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Old 02-09-2020, 07:04 PM   #1001
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The Heisman odds is a good starting point but a lot of that is based on program and coaching success. The list shows potential of guys but they have proven nothing yet.

Texas probably wonít win enough games to have Sam in the conversation. Heís gong to finish at Texas with a ton of records when itís all said and done. I think itís silly not to include in the list of the top college QBs for 2020.
You are correct. He's a 4 year starter, thats good and bad but certainly doesn't scream elite. When is the last time Texas had a 4 year starter at QB? That should be a red flag right there........
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Dang Rattler already #3. QBU.
Did he play last year? Serious question, I don't know if he did or not. Why is he so high? Just talent potential and program?
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Did he play last year? Serious question, I don't know if he did or not. Why is he so high? Just talent potential and program?
Arm talent, athleticism, program

Not saying right or wrong but thats the answer to your question. Could be a complete headcase, etc. Thats why its called gambling!
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Yes. Meaningless snaps. I guess potential and Riley.
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You are correct. He's a 4 year starter, thats good and bad but certainly doesn't scream elite. When is the last time Texas had a 4 year starter at QB? That should be a red flag right there........


College football, not the NFL. I donít give a rats *** about the NFL and how a players game translates to the NFL.

If you want to base how you think about a college football player based on his NFL potential than have at it, but thats a silly way to judge a college player in my opinion. Iím not calling Sam elite but think heís in the conversation of the best college QBs in 2020.

Hell he would be a much better player if he played on some of those rosters.
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:23 PM   #1007
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College football, not the NFL. I donít give a rats *** about the NFL and how a players game translates to the NFL.

If you want to base how you think about a college football player based on his NFL potential than have at it, but thats a silly way to judge a college player in my opinion. Iím not calling Sam elite but think heís in the conversation of the best college QBs in 2020.

Hell he would be a much better player if he played on some of those rosters.
Disagree. He has the same abilities regardless. Every program would be happy to have Sam but he's not a game changer. I think that is the basis of this argument to begin with. If he was elite, he would be a determining factor in the national conversation. I think his relevance is more tied to the situation in Austin than his abilities. Just my opinion. We agree on most things, but I don't see Sam as some innovative player
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Disagree. He has the same abilities regardless.....


So better players around you donít elevate ones ability?
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:37 PM   #1010
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Saw this on Twitter. A&M did great and tu did OK, big drop off after that.


FINAL 2020 TX Recruiting Class Rankings after Signing-Day:

#1 TEXAS A&M (6)
#2 TEXAS (9)
#3 TCU (28)
#4 TEXAS TECH (49)
#5 BAYLOR (54)
#6 NORTH TEXAS (67)
#7 HOUSTON (78)
#8 SMU (82)
#9 RICE (93)
#10 TEXAS STATE (98)
#11 UTSA (104)
#12 UTEP (131)
#13 SFA (141)
#14 SHSU (182)

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Old 02-09-2020, 07:42 PM   #1011
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Saw this on Twitter. A&M did great and tu did OK, big drop off after that.


FINAL 2020 TX Recruiting Class Rankings after Signing-Day:

#1 TEXAS A&M (6)
#2 TEXAS (9)
#3 TCU (28)
#4 TEXAS TECH (49)
#5 BAYLOR (54)
#6 NORTH TEXAS (67)
#7 HOUSTON (78)
#8 SMU (82)
#9 RICE (93)
#10 TEXAS STATE (98)
#11 UTSA (104)
#12 UTEP (131)
#13 SFA (141)
#14 SHSU (182)


Wow another list thatís already been put into order to just put them In order again... i guess this way it makes a$m #1


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So better players around you donít elevate ones ability?
No. They may make your numbers better though. Would Sam have more arm strength if he played at Clemson or LSU?
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:50 PM   #1013
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No. They may make your numbers better though. Would Sam have more arm strength if he played at Clemson or LSU?


Perception he did with better players making plays. Happens every single year.
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Perception he did with better players making plays. Happens every single year.
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That doesn't change your tools.
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Perception and ability are not even close to the same thing IMO.
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That doesn't change your tools.


Having a strong arm doesnít make you a great college QB. College football history is littered with dudes thatís didnít have elite traits but still managed to be elite college QBs.
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No. They may make your numbers better though. Would Sam have more arm strength if he played at Clemson or LSU?
So are you saying having better players around you donít inflate numbers?
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So are you saying having better players around you donít inflate numbers?
Did you read the statement? It specifically said having better players around you increases your numbers but not your ability.
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Having a strong arm doesnít make you a great college QB. College football history is littered with dudes thatís didnít have elite traits but still managed to be elite college QBs.
It's probably a short list(unless we are talking about option QB's or something). Tim Tebow would be the first one that comes to mind in recent history.
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So you are saying the Sugar Bowl is a **** bowl?


He lost 4 games that year. The bowl game meant nothing. In fact, so much bowl momentum they lost 5 games this past year. You tell me horn fan??


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Who are your elite QBs going into 2020?


Trask. Sunshine (Lawrence). Fields. Rattler (because of Lincoln)
Thatís without thinking and I havenít thought west of the Mississippi.

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Trask. Sunshine (Lawrence). Fields. Rattler (because of Lincoln)
Thatís without thinking and I havenít thought west of the Mississippi.

Heck add Brock Purdy to the list.

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If Trask / Purdy are on your elite list, no reason Sam shouldnít be.

I get Rattler given his coach and hype, but Iíd at least like to see him play a season before he gets elite status. Thatís just my personal opinion.
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If Trask / Purdy are on your elite list, no reason Sam shouldn’t be.

I get Rattler given his coach and hype, but I’d at least like to see him play a season before he gets elite status. That’s just my personal opinion.
I agree with this.

None of those guys are elite at this current time.

I meant other than Fields and Lawrence

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Old 02-09-2020, 09:00 PM   #1025
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Not sure how you can say a Sugar Bowl victory doesn’t mean anything. You stated Sam hasn’t “one ****” to be exact. I would think a SB victory would be an admirable accomplishment. I completely agree Texas has sucked for a long time, too long matter of fact. How many QB’s have a Sugar Bowl “W”?
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Not sure how you can say a Sugar Bowl victory doesnít mean anything. You stated Sam hasnít ďone ****Ē to be exact. I would think a SB victory would be an admirable accomplishment. I completely agree Texas has sucked for a long time, too long matter of fact. How many QBís have a Sugar Bowl ďWĒ?


I would say exactly as many Sugar Bowls as there have been
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That would be the exact number
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If Trask / Purdy are on your elite list, no reason Sam shouldnít be.

I get Rattler given his coach and hype, but Iíd at least like to see him play a season before he gets elite status. Thatís just my personal opinion.


You make a point. I guess the fact of the matter is there are veryfew elite QBís. Lawrence and Fields are the only sure thing In my opinion. Sam is a cut below IMO. Mond below that.


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You make a point. I guess the fact of the matter is there are veryfew elite QBís. Lawrence and Fields are the only sure thing In my opinion. Sam is a cut below IMO. Mond below that.


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I agree.
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He lost 4 games that year. The bowl game meant nothing. In fact, so much bowl momentum they lost 5 games this past year. You tell me horn fan??


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Oh snap.
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Thereís chirping tuas younger brother will be entering the portal


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Oklahoma? Then Rattler can transfer to Bama.
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LSU?


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I guess the legal process has played out for Joshua Moore. He's back on the roster as a redshirt sophomore.
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He must pull his info from the sock.
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He must pull his info from the sock.
I posted regular season games. The playoff and NY6 bowls will be at the top regardless of who is in them.

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Huh...so bowl games donít matter?

BS... the season runs longer than the regular season.
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Who the heck is Rattler?
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Zero U's next great qb. I know this because the Sooners in my office talk non stop about how much of a *****s he is.

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I would say exactly as many Sugar Bowls as there have been


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Huh...so bowl games donít matter?

BS... the season runs longer than the regular season.
Of course they do.

You missed the point.

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