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Old 05-02-2019, 06:48 PM   #1
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I’m thinking about getting rid of one of my .270s to try and get into a smaller round for my son. Any idea on who’s got the best deals on a .308

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Old 05-02-2019, 07:04 PM   #2
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Old 05-02-2019, 07:12 PM   #3
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Corey I have the deal of a life time for you.

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Old 05-02-2019, 08:54 PM   #4
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I don't have any leads on a .308 but I did exactly the same thing when my son wanted to graduate from a .223. I bought a used Remington 700 .308, cut down the stock & used Remington Managed Recoil bullets the first year. I slipped full strength in on him the second year & it didn't bother him. Now fast forward, he is 22 years old, 6'1", 180# & will always grab that cut down .308 to go deer hunting even though he has better options. " It's the deer slayer Dad". He has taken quite a few deer with that gun.
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:47 AM   #5
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Am I missing something here?
The .270 is based on the 30-06 round and is considered a long action.
The .308 is smaller in OAL and less powerful and considered a short action.

Cartridge Type: 308
Height: 2.015"
Width: 0.473"
Average FPS: 2681
Average Energy: 2617
Average Gr: 164
Recoil: 1.95
Power Rank: 4.4 of 20

The 270
Cartridge Type: Rifle
Height: 2.54"
Width: 0.473"
Average FPS: 3536
Average Energy: 3775
Average Gr: 136
Recoil: 1.82
Power Rank: 4.81 of 20

IMO the 270 is a better cartridge than the .308.
I would stick with the 270 and if you want more power. Go to the 30-06 cartridge.
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:52 AM   #6
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Am I missing something here?
The .270 is based on the 30-06 round and is considered a long action.
The .308 is smaller in OAL and less powerful and considered a short action.

Cartridge Type: 308
Height: 2.015"
Width: 0.473"
Average FPS: 2681
Average Energy: 2617
Average Gr: 164
Recoil: 1.95
Power Rank: 4.4 of 20

The 270
Cartridge Type: Rifle
Height: 2.54"
Width: 0.473"
Average FPS: 3536
Average Energy: 3775
Average Gr: 136
Recoil: 1.82
Power Rank: 4.81 of 20

IMO the 270 is a better cartridge than the .308.
I would stick with the 270 and if you want more power. Go to the 30-06 cartridge.

OP wants to go with a less powerful round. Good info on 270 & 308.
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Yup i did miss something...duh.
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:29 AM   #8
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OP wants to go with a less powerful round. Good info on 270 & 308.
X2 thanks for the Side by side info though very informative
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:34 AM   #9
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For whitetail mainly? Just tossing out ideas what about a .243, you could make it a dual purpose gun for him and it’s a great varmit round
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:55 AM   #10
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About 5 years ago, my son got interested in getting a deer rifle. We had a lot of discussions about different rifles - brands, barrel length and configuration, action types, calibers, etc. I'm old school and told him that in my opinion, for hunting hogs and whitetail deer - especially in Central Texas, you would do fine with a rifle chambered in either .243 Winchester, .270 Winchester, .308 Winchester, or 30.06 Springfield. My personal favorite center fire rifle cartridge is .308 Winchester, and my favorite rifle in that caliber is a 99c Savage (lever action). Yes, I know there are other calibers and rifles that are "superior", but that's what I like and use.

Currently, we live in the age of the cheap rifles. All of the major manufacturers like Remington, Savage, Ruger, Mossberg, etc. make their version of a very affordable bolt action rifle - usually in a synthetic stock, and with a cheap but adequate scope. These usually go on sale at the major sporting good stores right before deer season, and continue through December - no doubt for Christmas sales. We bought our son a Remington 783 bolt gun chambered in .308 Winchester. He shoots 150 gr. ammo - usually Remington Core-Lokt and has killed numerous hogs and deer with it. If I recall correctly, we paid around $230.00 for it about 5 years ago, and I've seen the same rifle, now with a scope included, go on sale for around the $250.00 price range. We've had no problems with his Remington, but that being said, if I had to buy one today, I'd probably go with a Ruger instead because I like Rugers, and they have excellent customer service.

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Old 05-03-2019, 10:03 AM   #11
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Savage Axis...great gun for a kid and accurate as hail..



Also many times Savage will run rebates on it and you can save even more. I think I was in for just under $200 after a $100 rebate on my 22-250. And it is a shooter.
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:08 AM   #12
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For whitetail mainly? Just tossing out ideas what about a .243, you could make it a dual purpose gun for him and itís a great varmit round
I think this is the route I'd go personally.
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:42 AM   #13
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Am I missing something here?
The .270 is based on the 30-06 round and is considered a long action.
The .308 is smaller in OAL and less powerful and considered a short action.

Cartridge Type: 308
Height: 2.015"
Width: 0.473"
Average FPS: 2681
Average Energy: 2617
Average Gr: 164
Recoil: 1.95
Power Rank: 4.4 of 20

The 270
Cartridge Type: Rifle
Height: 2.54"
Width: 0.473"
Average FPS: 3536
Average Energy: 3775
Average Gr: 136
Recoil: 1.82
Power Rank: 4.81 of 20

IMO the 270 is a better cartridge than the .308.
I would stick with the 270 and if you want more power. Go to the 30-06 cartridge.
You better let Winchester know their Model 70 .308 is a short action.

I ordered parts for a short action....didn't fit. Had to buy the long action parts.....cornfusing as hail!

Also, .308 is the best round ever developed◊

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Old 05-03-2019, 10:45 AM   #14
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Another vote for .243. My grandfather gave me a 6mm rem (pretty much a .243) when I was 7 or 8 years old. I still use it to this day. It has killed many whitetail, mule deer, coyotes, and hogs. One day I'll retire that old rifle in a special display case and build another 6mm rem for hunting.

If I could only have one rifle for Texas it would be a .243 or a 6mm remington.
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Old 05-03-2019, 11:17 AM   #15
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Its been awhile since I shot a .270 so I cant give you much feedback on that round but I can tell you my .308 has some kick to it and that's on a semi auto AR platform. I would imagine a bolt action would have a little more kick to it. Have you thought about a 6.5?
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Old 05-03-2019, 11:35 AM   #16
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Ruger American in digital camo for $289:
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst....cfm/ID/124526

TC Compass with Weaver scope for $319:
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst....cfm/ID/199689

TC Compass for $299:
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst....cfm/ID/176409

I bought my wife a TC Compass in 308 from there bundled with a Vortex Diamondback for about the same price. I pulled the junk mounts off and installed the included scope with a one piece mount and that gun shoots great. It's a shorter gun/barrel than most of our other rifles, we shoot the Fusion MSR out of it as it's designed for shorter barrels. It's a nice rifle, we're happy with it. My son shot a doe at 269 yards on a youth hunt with it at Matagorda Island this last year.

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Old 05-03-2019, 12:56 PM   #17
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Iíve considered .308, .243, and 22-250... heís 7 so was wanting a caliber he could carry for several years so why i was leaning more towards the .308.
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Iíve considered .308, .243, and 22-250... heís 7 so was wanting a caliber he could carry for several years so why i was leaning more towards the .308.
I looked at many of the same calibers with the addition of a 7-08, which is what I ended up buying for my son... started him out using reduced recoil rounds which were fine for him when he was 8.

I don't rifle hunt very much, but when I do, I grab his 7-08... it's a sweet gun for anything in Texas.... When it comes right down to it, it's not a lot different than the .308
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This is not much help to the OP but it is interesting how we think about our hunting rifles. My Dad started me off with a 222 Rem Mag; he taught us to shoot them in the neck. Everything dropped in its tracks as far as I can recall. Then I got a 250-3000, worked great; then a 270; then a 7mm Wby Mag; then a 308 and now a 243. I have run the spectrum and am happy with my 243 for deer and hogs. Not sure why I kept changing. I know as a kid growing up I read the cartridge performance specs and wanted bigger, faster, flatter shooting rifles. Although my hunting shots were always less than 200 yards and everything died no matter the caliber.

When I started my girls out hunting around age 8 or 9, I put them behind my 308 thinking it would give them some leeway if they had a bad shot. We were at the range and about the fourth round my daughter looked up and had a tear running down her cheek. I felt like a heel. We all shoot 243's now. Very accurate, not punishing to shoot and lethal.
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Old 05-03-2019, 01:16 PM   #20
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308 is the perfect utility cartridge. It doesnít necessarily excel at much but it is extremely versatile.

Find you one with a twist rate of 1:8 to 1:10 and you wonít find a more versatile rifle.

Relatively light recoil and muzzle report and bullet choices from 110 grains to 240 grains.


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If you can locate or order one of these you will have one fine rifle.

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/hen...eak-open-rifle

Plus, the size will fit a youth or lady just fine.

https://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/09/...gle-shot-rifle

And, it’s not ugly plastic.

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I don't think I would have a 7 or 8 year old shooting a 308 or 270 as their first rifle. I would get something with less recoil to start them out as stated above! Kids that old don't weigh very much and are very bony. Unlike fat old men!
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The OP didn't mention until later in the thread that his son is 7 yrs. old, and I was assuming an older kid. Unless your son is a pretty beefy kid, I would stay away from the .270, .308 and 30.06 calibers. The .243 may even be a bit much, plus they can be loud. I've killed whitetail deer with a 5.56mm AR-type rifle without any problems (1-shot, DRT kills). If an AR type rifle fits him, and you use the proper ammo (the 64 gr. JSP works well for me), and with good shot placement, he should be fine with that. Down stream, once he gets older and physically bigger, you can get him an upper in a larger caliber like 6.8SPC-II, .300, etc.

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I’ve considered .308, .243, and 22-250... he’s 7 so was wanting a caliber he could carry for several years so why i was leaning more towards the .308.
7mm-08 or 6.5cm would work great. Light loads now and standard loads later.


Then he could get a hammer for really big stuff when he's grown.
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My 8yo has no problem with the .308 in a Ruger American Compact.....and its a freaking nail driver!
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The OP didn't mention until later in the thread that his son is 7 yrs. old, and I was assuming an older kid. Unless your son is a pretty beefy kid, I would stay away from the .270, .308 and 30.06 calibers. The .243 may even be a bit much, plus they can be loud. I've killed whitetail deer with a 5.56mm AR-type rifle without any problems (1-shot, DRT kills). If an AR type rifle fits him, and you use the proper ammo (the 64 gr. JSP works well for me), and with good shot placement, he should be fine with that. Down stream, once he gets older and physically bigger, you can get him an upper in a larger caliber like 6.8SPC-II, .300, etc.

Good luck,

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Yeah 308 is pretty big for a 7 year old. The TC Compass is a small light rifle and with reduced recoil loads might work but kids love AR's and adjustable stocks work great as they grow. Our Bison 6.8 is a tack driver and hardly kicks at all.
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Old 05-03-2019, 03:18 PM   #27
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buy him a Thompass compass 6.5 creedmoor. They will shoot a quarter size group at 100 Yards and less recoil and super super accurate. Can buy them for $179 bucks after rebate. They have a trigger kit for like 25 bucks you can buy and it makes the trigger sooooo much better!!

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buy him a Thompass compass 6.5 creedmoor. They will shoot a quarter size group at 100 Yards and less recoil and super super accurate. Can buy them for $179 bucks after rebate. They have a trigger kit for like 25 bucks you can buy and it makes the trigger sooooo much better!!

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Old 05-03-2019, 04:26 PM   #29
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Yeah 308 is pretty big for a 7 year old. The TC Compass is a small light rifle and with reduced recoil loads might work but kids love AR's and adjustable stocks work great as they grow. Our Bison 6.8 is a tack driver and hardly kicks at all.
I am very fond of the 6.8 SPC-II caliber - mine is a PSA. I thought long and hard about the 6.5 vs. the 6.8, and decided if I was going to make shots (routinely) out to 200-300 yards, I'd probably stay with my .308. However, the 6.8 is a fine caliber and the rifle fits me well.

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Nothing wrong with 308 and managed recoil
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260 (6.5 Creedmoor) & 7-08 would be worth a look too.

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.243 and use 100 grain loads. That caliber/load combination has taken everything in North America. Of course there are other good rounds, .260, .25/06, etc. I'd stay under .30 caliber for a younger hunter.
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Budget ?
For the money the tc compass is a great rifle. We have 2 and they both shoot less than 1” groups at 100. Definitely want to buy the mcarbo trigger spring kit for it though.

Like others have said the ar platform can be great for kids to grow into with the adjustable stocks.
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I was shooting a .243 at 6 years old, and still love to carry one! Its a great whitetail caliber.
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Old 05-03-2019, 11:01 PM   #36
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I have a tc compass 6.5 and love it, my 9yr old shoots it regularly.



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Old 05-04-2019, 09:16 AM   #37
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Just my .02 and experience with youngsters and deer rifles.

My little nephew hunted with me for a couple trips using our 257 roberts. He was 10 years old. The next year, he wanted to shoot my 308 and did so very well. (Tikka T3) shot a doe at 239 yards. Kid is a better shot than i am.

For Christmas last year, his dad got him a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 CM with a nikon 4-12x42. Its easier on him with lighter recoil than the 308 and itís just a deadly accurate rifle. He paid right at $450 for the gun/scope combo. Shot a 5Ēx6Ē plate at 150 off shooting sticks and flopped his first axis closer to 160 yards.
Personally, i would go with the Ruger American Predator just from my personal experience with it for a cheap rifle. If you are not stuck on 308 cartridge, look into the 7-08 or 6.5 cm, especially if its for a youngster.
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