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Old 09-30-2018, 03:25 PM   #1
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:27 PM   #2
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:27 PM   #3
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Looks like a cottonmouth


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Old 09-30-2018, 03:29 PM   #4
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Looks like a regular water snake to me. I am not sure their official name but the ones that aren’t cotton mouths I just call a water snake...but I don’t ever ask for them to let me look into their mouths to be certain LOL!
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:29 PM   #5
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Looks like a Cottonmouth aka Water Moxkin as we say in Texas lol Think I can see "pits" hard to tell in that light as there is a banded water snake that is patterned very similar

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Old 09-30-2018, 03:32 PM   #6
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Can't see the domino pattern so say water snake.
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:38 PM   #7
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Looks like a Cottonmouth aka Water Moxkin as we say in Texas lol Think I can see "pits" hard to tell in that light as there is a banded water snake that is patterned very similar

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See Pits ? It don't have a head ! I say water snake, don't have a stump tail. But really don't matter now he's dead.
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:38 PM   #8
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Water Moccasin for sure.
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:41 PM   #9
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See Pits ? It don't have a head ! I say water snake, don't have a stump tail. But really don't matter now he's dead.
It has a head...barely but its head is still on its body. Here is where Im seeing the pits, or what looks like pits in the lighting and enlargeing the picture

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Old 09-30-2018, 03:43 PM   #10
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he`s a good snake now !
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:43 PM   #11
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It has a head...barely but its head is still on its body. Here is where Im seeing the pits, or what looks like pits in the lighting and enlargeing the picture

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Yes, and keeled scales. Iím infested with them.
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Old 09-30-2018, 04:18 PM   #12
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He was very aggressive with out being instigated.

Looks like most think itís a cottonmouth, google pics really are inconclusive.


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Old 09-30-2018, 04:19 PM   #13
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10 minutes ago

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Old 09-30-2018, 04:39 PM   #14
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Another for Mok-sakin!

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Old 09-30-2018, 04:43 PM   #15
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Yep, dead cottonmouth!
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Old 09-30-2018, 05:24 PM   #16
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CM for sure
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Old 09-30-2018, 05:24 PM   #17
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From the picture that looks a lot like a little sidewinder. Maybe it's just the glare making it look like there's horns on its head but it looks like it.
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Old 09-30-2018, 05:39 PM   #18
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Looks like a regular water snake to me. I am not sure their official name but the ones that arenít cotton mouths I just call a water snake...but I donít ever ask for them to let me look into their mouths to be certain LOL!
100 % cottonmouth.
The bands have jagged edges. Water skate doesnít
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Old 09-30-2018, 06:33 PM   #19
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Cottonmouth!!!!!
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Old 09-30-2018, 06:39 PM   #20
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100% cottonmouth. Those that say water snake need to study up so they don’t end up in the hospital.
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Old 09-30-2018, 06:44 PM   #21
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I say cotton mouth.

This is a cotton mouth and you can see the comparison with the one the OP posted. The head/mouth (what we can see of it) and belly pattern are what I used to ID.

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Old 09-30-2018, 06:45 PM   #22
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Not sure why some of you think water snake?
That is in no way a water snake.
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Old 09-30-2018, 06:49 PM   #23
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Banded water snake, lots of them here in the marsh
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Old 09-30-2018, 07:03 PM   #24
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I think I recall that if you roll it over and check the belly scales between its butt an the tip of the tail, venomous snakes have a single row, where non-venomous have 2 rows of scales aft of the vent.

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Old 09-30-2018, 07:06 PM   #25
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100% Cottonmouth
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Old 09-30-2018, 07:12 PM   #26
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I still say water snake. Someone please go to the link provided and look at the eastern cottonmouths and the come back and point out to us the lack of domino pattern on OP pic. Clear as day to me
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Old 09-30-2018, 07:20 PM   #27
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Deff a cottonmouth
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Old 09-30-2018, 07:21 PM   #28
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Well that settles that...


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Old 09-30-2018, 09:56 PM   #29
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Water moccasin


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Old 09-30-2018, 09:57 PM   #30
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It has a head...barely but its head is still on its body. Here is where Im seeing the pits, or what looks like pits in the lighting and enlargeing the picture

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Iím on my phone but the pupils donít look round either.


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Old 09-30-2018, 10:00 PM   #31
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Cotton mouth, he gone
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Old 09-30-2018, 10:03 PM   #32
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Sometimes your guilty by association!


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Old 09-30-2018, 10:10 PM   #33
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See if it has fangs and settle it once and for all.
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Old 09-30-2018, 11:03 PM   #34
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I think I recall that if you roll it over and check the belly scales between its butt an the tip of the tail, venomous snakes have a single row, where non-venomous have 2 rows of scales aft of the vent.

http://www.jbsrattles.com/www.jbsrat...ification.html
I said I wasnít going to ask them to let me look in their mouth to tell for certain so I dang sure donít plan on giving them a rectal exam to find out if they are venemous!
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Old 09-30-2018, 11:14 PM   #35
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There are some snakes you should be able to run over with a mower,look at a 5" piece and know what it belonged to. That just happens to be one of those snakes.
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Old 10-01-2018, 06:37 AM   #36
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Hard to tell. I'll weigh in on the conversation with juvenile water moccasin.
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Old 10-01-2018, 06:51 AM   #37
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Cottonmouth. Some are solid black that are short and thick and then there these types that can get longer. I’ve seen this type get to 3-4 feet.
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:04 AM   #38
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Another vote for cottonmouth.
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:36 AM   #39
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100% cotton mouth. The tail is short and stumpy. If you want to play with fire because of a specific pattern good luck to you. I've seen them from jet black to having the pattern.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:10 AM   #40
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100% cotton mouth. The tail is short and stumpy. If you want to play with fire because of a specific pattern good luck to you. I've seen them from jet black to having the pattern.
With you 100% stumptail /cotton mouth
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:25 AM   #41
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From the picture that looks a lot like a little sidewinder. Maybe it's just the glare making it look like there's horns on its head but it looks like it.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:29 AM   #42
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Cottonmouth fo sho
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:34 AM   #43
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:39 AM   #44
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Good job to the original poster, whatever it is, would have gotten the 12ga response from me as well.
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Old 10-01-2018, 11:50 AM   #45
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OP's pic doesn't show a "stump tail"-- this is a stump tail. However, the zig-zag margins on the saddles are evident.

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Old 10-01-2018, 01:32 PM   #46
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My buddy killed this snake Saturday in Arkansas(just south of Ouachita NF). He was walking to the stand around 3pm and he said he never saw the snake until it struck at him. Luckily it was to short on the strike and missed him. He said he jumped back and shot it, and hurried on to his stand. He didn't take a picture of it at that moment. He texted me and said I just shot a snake and probably ruined his hunt. He didn't know for sure but thought it might have been a rat snake.

He sat in the same stand Sunday morning and went back and found the snake after the hunt and took the picture. When I saw the picture I thought it looked like a cottonmouth but wasn't positive. When I said that to him he said he remembered seeing white when the snake struck at him. He didn't examine the snakes mouth or his *** when he took the picture because he was still under the impression it was a rat snake.
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Old 10-01-2018, 02:43 PM   #47
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No doubt that is a moccasin. The body shape/markings are enough to identify it, plus the eye has an elongated pupil and there is indeed a pit right in front of the eye you can see. Also likely a juvenile as the body coloration is indicative of a young snake... To me, one of the prettiest snakes there is when they're young...

Your buddy dun gooood!
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Old 10-01-2018, 02:59 PM   #48
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Mature cottonmouth from Rockyís yard
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:17 PM   #50
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Cute little baby cottonmouth from Rockyís yard
Like I said, my place is infested with cottonmouths.
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