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Old 12-02-2015, 11:40 AM   #1
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Default 257 Weatherby Scope Suggestions

What scope and size would you get? Would like to stay in the $500 or under but might consider more if needed.
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:07 PM   #2
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got mine topped with a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50 get one and you wont be disappointed.
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:12 PM   #3
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got mine topped with a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50 get one and you wont be disappointed.
What he said but a 4.5-14x44 might be more in the 500$ price range.

Thats what I started on my 257 with no complaints. Have a swarovski on it now
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:17 PM   #4
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Zeiss over Vortex? I'm kind of dumb when it comes to scopes..... I don't understand the diffrence between same brand $500 and $2500 when they both have the same power.
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:21 PM   #5
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Zeiss over Vortex? I'm kind of dumb when it comes to scopes..... I don't understand the diffrence between same brand $500 and $2500 when they both have the same power.

Absolutely Zeiss over Vortex.

If you have a lot of time read this.

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=122
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:34 PM   #6
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I have a Zeiss HD5 2-10x on my 257. Wish it was the 3-15x but 10x will still get you out there a good ways
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:56 PM   #7
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Absolutely Zeiss over Vortex.

If you have a lot of time read this.

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=122
Thanks for the link to that article. Lots of good points in there. It covers just about everything that can be thought of in terms scopes. I enjoyed the read
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Old 12-02-2015, 01:16 PM   #8
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$500 and under...Leupold VX-3 or catch a Zeiss Conquest HD5 on sale.
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Old 12-02-2015, 01:31 PM   #9
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ummmm
don't go cheap on scope I see many guys with these fancy rifles with cheap scopes...scope should be top notch imo
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Old 12-02-2015, 01:34 PM   #10
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Zeiss over Vortex? I'm kind of dumb when it comes to scopes..... I don't understand the diffrence between same brand $500 and $2500 when they both have the same power.
Vortex is garbage compared to the Zeiss. ImHO
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Old 12-02-2015, 02:00 PM   #11
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Old 12-02-2015, 02:03 PM   #12
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i had the Nikon 6-24x50 BDC on my 257 and i must say I its awesome...scope is @ 600 tho but worth it
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Old 12-02-2015, 02:22 PM   #13
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I have been looking at the Bushnell Elite 4500 4x16x40 with the DOA 600 reticle

http://www.cabelas.com/product/BUSHN...4192511&rid=20

http://bushnell.com/getmedia/f578c00...b.pdf?ext=.pdf

slides12-14 and 17 explain the field judging lines and hash marks in the reticle
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Old 12-03-2015, 09:42 AM   #14
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I've got a Silver Leupold VX-II 6x18x40 fine duplex. I like the combo. Looks nice together
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Old 12-03-2015, 02:11 PM   #15
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On mine I have a Simmons 6.5-20x50 that is a Midway exclusive scope. I really like it and it has had no problem holding my zero and it tracks very well. $109 and free shipping is a nice deal as well.
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Old 12-03-2015, 02:24 PM   #16
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Can't hit what you can't see, I cut cost on a rifle brand before I would a scope. Just my opinion.
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Old 12-03-2015, 02:26 PM   #17
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zeiss .check carter country's weekly sales ..usually have fairly good prices
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Old 12-03-2015, 02:26 PM   #18
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I've never heard a bad thing about Vortex until the day I bought one. Still waiting for it to come in the mail but what is the story? Are they bad or what. I honestly always had heard they were great. Now I'm hoping I'm not gonna regret it!

FYI- Vortex Viper 4-24-50mm and yes I will draw my own conclusion but still want to know of any horror stories! Lol

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Old 12-03-2015, 03:16 PM   #19
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Thanks this is all good information. If I up the price. Thoughts on Leupold vs Zeiss. What about between 42 vs 50mm. I'm only planning to shoot out to no more than 4-500 yards. If I go with 20 power how easy would it be to shoot out to 600 effectively?
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Old 12-03-2015, 03:29 PM   #20
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got mine topped with a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50 get one and you wont be disappointed.
This is exactly what I topped mine with. Liked it so much I bought another one to put on my 300 WBY Mag as well.
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Old 12-03-2015, 03:30 PM   #21
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This guy has a lot of useful information about long range shooting.

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Old 12-03-2015, 03:51 PM   #22
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I've never heard a bad thing about Vortex until the day I bought one. Still waiting for it to come in the mail but what is the story? Are they bad or what. I honestly always had heard they were great. Now I'm hoping I'm not gonna regret it!

FYI- Vortex Viper 4-24-50mm and yes I will draw my own conclusion but still want to know of any horror stories! Lol

There's plenty of Vortex discussion to choose from on here. Do a search.
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Old 12-03-2015, 04:02 PM   #23
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Thanks this is all good information. If I up the price. Thoughts on Leupold vs Zeiss. What about between 42 vs 50mm. I'm only planning to shoot out to no more than 4-500 yards. If I go with 20 power how easy would it be to shoot out to 600 effectively?

I'm my experience here's how Leupold & Zeiss stack up:

3) Zeiss Conquest

2) Leupold VX-3

1) Zeiss HD5

Now that's only comparing glass. When you start talking features and available options Leupold wins hands down.

As to 42mm vs 50mm, divide the objective diameter by the magnification and keep the ratio at a 4 or higher. For example:

50mm/20X = 2.5

42mm/20X = 2.1

So for low light the 50mm is the better choice for higher magnification. To determine max usable magnification divide the objective diameter by 4 to see what the max magnification you can effectively use in low light.

50mm/4 = 12.5X

42mm/4 = 10.5X

Hope this helps.

Btw IMO you can NEVER go wrong going with better glass if you can afford it. I always recommend buying the best glass you can afford. Bells & whistles like Bullet drop reticles, exposed dials, first focal plane all sounds cool but the average hunter has no use for it. So I would sacrifice all of that for better glass. All the other stuff does you no good if you can't see your target.
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Old 12-03-2015, 04:24 PM   #24
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I have a 3.5-14x50 leupold on mine.
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Old 12-03-2015, 05:28 PM   #25
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I'm my experience here's how Leupold & Zeiss stack up:

3) Zeiss Conquest

2) Leupold VX-3

1) Zeiss HD5

Now that's only comparing glass. When you start talking features and available options Leupold wins hands down.

As to 42mm vs 50mm, divide the objective diameter by the magnification and keep the ratio at a 4 or higher. For example:

50mm/20X = 2.5

42mm/20X = 2.1

So for low light the 50mm is the better choice for higher magnification. To determine max usable magnification divide the objective diameter by 4 to see what the max magnification you can effectively use in low light.

50mm/4 = 12.5X

42mm/4 = 10.5X

Hope this helps.

Btw IMO you can NEVER go wrong going with better glass if you can afford it. I always recommend buying the best glass you can afford. Bells & whistles like Bullet drop reticles, exposed dials, first focal plane all sounds cool but the average hunter has no use for it. So I would sacrifice all of that for better glass. All the other stuff does you no good if you can't see your target.


Thanks. That's great info. Exactly what I was looking for. I get so lost reading the books and articles (stereo instructions). I'll see what I can find and post a pick when I get it built.

Thanks everyone.
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Old 12-03-2015, 08:36 PM   #26
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got mine topped with a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50 get one and you wont be disappointed.
THIS! Got the same glass on mine.

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Old 12-03-2015, 09:05 PM   #27
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I just put a zeiss hd5 5-25x50 with the rapid z8 reticle on my 7 mag and I love it. Crystal clear, tracks accurately and did I mention Crystal clear. I hunted with it for the first time this past weekend and I was very impressed. 600 yards with that scope would be a walk in the park. But it's a little over double of what your budget is. This is my first higher end scope and I see and understand why people always say not to skimp on good glass. Now I just got to figure out which model I want to put on my 6.8spc ar. Still debating between a hd5 3-15x50 or a trijicon 2.5-10x56. I've always liked the idea of the trijicon for my ar.
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Old 12-03-2015, 09:30 PM   #28
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Thanks this is all good information. If I up the price. Thoughts on Leupold vs Zeiss. What about between 42 vs 50mm. I'm only planning to shoot out to no more than 4-500 yards. If I go with 20 power how easy would it be to shoot out to 600 effectively?
50mm gives you more light. Normally, Zeiss would be better glass, but the Zeiss in your price range is no better than the Leupold. You don't need 20 power to shoot 600 yards. I've shot up to 450 yards with a 3-9 Leupold V-II fine duplex. You can get one in 50mm for under $500. You'll need to shoot the same round every time and learn the holdover you need. Hope this helps.
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Old 12-03-2015, 09:39 PM   #29
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Do some review research...you will be pleasantly surprised!

Snagged a Sightron for a 22-250 BDL 700
And snagged a Vortex for a 223 AR 15 Rock River bull barrel varminter in 20"


A Sightron SII 4.5-14X50mm scope with EXACTRACK - MSRP $499.00




or


A Vortex Diamondback HP 4-16x 42mm Side Focus for $329.00

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