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Old 05-12-2019, 09:53 PM   #1
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My wife and mother in law are Chickasaw Indian, and are talking about needing to move to Ada or Sulphur Oklahoma to take advantage of Indian retirement services ( a senior center, cheaper pharmaceuticals, medical services, at cost fuel And lots more) I personally donít know anything about living in Oklahoma
And am not feeling much excitement about it , but our area of Texas is being over run with freaks from California, so is that area ď livable ď for a guy who has never lived more than 2-3 hours from the coast or great hunting ?
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Old 05-12-2019, 09:59 PM   #2
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I work in the DFW mess and enjoy business trips Oklahoma City very much. People are very polite and reminds me of a smaller Fort Worth.
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Old 05-12-2019, 09:59 PM   #3
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I like Oklahoma
The rate texas is changing I could picture ending up in Oklahoma after retirement


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Old 05-12-2019, 10:01 PM   #4
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You’ll have to take up meth so you can fit in.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:03 PM   #5
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Way less libs and city folk.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:06 PM   #6
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^^^^This right here and stop using turn signals
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:08 PM   #7
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It's not bad. Just don't let any of the Californian's know it. We'd rather not have them here.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:17 PM   #8
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A lot of tornadoes...

I hate to see ths way Texas is changing. Colorado is ahead of you in a bad way.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:18 PM   #9
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Yes this would be after retirement in a couple of years
The meth thing wouldnít be a big change as we live close to Bandera and sometimes shop In kerrville . The medical services sound awesome for the retired tribal members ( but I have lived in South Texas and would hate to commit) to someplace awful to live
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:41 PM   #10
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I had a friend who moved to Pawhuska(North)Oklahoma.Man,I loved going up there to visit,and hangout.
As far as everybody referencing meth heads..Hell we have our share here!

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Old 05-12-2019, 10:45 PM   #11
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I look at it this way:

If Oklahoma did suck so much, Texas would fall into the Gulf....
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:56 PM   #12
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Your die hard Texans will give just about any state a hard time. I love Texas but Oklahoma isn’t bad at all, did an internship up there last summer. I considered an offer there, if it wasn’t the fact that I didn’t know anyone id probably have taken it. Good golf and Has their fair share of beautiful lakes.
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:20 PM   #13
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State income tax and crappy roads. Hey but it’s cheaper living if you can find a decent job.
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:41 PM   #14
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I just spent a year in Lawton. Crap Hole. Stay away from there. Most every where else folks are much like Texans. The OU and OKSU rivalry is for real. With only two schools to root for they take it pretty serious. Tornadoes are an issue. State tax isn't to bad if you don't make much money like I didn't. Turnpikes are pay to use and pay to repair your front end regularly. Ada is a nice town.
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:42 PM   #15
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I hope people of Oklahoma don’t throw used toilet paper on the floor or in a trash can next to the toilet
That is one thing that I hate about people of San Antonio and South Texas

And native Americans are exempt from state income taxes if I read the information correctly

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Old 05-13-2019, 12:32 AM   #16
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I was born and raised not far from Sulphur. The park down there is beautiful and Lake Arbuckle is very close. Also Turner Falls in Davis is nice. If you don't have any kids in school I would do Sulphur. If you got kids I would do Ada.
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:15 AM   #17
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I don't mind OK one bit. Spent 4yrs there in college and loved it. I've been to Ada a few times but don't know much about it. If you like small town living, you will like OK.
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:14 AM   #18
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I used to hunt in n/w ok, a couple miles s of Kansas.. people very nice, slower paced lifestyles.. like tx was 25 yrs ago... I, too, hate the way tx is changing
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:34 AM   #19
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I'd move to Ok in a heart beat. I have a good friend in the Ada area and enjoy my visits.
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:59 AM   #20
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This ^^^^. I have a friend who just moved from DFW to Oklahoma and bought a steal of a house!
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:14 AM   #21
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Im still 20yrs away from retirement but been thinking about it myself. My mom lives in NE OK and I like the terrian and weather there but there is an awful lot of super trashy people, theft and drug use. If I can buy enough land I figure I could get far enough away from them hopefully. There plenty of good solid people mixed in though.
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:19 AM   #22
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I’d be looking around Antlers. Commute to Ada. My cousin runs a hospital in Ada. Good country!
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:11 AM   #23
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Texas is turning blue way too fast. Oklahoma never will. I never thought I'd ever consider leaving Texas. The day it goes all California, I'm out.

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Old 05-13-2019, 09:12 AM   #24
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Way less libs and city folk.
Also way less small towns and country folk by sheer numbers.

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Old 05-13-2019, 09:16 AM   #25
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We lived in Northeastern OK when I was a kid. We lived close to Lake Tenkiller and it was a great place to grow up. Beautiful country.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:25 AM   #26
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Texas is turning blue way too fast. Oklahoma never will. I never thought I'd ever consider leaving Texas. The day it goes all California, I'm out.

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Old 05-13-2019, 09:44 AM   #27
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Also way less small towns and country folk by sheer numbers.

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Old 05-13-2019, 09:51 AM   #28
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Can't speak to living in ADA, but my friend has a place on the Canadian River just north of there and the deer quality and numbers are astounding. Nice long bow season too.
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:02 AM   #29
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Therein lies the tough question.

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Old 05-13-2019, 10:06 AM   #30
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Hunting and fishing are really good. Ticks are bad... Most meth is cooked there but sent to Texas... Very country, and lots of great people. They are starting to feel about Texans the way we do about the people moving in here and driving prices up.
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:31 AM   #31
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My wife and mother in law are Chickasaw Indian, and are talking about needing to move to Ada or Sulphur Oklahoma to take advantage of Indian retirement services ( a senior center, cheaper pharmaceuticals, medical services, at cost fuel And lots more) I personally donít know anything about living in Oklahoma
And am not feeling much excitement about it , but our area of Texas is being over run with freaks from California, so is that area ď livable ď for a guy who has never lived more than 2-3 hours from the coast or great hunting ?
Hunting is horrible and the closest thing to a coastline is lake Texoma..

On a side note, I was born and raised in Sulphur (still here) and went to school as well as worked in Ada. I'm also Chickasaw and work for the nation. If you have any questions about the area/tribal type programs PM me, I'll answer your questions the best I can.
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:34 AM   #32
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You will have to pull your two front teeth out to fit in

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Old 05-13-2019, 10:38 AM   #33
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:04 AM   #34
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Lot of bad roads and a lot of beautiful country throughout. I travel across the state monthly for work and don't mind it. I hope to stay in the hill country the rest of my life but Oklahoma wouldn't be bad.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:11 AM   #35
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Have family in OK, and had in laws there. Ada, specifically, well outside of town, bought nice house on 70 acres or so for less than $150k. This was 15 years or so ago. I agree with previous posts about the people and slower pace. I'd live there if I didn't need a good job.

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Old 05-13-2019, 11:16 AM   #36
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If you leave Texas, the Californians win.

Oklahoma is alright - I went to school there. They do things "different" is the best way to put it. It's ok, just different and not how I would have done it. Hard to put my finger exactly on what it is. Just done subpar but works.

Edit: Alva, Oklahoma and college was the greatest experience of my life. I don't give it enough credit in my original post. But you are hours away from everything.

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Old 05-13-2019, 11:19 AM   #37
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No me gusto Oklahoma...
I lived there 4 years (Chickasha, OK) and HATED every day of it. The outdoors and wildlife was good, but I was **** poor and barely got to hunt and most of the time I didn't even have a car... The whole set up, some of their rules and laws and and the whole mentality was Ack Bass backwards....
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:21 AM   #38
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If you leave, Texas, the Californians win.

Oklahoma is alright - I went to school there. They do things "different" is the best way to put it. It's ok, just different and not how I would have done it. Hard to put my finger exactly on what it is. Just done subpar but works.
I rest my case,,,,, That's what I meant as well.... well said.....

Just something odd and awkward about the whole set up, people and the state....
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:26 AM   #39
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LOL! I said the same thing about the weird *** city people in Texas....
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:28 AM   #40
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There are a lot of great people in Ok, and some pretty country as well. Some of the backward mentalities drive me nuts, and they are prevalent in the outlying areas...and prevalent in business there.

That said, it wouldn't take long to find a nice spot if you looked a little.
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Lot of bad roads and a lot of beautiful country throughout. I travel across the state monthly for work and don't mind it. I hope to stay in the hill country the rest of my life but Oklahoma wouldn't be bad.
Yeah, it certainly pales in comparison to the Hill Country but then again the rest of Texas does too.

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Old 05-13-2019, 11:35 AM   #42
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If you leave, Texas, the Californians win.

Oklahoma is alright - I went to school there. They do things "different" is the best way to put it. It's ok, just different and not how I would have done it. Hard to put my finger exactly on what it is. Just done subpar but works.

Edit: Alva, Oklahoma and college was the greatest experience of my life. I don't give it enough credit in my original post. But you are hours away from everything.
I like that way of thinking.....but what can you do if Texas adapts California gun laws?

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Old 05-13-2019, 11:40 AM   #43
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I grew up in Antlers and Atoka and spent a good deal of time in Ada and Sulphur. I'd live there now if it wasn't for chemical plant paychecks.

Being so "far from everything" isn't such a bad thing either. Once you move 5 miles away from a McDonalds, you start to lose the taste for the crap. Its like that with most "city dweller stuff". How many fast food places, restaurants and big box stores do you really need anyway? Every time I walk out of my house and look up at the stars, I thank God. Living just a bit closer to Houston all you can see in the sky is a haze.

At least Ada and Sulphur are close to the Texas border. You'll have to take the short drive across the Red River to get 6.0 beer, the 3.2 beer up there is like drinking beer flavored sparkling water.

Regarding methamphetamine use in OK...I call a foul. Look next door to you in almost any city in the US of A and you're gonna see it or something close.

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Old 05-13-2019, 11:43 AM   #44
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I grew up in Antlers and Atoka and spent a good deal of time in Ada and Sulphur. I'd live there now if it wasn't for chemical plant paychecks.

Being so "far from everything" isn't such a bad thing either. Once you move 5 miles away from a McDonalds, you start to lose the taste for the crap. Its like that with most "city dweller stuff". How many fast food places, restaurants and big box stores do you really need anyway? Every time I walk out of my house and look up at the stars, I thank God. Living just a bit closer to Houston all you can see in the sky is a haze.

At least Ada and Sulphur are close to the Texas border. You'll have to take the short drive across the Red River to get 6.0 beer, the 3.2 beer up there is like drinking beer flavored sparkling water.
They have real beer now.
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Doesn't Antlers still have a McDonald's at the toll booth?

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Old 05-13-2019, 11:50 AM   #46
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We have a farm outside of Atoka and love it up there
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:18 PM   #47
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If you leave Texas, the Californians win.

Oklahoma is alright - I went to school there. They do things "different" is the best way to put it. It's ok, just different and not how I would have done it. Hard to put my finger exactly on what it is. Just done subpar but works.

Edit: Alva, Oklahoma and college was the greatest experience of my life. I don't give it enough credit in my original post. But you are hours away from everything.
I want to expand a bit on this...

Alva, where Northwestern Oklahoma State University is, was amazing. The people will give you the shirt off their back no matter who are you. I feel like I'm a better person because of Alva and the great people there.

But here's the "different" things... three examples I can think of.

Clay thinks he's getting shanked by a prisoner

I'm 21 and got a student-working job at the Rec Center. On my first day, I found out that to save money the Rec Center would go pick up 3 inmates from the local prison and bring them back to the Rec Center to work. I didn't realize Alva had a prison, nor did I know that it was a low-security prison (all the inmates were in for non-violent crimes, mostly drug related. And to work out there, you had to have less than a year left of your sentence...so no point in being in jail 10 years and then in the last 3 months you break out. But I didn't know any of this. )

My first assignment was to fix a sprinkler head in an open field they used for intramural flag football. It was probably a quarter mile from the Rec Center itself. They left me with a prisoner to assist. We started digging and found a flat head screw driver. He noticed it before I did, and got really excited. "Ohhh! Is that a screwdriver!?" he asked... "Yeah..." and I picked it up before he could. I thought he was going to shank my @$$ and take the gator to Kansas.

Jesse Dunn

Jesse Dunn was a building named after some guy probably named Jesse. Hopefully Jesse wasn't as jacked up as this building, which housed the Communications Department, Health Department and the Nursing department.

As the story goes, the building was built as part of the New Deal. Apparently there was a ton of money being given as long as the workers were working and building. So, whoever was in charge was telling them to just keep building stuff, and it's still there today. There are multiple hallways that lead to nowhere. There are staircases that go up, lead to nothing, and then go straight back down, also. I can't describe it - you almost have to see it to believe it. I compared it to an Escherian Stairwell.

The Bathroom

Ok - this one is just lazy, but it never got fixed in 5 years so it's a perfect example. Whenever they constructed a restroom, they put the door on, but no handle. There's just a hole where the handle would go if they put it on there. The locking mechanism still worked, just you had to push a very thin bar that was in the hole. But how in 5 years did no one see this and fix it??? I don't want people looking in when I'm dropping a deuce.

And it's not like this is limited to just Alva. I played baseball and traveled across the state. Every city has it's goofy, lazy, doesn't-really-hurt-anyone-but-could-have-been-done-different quirks.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:22 PM   #48
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I grew up in Antlers and Atoka and spent a good deal of time in Ada and Sulphur. I'd live there now if it wasn't for chemical plant paychecks.

Being so "far from everything" isn't such a bad thing either. Once you move 5 miles away from a McDonalds, you start to lose the taste for the crap. Its like that with most "city dweller stuff". How many fast food places, restaurants and big box stores do you really need anyway? Every time I walk out of my house and look up at the stars, I thank God. Living just a bit closer to Houston all you can see in the sky is a haze.

At least Ada and Sulphur are close to the Texas border. You'll have to take the short drive across the Red River to get 6.0 beer, the 3.2 beer up there is like drinking beer flavored sparkling water.

Regarding methamphetamine use in OK...I call a foul. Look next door to you in almost any city in the US of A and you're gonna see it or something close.
Ahhh, yes. Meth. During orientation and NWOSU they had a slide with stats. The only stat I remember was that 4.8% of 12 year olds in Woods County were addicted to meth. Not tried it....addicted.
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better than Lousy-ana. Worse roads and state troopers everywhere.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:47 PM   #50
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better than Lousy-ana. Worse roads and state troopers everywhere.
Ha ha , my wife has family and land in saint francessville LA north of Baton Rouge
As we were driving to her aunts house we saw about 20 houses with refrigerators and people sitting on the porch
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