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Old 01-09-2018, 11:22 AM   #1
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Sure this will stir the pot. My personal favorite is a pump shotgun with buckshot. Had a friend of mine say "yeah, that's a good one so you don't hurt anyone else by shooting through the wall", lol. I informed him of the power and force of a 12 gauge shotgun.

The sound of the action alone is enough to make someone ***x there pants.
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Old 01-09-2018, 11:28 AM   #2
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flashlight first and foremost. Then whatever you can manipulate safely at the same time.
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Old 01-09-2018, 11:31 AM   #3
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I'll take a SBR over anything else.
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Old 01-09-2018, 11:44 AM   #4
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Shotgun is indeed an effective home or elsewhere defense weapon...

Some of my personal favorites:

1. SRM12-16 16 rounds +1 in the barrel... 4 selectable magazine tubes (#4 birdshot in 2 tubes and 00buckshot in the other 2... plus a very sharp breeching tool for a muzzle brake...

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2. KSG12 14 rounds +1 in the barrel... 2 7round selectable magazine tubes, one full of #4's and 1 full of 00 buckshot...

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3. Benelli M4 Tactical with a tube estension Just 8 rounds of whatever makes you happy...

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Old 01-09-2018, 11:48 AM   #6
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A fresh can of wasp and hornet spray...
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Old 01-09-2018, 11:50 AM   #7
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I'll take a SBR over anything else.
Same.

My ideal home defense would be a suppressed MP5. Next would be some variant of a 45 or 9 AR Pistol. Then maybe a SBR 300 blackout suppressed of course and shooting subs.

Can't really find a downside to using those for home defense. You sure as heck aren't making it out alive and also won't go blind/deaf
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The sound of the action alone is enough to make someone ***x there pants.
I wouldn't consider it ready for home defense if a round wasn't already chambered.
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:31 PM   #9
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Ours is an 870 with #4 lead and federal flight control #00 buck
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Ours is an 870 with #4 lead and federal flight control #00 buck
Exactly what I have mine stuffed with on the ammo too! And they won't hear the action operating... they're fully charged now. First thing they'll hear is... well whatever you hear on the way to meet your maker...
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Right now I am using either an AR15 or 9mm handgun because it's what I have. I want to build a 12ga home defense shotgun but haven't figured out what I want yet.
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Exactly what I have mine stuffed with on the ammo too! And they won't hear the action operating... they're fully charged now. First thing they'll hear is... well whatever you hear on the way to meet your maker...
I took a 3 day combat shotgun course last year. The instructors swore by the flight control. One day at 'lunch' we shot the flight control side by side with what everyone else had been carrying. I went home and ordered 8 boxes! Stuff is dang near like a slug!
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SBR 300blk with Suppressor and Lehigh Defense heavies.
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Shotgun is indeed an effective home or elsewhere defense weapon...

Some of my personal favorites:

1. SRM12-16 16 rounds +1 in the barrel... 4 selectable magazine tubes (#4 birdshot in 2 tubes and 00buckshot in the other 2... plus a very sharp breeching tool for a muzzle brake...

Attachment 891579

2. KSG12 14 rounds +1 in the barrel... 2 7round selectable magazine tubes, one full of #4's and 1 full of 00 buckshot...

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3. Benelli M4 Tactical with a tube estension Just 8 rounds of whatever makes you happy...

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Love the SRM!
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:51 PM   #15
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Old 01-09-2018, 01:03 PM   #17
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Shotgun for me too. I have in my lifetime fired 1,000 times more rounds out of a shotgun than any other weapon. Having never been in a combat situation I figure it is wise to use a gun I don't have to think about. Handling a shotgun is second nature and my best chance when dealing with the brain fog/adrenaline of a life threatening incident.
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Old 01-09-2018, 01:13 PM   #19
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A dog, most break in's result from checking a house first. If you have a dog barking they don't come back.
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Whatever I can grab the quickest. I still think I need to get a chainsaw for a home defense weapon. You talk about the sound of a shotgun chambering a round making someone run,mine is already loaded. But a chainsaw would have the same affect if not even better. If you were in someone's house in the dark,you've never been there before so you don't know the layout and somewhere in the darkness you hear a chainsaw try to turn over. All the sudden the chainsaw comes to life and a half naked guy runs out swinging it,lops the legs off a table and continues towards you....you ain't gonna stay there and see what happens next.

Heck I'd probably run out fully nude just for the full affect.

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What you need to be concerned with in home defense is over penetration. As much as I love the AR platform, it is way to powerful of a home defense weapon IMO. A 12ga shotgun with #6's or 4's is lethal at living room, hallway, stairway and bedroom distances without fear of over penetration. Do a few tests on your own...Construct a mock up wall with 2x4's and insulation. Shoot at it with different calibers and weapons. See if a Beta mag and a M4 is the right recipe. Put a .22lr up against 4-6 layers of 1/2" sheetrock. See what you get. Loads of youtube vids on this topic.
The shotgun is the right medicine for home defense.
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Old 01-09-2018, 01:31 PM   #25
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The sound of the action alone is enough to make someone ***x there pants.
I leave mine loaded in the chamber. Racking a pump shotgun only alerts a burglar to your presence, location, and the fact you are armed ,IMO.

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Old 01-09-2018, 01:54 PM   #28
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I'll take a SBR over anything else.


This and preferably suppressed. An AR15 with the right ammo (think 40 grain VMAX type stuff) over penetrates way less than a typical defensive handgun or a shotgun with 00 buck.

Bird shot in a shotgun wouldn’t even be a consideration for me.


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I leave mine loaded in the chamber. Racking a pump shotgun only alerts a burglar to your presence, location, and the fact you are armed ,IMO.
I have one in the chamber as well. Actually don't even have a pump anymore. The semi is loaded with 00 buck shot.
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A dog, most break in's result from checking a house first. If you have a dog barking they don't come back.
Yup. And dogs are good for telling you if your kids are sneaking in and out.
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Whatever I can grab the quickest. I still think I need to get a chainsaw for a home defense weapon. You talk about the sound of a shotgun chambering a round making someone run,mine is already loaded. But a chainsaw would have the same affect if not even better. If you were in someone's house in the dark,you've never been there before so you don't know the layout and somewhere in the darkness you hear a chainsaw try to turn over. All the sudden the chainsaw comes to life and a half naked guy runs out swinging it,lops the legs off a table and continues towards you....you ain't gonna stay there and see what happens next.

Heck I'd probably run out fully nude just for the full affect.
I'm afraid of what leg I would chop off.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:11 PM   #32
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a reliable pump shotgun with bird shot.

you boys talking $2,000 rigs (sbr with suppressor) are crazy. no way I'm leaving that rig out of the safe for the first crackhead that breaks into my house to grab.
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Whatever I can grab the quickest. I still think I need to get a chainsaw for a home defense weapon. You talk about the sound of a shotgun chambering a round making someone run,mine is already loaded. But a chainsaw would have the same affect if not even better. If you were in someone's house in the dark,you've never been there before so you don't know the layout and somewhere in the darkness you hear a chainsaw try to turn over. All the sudden the chainsaw comes to life and a half naked guy runs out swinging it,lops the legs off a table and continues towards you....you ain't gonna stay there and see what happens next.

Heck I'd probably run out fully nude just for the full affect.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:15 PM   #34
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Shotgun beside the bed and a XDM full-size 40cal on my nightstand. Both are loaded and ready to go.

They do have to get thru the 3 dogs in the living room first and I doubt that will happen without waking me up.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:25 PM   #36
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I personally like my VEPR12...keep 12 round mag in it.

I do like the new magazine fed Rem 870 though.
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This and preferably suppressed. An AR15 with the right ammo (think 40 grain VMAX type stuff) over penetrates way less than a typical defensive handgun or a shotgun with 00 buck.

Bird shot in a shotgun wouldn’t even be a consideration for me.


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2 shot - 6 shot would leave a dang good blood trail to track the guy once he gets out of your house. You may or may not kill him but I bet you puncture some lungs and damage some organs. If you are apprehensive about if you could pull the trigger to actually kill someone but still want to protect your family, I think this is a guiltless way of doing it. Some people, most, aren't built to kill...even in defense.
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Somewhere, I read that of reasons criminals chose not to break into a house #1 was a barking dog. I think they questioned criminals in prison for this.
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I'd do a pump shotgun with Birdshot as it won't go through walls as easy and pumping a shotgun as a warning isn't a good idea. Gives up your position. The fact that the door was locked or that this isn't their house and their stuff is warning enough.
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a reliable pump shotgun with bird shot.

you boys talking $2,000 rigs (sbr with suppressor) are crazy. no way I'm leaving that rig out of the safe for the first crackhead that breaks into my house to grab.
Or, you could keep it in the safe when you aren't at home.
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Shotgun is indeed an effective home or elsewhere defense weapon...

Some of my personal favorites:

1. SRM12-16 16 rounds +1 in the barrel... 4 selectable magazine tubes (#4 birdshot in 2 tubes and 00buckshot in the other 2... plus a very sharp breeching tool for a muzzle brake...

Attachment 891579

2. KSG12 14 rounds +1 in the barrel... 2 7round selectable magazine tubes, one full of #4's and 1 full of 00 buckshot...

Attachment 891578

3. Benelli M4 Tactical with a tube estension Just 8 rounds of whatever makes you happy...

Attachment 891577
DO you own all of these??????? Can I come play? WOW!!!!!!!!!!
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Or, you could keep it in the safe when you aren't at home.
I want something that stays in the same position 24/7/365 so there is no doubt when I hear something at 3am that it will be there. A weapon that you put in the safe every time you leave the house and pull back out when you get home doesn't sound like a good option IMO.
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A fresh can of wasp and hornet spray...
Accurate over 20 feet.
For back up:
A pistol grip 12 gauge with a flashlight.
A semi auto hand gun with a laser light.
A revolver. (light is optional)
A big knife or anything sharp. (light is optional)
A smelly pair of skid mark underwear or stink foot socks.(light is optional)
A rock. (light is optional?)
Have Roseann Barr appear from nowhere. (light is mandatory)

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Or, you could keep it in the safe when you aren't at home.
I keep mine loaded and next to my bedroom door. When I leave the house, I put it in the safe and grab my EDC pistol. Opposite happens when I come home from work.

That being said, i still have 2 870s loaded ready to go in 2 other parts of my house.

If I hear something I gotta check out at night, I'll already be in my bedroom and grab the SBR/ AR Pistol

Try clearing a house after shooting a 12 gauge in a hallway with no ear pro at night. It's no bueno, suppression is a must

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