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Old 04-23-2017, 05:53 PM   #1
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Default Question about braided line

I'm pretty new to braided lines, and I have a question about them. You know how with monofilament, the actual breaking strength is usually more than the rated strength (except for IFGA test lines, of course). So that "20 pound" Trilene will actually break at like 25 pounds or so, maybe even more.

My question is: is this also true with braided lines?
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:13 PM   #2
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Pretty much. Unless it's an IGFA rated line
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:24 PM   #3
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Idk, but braided line is strong! No stretch when you set the hook


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Braided spectra line usually breaks well above the line rating. Dacron will break at the rated strength. I don't think they make IGFA spectra.
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Yeah, I'm not interested in IFGA rated lines, I just wanted to know if braided lines broke at above their "labeled" strength like mono does. I'm looking at Sufix 832, for example, putting 20 lb. on my spinning reel to cast around the beach and jetties.
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:08 PM   #6
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I don't know, nor have I seen, any real numbers, But when you have a heavy hook and get it caught on the jetty you wish it would break at a lower weight. More than once I have cut lines that had I been throwing mono I could have broken off.
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I don't know, nor have I seen, any real numbers, But when you have a heavy hook and get it caught on the jetty you wish it would break at a lower weight. More than once I have cut lines that had I been throwing mono I could have broken off.
Well, I'll have a mono leader.....
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Yeah, I'm not interested in IFGA rated lines, I just wanted to know if braided lines broke at above their "labeled" strength like mono does. I'm looking at Sufix 832, for example, putting 20 lb. on my spinning reel to cast around the beach and jetties.
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Old 04-23-2017, 10:52 PM   #9
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Something to think about. Mono can get a little nick and it will reduce the strength by over half. A nick in braided line and it is only weakened by the number of strands cut.
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:44 AM   #10
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Just my observation is more. I've straightened more hooks with braided than I've broken off
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:06 AM   #11
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Well, I'll have a mono leader.....


Use a 2'-3' fluorocarbon leader, and 30# braid.

I just used the suffix braid for the first time, and I don't think it's for me. Could be the one I have, but it seems stiff compared to Fins Windtamer.
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:30 AM   #12
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Here's everything you want to know. Also, 99% of all braided lines are made by Honeywell, to different specs for different sellers. Doesn't matter if it's suffix or Jerry Brown, they all just put their name on and resale it.

http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/4linetesting.htm

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Old 04-24-2017, 07:06 AM   #13
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Yeah, I'm not interested in IFGA rated lines, I just wanted to know if braided lines broke at above their "labeled" strength like mono does. I'm looking at Sufix 832, for example, putting 20 lb. on my spinning reel to cast around the beach and jetties.
That's the setup I have used for years on my spin tackle. 20# Sufix 832 with 3-4 feet of 20# Seaguar Flouro leader. Never had a problem. Landed plenty of 80-100 tarpon on 20# braid. Make sure it is spooled tight. I don't fish the jetties where abrasion would be a big problem though. I always used 50# braid to get the big reds off the jetties in Louisiana.
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How do you guys attach the braid to the mono line?
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:18 AM   #15
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How do you guys attach the braid to the mono line?
Double uni knot
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:23 AM   #16
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Have been using 20# braid(Power Pro) with a 20# fluorocarbon leader attached by triple surgeon knot on my light spinning tackle for quite some time now. Works for me and has been put to the test. D
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How do you guys attach the braid to the mono line?
FG knot. Strongest, smallest, and easiest to tie imo.
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FG knot. Strongest, smallest, and easiest to tie imo.
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Bob Sands Knot.
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Old 04-24-2017, 08:29 AM   #20
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Use a 2'-3' fluorocarbon leader, and 30# braid.

I just used the suffix braid for the first time, and I don't think it's for me. Could be the one I have, but it seems stiff compared to Fins Windtamer.
This is what I use most of the time and I use Fins on all my reels.
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:11 PM   #21
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Yeah, I know about putting it on tightly, and being careful not to cast or retrieve it with slack in it.

None of you guys mention having problems with wind knots. It's my understanding that these can be almost eliminated by:

1. Using a bigger line, like 20-30 lb.
2. Wind it on the reel tightly, and be sure it's under tension when you're reeling in after a cast.
3. (assuming you're using spinning gear) flip the bail manually, so it won't throw a loop into the line

Again, I've never used braided; this is just what I've read often.
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Yeah, I know about putting it on tightly, and being careful not to cast or retrieve it with slack in it.

None of you guys mention having problems with wind knots. It's my understanding that these can be almost eliminated by:

1. Using a bigger line, like 20-30 lb.
2. Wind it on the reel tightly, and be sure it's under tension when you're reeling in after a cast.
3. (assuming you're using spinning gear) flip the bail manually, so it won't throw a loop into the line

Again, I've never used braided; this is just what I've read often.
Man, I have have been fishing braid for over 10 yrs, salt and fresh, 1000's of hrs of fishing, sometimes in brutal winds, and i have no clue what a wind knot is. Never had one that I know of. I fish 15-40lb braid on various setups, all the same to me. My line never gets tangled, ties knots in itself or anything else. My guess, it's something that happens to people who are not very good at casting.
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:40 PM   #23
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Braided line is strong. Only downside is having to cut it when you hang up.
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Braided line is strong. Only downside is having to cut it when you hang up.
I always have a shock leader of mono for the final couple feet. To my knowledge I've never broken the braid, always the leader. The lake I fish is full of stumps and concrete rip rap, so it is a very rare trip that I don't have to break off at least once or twice.
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Yeah, I know about putting it on tightly, and being careful not to cast or retrieve it with slack in it.

None of you guys mention having problems with wind knots. It's my understanding that these can be almost eliminated by:

1. Using a bigger line, like 20-30 lb.
2. Wind it on the reel tightly, and be sure it's under tension when you're reeling in after a cast.
3. (assuming you're using spinning gear) flip the bail manually, so it won't throw a loop into the line

Again, I've never used braided; this is just what I've read often.


Wind knots happen with spinning gear when the line gets slack in it during the retrieve. It should never be an issue with a bait caster.
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:40 PM   #26
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You'll break your rod before you break braid
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:48 PM   #27
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Try sufix performance braid. I like it over 832 using 30# test. I all count it casted a little further on multiple set-ups I use for saltwater fishing.
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Old 04-24-2017, 10:40 PM   #28
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You'll break your rod before you break braid
I've broke 50lb power pro more than once on hooksets. Went to 65lb and no more problem.

20lb braid breaks pretty easy with a heavy shock put to it. Straight pull, yeah it is strong, give it a good jerk and it doesn't stretch so it breaks.
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