inadequate or unsafe boats or equipment are not guaranteed a hunt." There is no mention specifically about kayaks.
Ya I was worried when I read that...called and said theyd absolutely let me hunt and that they'd even work with me to get one of the closer compartments so I would have to paddle too far
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:42 PM   #15
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Good to know, what kind of yak you got?

Please keep us updated, I'm seriously looking forward to the gator draped over a kayak pics!
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:45 PM   #17
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Ya I was worried when I read that...called and said theyd absolutely let me hunt and that they'd even work with me to get one of the closer compartments so I would have to paddle too far
Good deal. I know a couple years before we went on our first trip down there, a kid caught a 13 footer in the main waters right by the headquarters. I would guess they might put you in Unit 2, which is like the first unit once get into WMA. They put us there due to our engine issues, and we went 2 for 2.
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Old 08-16-2019, 02:00 PM   #18
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Old 08-16-2019, 03:22 PM   #19
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Our tags are for the first hunt. I had a jon boat located to have him flake out. Got another lined up yesterday. No way I'd try in a kayak

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Old 08-16-2019, 03:53 PM   #20
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Our tags are for the first hunt. I had a jon boat located to have him flake out. Got another lined up yesterday. No way I'd try in a kayak

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Im honestly not nervous at all, it cant be any more nerve-racking than BTB fishing at the rigs with a kayak that always seems freakier to me.
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Good luck. We will be there the 11th and 12th. We are first timers as well but looking forward to the challenge.
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I'm gonna rely on a line set to catch one because the thought of arrowing a gator from my kayak gives me the willies a little
It's really not a big deal. I harvested a 9'6" gator with archery gear a couple years ago while standing in the reeds in 2-3' of water. I located a gator I wanted while glassing downstream and had my Dad drop me off on the bank about 150 yards from him. I poured some rotten chicken juice out and threw a chicken quarters in top of a log hanging over he water. I then setup 10 yards from the bait standing in the water with a small opening to shoot through when he came by.



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Old 08-19-2019, 07:41 AM   #23
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It's really not a big deal. I harvested a 9'6" gator with archery gear a couple years ago while standing in the reeds in 2-3' of water. I located a gator I wanted while glassing downstream and had my Dad drop me off on the bank about 150 yards from him. I poured some rotten chicken juice out and threw a chicken quarters in top of a log hanging over he water. I then setup 10 yards from the bait standing in the water with a small opening to shoot through when he came by.



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Man that sounds awesome, congrats on a hell of a gator. How did he react when you stuck him? and how many arrows did you end up having to put in him?
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I really don't think that if you kill a 9.5'+ gator that you will be able to succesfully get you and it back to where you launched. I gator hunt and kill 25-35 a year, a 9 foot alligator even in my 18 foot surface drive boat shifts a ton of weight. I think anyone that has been around a gator after it has been shot can agree that even though it is "dead" it really isn't dead for at least a couple hours. Couple that with the fact that a gator is essentially a lopsided "noodle", I just see it going bad and that kayak ending tipped over. A 5-6 foot gator would be fine, but if you catch a decent sized one you will experience exactly what I'm explaining I think. I would try to find a boat. If it wasn't during the middle of the work week I'd offer to bring mine and come help. Good luck, the issue isn't setting the line, catching the gator, or really even killing it, it's loading it on the kayak once it's dead and making it back to where you launch with you and it on the kayak.
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I really don't think that if you kill a 9.5'+ gator that you will be able to succesfully get you and it back to where you launched. I gator hunt and kill 25-35 a year, a 9 foot alligator even in my 18 foot surface drive boat shifts a ton of weight. I think anyone that has been around a gator after it has been shot can agree that even though it is "dead" it really isn't dead for at least a couple hours. Couple that with the fact that a gator is essentially a lopsided "noodle", I just see it going bad and that kayak ending tipped over. A 5-6 foot gator would be fine, but if you catch a decent sized one you will experience exactly what I'm explaining I think. I would try to find a boat. If it wasn't during the middle of the work week I'd offer to bring mine and come help. Good luck, the issue isn't setting the line, catching the gator, or really even killing it, it's loading it on the kayak once it's dead and making it back to where you launch with you and it on the kayak.
Oh Ive definitely thought about that, and the TPWD guys that are running the hunt I talked to seemed more than willing to help me out if that ended up being the case.
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Im going to look at a boat this week to take on this hunt. If you had drawn the same days as my wife and I, Id let you roll with us.

Assuming the rig is as described.
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Man that sounds awesome, congrats on a hell of a gator. How did he react when you stuck him? and how many arrows did you end up having to put in him?
I put the initial shot right behind his head and he took off, I admit I was a little nervous that he would come my direction. He headed to the middle of the canal in deeper water. I radioed my Dad to come pick me up and we spotted the float about 100 yards down the canal. If you catch one on hook & line they will float up easily and you just finish them off...nothing like you see on tv. Stick an arrow in one first and when they come to the boat it is exactly like you see on Swamp People...he was ******. I was able to get another arrow in him as backup and after a short fight I finished him off with the firearm before loading him in the boat.

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Im going to look at a boat this week to take on this hunt. If you had drawn the same days as my wife and I, Id let you roll with us.

Assuming the rig is as described.
I appreciate it, I hope you and the wife have a good trip and tag out!
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I got a couple of muzzy gator getter arrows for the hunt. Can I use a regular foam target for practice or is there a better method?
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Old 08-23-2019, 01:59 PM   #30
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I shot at two liter coke bottles sitting in the grass. I would stand on the deck of my boat that was on the trailer. I have never shot a fishing arrow into a foam target. I imagine it would a pain to remove.
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Guys be sure the tags on the boat and trailer are current. They normally have a game warden there checking this out.
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Guys be sure the tags on the boat and trailer are current. They normally have a game warden there checking this out.
Ss Gator getter came home yesterday. All my paperwork is in order. Tpwd office next week

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10-4 Just did not want anyone to get a ticket. Anybody needing hook and line setup PM me
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I shot at two liter coke bottles sitting in the grass. I would stand on the deck of my boat that was on the trailer. I have never shot a fishing arrow into a foam target. I imagine it would a pain to remove.
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Let me know how you’ll do. I will help in any way. Good luck
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So we looked at the fine print and they say an extra 100 foot of line other than leader??

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On my book line I use 10 feet of #96 trotline leader then tie that to about 25 feet on 1/4” rope. The more line you have the more tangled up the gator will get. Think about this if you had a hook in your stomach you would not pull real hard. Same works for a gator.
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On my book line I use 10 feet of #96 trotline leader then tie that to about 25 feet on 1/4Ē rope. The more line you have the more tangled up the gator will get. Think about this if you had a hook in your stomach you would not pull real hard. Same works for a gator.
Yea. Makes perfect sense to me. I have 3 rigs 35 foot long ready to rumble. I didnt want 135 of mess

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That plenty. Take my trick on putting your bait in a knee high stocking hose. It makes it hard to get the bait off your hook.If you'll need anything PM me.
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:57 PM   #41
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A yak is doable but not ideal. We took one out of a little 12' narrow Jon boat once. It is a lot easier with two people. And a bigger boat would be better. They don't act like on swamp people and thrash around unless you jerk them around. If they have a place to walk and set a line from the bank that is really easy as we have done that too.
Agreed 100%

If you have enough line on your arrow you should be able to go to shore and drag him to you for the dispatching shot. I'm excited to get another with my bow. I'm gonna be disappointed if I have to set a line at the first day deadline.
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Agreed 100%

If you have enough line on your arrow you should be able to go to shore and drag him to you for the dispatching shot. I'm excited to get another with my bow. I'm gonna be disappointed if I have to set a line at the first day deadline.
Any secrets to getting close enough to a gator to take it with a bow that you are willing to share? I have my bow setup and ready to go on Wednesday.
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First try a regular popping cork. You will know real fast if he is interested. If he is not interested in chasing the cork try to find a spot where you can get out of the boat on the side of the canal and have the boat pull down the canal. Just remember they don’t allow anything with hooks.
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First try a regular popping cork. You will know real fast if he is interested. If he is not interested in chasing the cork try to find a spot where you can get out of the boat on the side of the canal and have the boat pull down the canal. Just remember they donít allow anything with hooks.
Thanks for the advice. We were thinking about taking some fishing equipment to fish while we were waiting but sounds like we wonít be able to do that. I will definitely try the popping cork trick. Three of us are headed out Wednesday morning. We are definitely excited.
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If you’ll need anything while here call me I will be off work until Friday night. I will pm you my number. Good Luck
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Last bit of advice is use the wind. When you set out your bait pole set it so the wind carries the Sent of your bait down the most area of water. They use their nose to find food. PM sent
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Thanks for the advice. We were thinking about taking some fishing equipment to fish while we were waiting but sounds like we wonít be able to do that. I will definitely try the popping cork trick. Three of us are headed out Wednesday morning. We are definitely excited.
Yalls hunt is Wednesday afternoon and Thursday? Wife and I are Tuesday and Wednesday. I never thought about a popping cork. I've had them follow a rattling popping cork to the boat before

Pretty sure I got the SS gator getter ready to roll. Fresh water pump, tuned carbs, new fuel tank and battery. New hydro turf last week and put some decking in today.

Started our bait chicken today with a little deer blood.

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I got your PM. Thanks for the offer for help. I will reach out if we need anything.
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Yalls hunt is Wednesday afternoon and Thursday? Wife and I are Tuesday and Wednesday. I never thought about a popping cork. I've had them follow a rattling popping cork to the boat before

Pretty sure I got the SS gator getter ready to roll. Fresh water pump, tuned carbs, new fuel tank and battery. New hydro turf last week and put some decking in today.

Started our bait chicken today with a little deer blood.

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Yes. Our hunt is Wednesday afternoon to Thursday. Sounds like you are ready to go. Good luck!!!
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