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Old 05-08-2019, 02:06 PM   #1
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...p-tax-n1003396

They really have lost their freaking minds! This is insane. They're spending endless time and resources to take down Trump.

I'm ready to fight back. Just wish I knew how.
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It's just the State tax returns..But they will have most of the same info.

But the hypocrisy is amazing.

"Donald Trump has broken 40 years of political tradition by not releasing his tax returns," Democratic state Sen. Brad Hoylman, who sponsored the legislation, said in a statement. "Now, his administration is precipitating a constitutional crisis by shielding the president from congressional oversight over those returns. Our system of checks and balances is failing. New York has a special role and responsibility to step into the breach."

Yet they shielded Obama from showing a simple birth certificate LOL

I read this crap and think the end has got to be near.
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They really have lost their freaking minds! This is insane. They're spending endless time and resources to take down Trump.

I'm ready to fight back. Just wish I knew how.


Fine. Then let's demand every single one of our representatives release theirs. Let's make it policy that anyone elected to public office has to disclose all personal financial information.
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I'd wager anything they flip flop on this once a Dem gets in office

""I look forward to seeing the bill pass both houses, and reach the Governor’s desk for a signature," he added. "We must ensure that Congress can’t be blocked in their attempts to hold even the highest elected officials in the land accountable to the American people.""

And as Clay just said also... I want to see exactly how all of them get so rich AFTER they get in office.
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I get that they are changing the law, but wouldnt it still be illegal (per the underlined)? I mean how are old returns for a private citizen pertinent to a legitimate legislative purpose?

Seems like the Dems are hyper focused on winning that 2016 election
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Never hold up at the Supreme Court level.
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Fine. Then let's demand every single one of our representatives release theirs. Let's make it policy that anyone elected to public office has to disclose all personal financial information.
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They really have lost their freaking minds! This is insane. They're spending endless time and resources to take down Trump.

I'm ready to fight back. Just wish I knew how.


VOTE is how we fight back. Vote against every single democrat you can.
Right now we just sit back and laugh and watch this shiiit show
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Trump said ....no
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VOTE is how we fight back. Vote against every single democrat you can.
Right now we just sit back and laugh and watch this shiiit show
Which will only work as long as we do something about our border. If not they willl just keep importing voters.
That said, they will not run the risk of losing again. Lie cheat steal!
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Trump said ....no
This would be a hill worth dying on. At some point someone just has to tell these children "no", regardless of the consequence.
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Never hold up at the Supreme Court level.
It really won't matter. Eventually some Trump hater will leak them. You know their is at least one person with access to them trying to figure out how to do it without being caught. We have a few guys here that would wipe their own taint with cactus for the opportunity.

If/when it happens, an example needs to be made of whoever does it.
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I'll be honest. I'd like to see his taxes. It is kind of important to see what ties our politicians have to what business partners. I think all of congress' should be made public too.
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Which will only work as long as we do something about our border. If not they willl just keep importing voters.
That said, they will not run the risk of losing again. Lie cheat steal!
This is what worries me. People are so freaking beyond believably stupid it makes my head spin. You know Dems will come up with something soon and idiots are going to believe it.

Anyone who can't tell they are not doing their jobs anymore because all they do is try to find stuff against Trump...is stupid.

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It really won't matter. Eventually some Trump hater will leak them. You know their is at least one person with access to them trying to figure out how to do it without being caught. We have a few guys here that would wipe their own taint with cactus for the opportunity.

If/when it happens, an example needs to be made of whoever does it.
Yep. It's going to become a huge deal sooner or later. Absolutely no way possible to run that much business without having something "bad" in the tax reports. They will twist ALL kinds of crap and it will become a *****show
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This is what worries me. People are so freaking beyond believably stupid it makes my head spin. You know Dems will come up with something soon and idiots are going to believe it.

Anyone who can't tell they are not doing their jobs anymore because all they do is try to find stuff against Trump...is stupid.



Yep. It's going to become a huge deal sooner or later. Absolutely no way possible to run that much business without having something "bad" in the tax reports. They will twist ALL kinds of crap and it will become a *****show

NY Times already published leaked old returns from some businesses of his yesterday. People that don't understand anything about what businesses do are freaking out about it.
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I'll be honest. I'd like to see his taxes. It is kind of important to see what ties our politicians have to what business partners. I think all of congress' should be made public too.
Tax returns will show exactly none of that. All you will see is a bunch of dividend income, Sch C, and Sch E income etc from companies youíve probably never heard of, and they will be privately held companies so you wonít be able to get any information about them. Best case scenario, you can get the companieís tax ID number and figure out where they are registered. Thatís about it
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Fine. Then let's demand every single one of our representatives release theirs. Let's make it policy that anyone elected to public office has to disclose all personal financial information.
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My thoughts, he ain't taking a check, we have no rights to view his returns. But, I may be off.

.....and God Bless America.
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Tax returns will show exactly none of that. All you will see is a bunch of dividend income, Sch C, and Sch E income etc from companies youíve probably never heard of, and they will be privately held companies so you wonít be able to get any information about them. Best case scenario, you can get the companieís tax ID number and figure out where they are registered. Thatís about it
OK, throw it our there. I know several former democratic presidents that aren't very charitable people, based on their returns. Let's see everyone's returns. If you don't want your financial info public, don't become a public figure.
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I would imagine they show he does not pay any fed taxes & has many oversea dealings, you know, like most democrats.
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Fine. Then let's demand every single one of our representatives release theirs. Let's make it policy that anyone elected to public office has to disclose all personal financial information.
They also must be required to save and make public every single email and any other form of communication regardless of whom it is to. Once they are in office all correspondence is govt property and should be available under freedom of information act. NO PRIVATE EMAIL! PERIOD!
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LOL You guys are dreaming. They will do absolutely nothing EXCEPT look at Trumps taxes.
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I would imagine they show he does not pay any fed taxes & has many oversea dealings, you know, like most democrats.



A billionaire with good CPAs and dealings over seas? Say it ainít so!!


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If he has nothing to hide or worry about then why not release them, and for that matter why not release the full report as well. That would be the best way to shut the dems attempts up.
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If he has nothing to hide or worry about then why not release them, and for that matter why not release the full report as well. That would be the best way to shut the dems attempts up.
Because it's a bull**** fishing expedition. They didn't like Mueller's report conclusion so they keep digging. Kinda like how when they are losing the vote count during an election and they keep "finding" uncounted votes after the polls close until, like clockwork, they have enough to win.
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If he has nothing to hide or worry about then why not release them, and for that matter why not release the full report as well. That would be the best way to shut the dems attempts up.


Because it ainít nobodyís business. And that goes for all Presidents, not just Trump. Why is his personal or business income anybodyís business?

As to the report Iím sure thereís classified information in there.




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Because it ainít nobodyís business. And that goes for all Presidents, not just Trump. Why is his personal or business income anybodyís business?

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Yup. If he released it they would be moaning about how he released classified info. Telling them to go jump off a cliff is the only move.


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Because it's a bull**** fishing expedition. They didn't like Mueller's report conclusion so they keep digging. Kinda like how when they are losing the vote count during an election and they keep "finding" uncounted votes after the polls close until, like clockwork, they have enough to win.
On the money!
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If he has nothing to hide or worry about then why not release them, and for that matter why not release the full report as well. That would be the best way to shut the dems attempts up.
First you explain why Obama wouldn't release his B.C.

I really can't see any harm that could be twisted out of a B.C.


As low as you are you have to admit (or at least know) that Dems will twist and make bad even the best tax return.
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If he has nothing to hide or worry about then why not release them, and for that matter why not release the full report as well. That would be the best way to shut the dems attempts up.
Wow.. There's absolutely no way a person could be this dumb. If anyone on earth thinks that Trump could release his taxes and the report..AND nothing was "bad" in them that the Dems would stop attacking..well they are far far x1,000 past hope.
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First you explain why Obama wouldn't release his B.C.

I really can't see any harm that could be twisted out of a B.C.


As low as you are you have to admit (or at least know) that Dems will twist and make bad even the best tax return.
Be here now dude, Obama is not the president anymore. Clinton, thank god, lost the election. The first reaction is to always bring up past politicians. Thats intelligent.
Did his birth certificate get released?
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Let's see yours......
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Have read that only about 10% of it is classified, but obviously I do not know that as fact. Only a few do.
Just seems that "the most transparent president ever" would actually be transparent if nothing to hide.
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Let's see yours......
such a quick deflect
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You got something to hide?
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Well I just got a bill from IRS that I owe $2k from 2015 but nothing to hide.
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Does no one remember his return that was leaked? How proud that guy on MSNBC was to expose him live, on national television. Then, the utter look of devastation on his face when he realized Trump paid 30 million in taxes that year.
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Income tax evasion....nice.
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Does no one remember his return that was leaked? How proud that guy on MSNBC was to expose him live, on national television. Then, the utter look of devastation on his face when he realized Trump paid 30 million in taxes that year.
Ya....ol' Rachael Mancow went soft.....
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Income tax evasion....nice.
That's quite a leap there.
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That's quite a leap there.
FEDS are knocking on my door right now, I shall pour another cup of coffee
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Just tell them you're Al Sharpton.
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That's quite a leap there.
Thats outta the democrats playbook
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Have read that only about 10% of it is classified, but obviously I do not know that as fact. Only a few do.
Just seems that "the most transparent president ever" would actually be transparent if nothing to hide.
It is against the LAW to release grand jury testimony.

I was not a Trump fan when I voted for him but the Dems have worked so hard to remove him that I will never ever the rest of my life vote for a democrat for any office.

The little county I live in has a lot of old school democrats. They are just normal people but at this point I would not vote for a democrat for JP or road commissioner or any thing else.

Every time I see one of those poppas son of a guns slobbering about getting Trump out, All I hear is they want to cancel out my vote and do not care that I voted for Trump. They believe they should have the power to pick who runs the country.

I don't care who he has talked to on the phone (Russia or who ever) I dont care about his taxes, at this point I only care that they are trying to remove the man I voted for.
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It is against the LAW to release grand jury testimony.

I was not a Trump fan when I voted for him but the Dems have worked so hard to remove him that I will never ever the rest of my life vote for a democrat for any office.

The little county I live in has a lot of old school democrats. They are just normal people but at this point I would not vote for a democrat for JP or road commissioner or any thing else.

Every time I see one of those poppas son of a guns slobbering about getting Trump out, All I hear is they want to cancel out my vote and do not care that I voted for Trump. They believe they should have the power to pick who runs the country.

I don't care who he has talked to on the phone (Russia or who ever) I dont care about his taxes, at this point I only care that they are trying to remove the man I voted for.
Only info gathered through the grand jury testimony is sealed, which does not make up the entire investigation. I get the classified info should remain sealed but I don't see any harm in releasing the rest, even Trump was for releasing it at one point.

I agree 100% with the rest of your post, it is crazy what dems are doing, except the tax thing. I only find it interesting that he and Ford are the only ones in last 40 years not to release them. I do not buy the audit excuse either.
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Only info gathered through the grand jury testimony is sealed, which does not make up the entire investigation. I get the classified info should remain sealed but I don't see any harm in releasing the rest, even Trump was for releasing it at one point.

I agree 100% with the rest of your post, it is crazy what dems are doing, except the tax thing. I only find it interesting that he and Ford are the only ones in last 40 years not to release them. I do not buy the audit excuse either.
If President Trump needs to release his tax returns every elected official as well as family members should be required to as well.

Doing this will expose how our elected officials are selling their votes to lobbyist and other countries. You know, that whole thing with Biden's son getting money from China and Ukrane.
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Only info gathered through the grand jury testimony is sealed, which does not make up the entire investigation. I get the classified info should remain sealed but I don't see any harm in releasing the rest, even Trump was for releasing it at one point.
From what I understand, not only are the dems wanting the grand jury stuff, they are wanting all the notes, witness interviews and every document Muller has on his investigation.
Trump has released everything he can that pertains to what is in the report.
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Be here now dude, Obama is not the president anymore. Clinton, thank god, lost the election. The first reaction is to always bring up past politicians. Thats intelligent.
Did his birth certificate get released?
LOL - You liberals are all the same. You want to use the stupidest things against Trump but just can't stand it when anything remotely similar is used against you.


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Well I just got a bill from IRS that I owe $2k from 2015 but nothing to hide.
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Income tax evasion....nice.
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That's quite a leap there.
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FEDS are knocking on my door right now, I shall pour another cup of coffee
If Trump forgot to pay 2% of his income in taxes from 4 years ago I would wager anything Dems would be running in the streets setting cars on fire! The FEDS would be knocking on his door.

Does anyone not think for one second Dems would not be screaming tax evasion?
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